Woodward's Source Never Testified Before Grand Jury (A lawyer in the case said)

Reuters via CNN Netscape ^ | November 18, 2005

[new yorker 77]

Headline of Article: Fitzgerald sees new grand jury proceedings

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A lawyer in the case said Woodward's source had not previously testified before a grand jury in the leak case.

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[Lancey Howard]

Fitz also had "informal chats" with Judith Miller, among others.

Fitzgerald's "investigation" should have taken about three phone calls to find out that Plame was not "covert", as defined in the Intelligence Identities act, and therefore there could have been no crime committed in the "leaking" of her name. Case closed.

But two years and millions of taxpayer-dollars later Fitz finally nails somebody for tripping himself up in his testimony about a crime that was never committed. Congratulations, Fitz, you scumbag. You GOT somebody and destroyed a man's career.

And now, here we go again - - Fitzgerald obviously loves the power and the celebrity, he loves commanding a big staff of peon lawyers, and he doesn't want his gravy train to come to an end, ever. It's a disgrace.

[Lancey Howard]

Good post. Thanks for that info.

[Mike Darancette]

Lawyers in the case said the investigation into who leaked the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame, which has reached into the highest levels of the White House, could be moving into a new phase that could result in charges against other top administration officials.

A Fitzmas prayer.

[new yorker 77]

could

[Mike Darancette]

New York Times' Nick Kristoff
------------------------------ "Cooperated" with Fitzgerald:

We know Kristoff gave up Wilson but did Kristoff give up his CIA source?

[traderrob6]

actually Libby is a "former" official.

[t2buckeye]

I don't trust Woodward either...BUT remember. He DIDN"t go to Fitz on his own...he was "outed" as the recipient of info by the source himself. Therefore.. I have to believe that if he had info that implicated a higher administration official, he would have written story after story about it and gotten the same kind of glory as Watergate.

[new yorker 77]

That's a typo.
Cooperated should be below the

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[new yorker 77]

Someone should ask Woodward if he is referring to 'Libby' as 'former'.

He may still consider him 'current' in status.

I think the idea that this person may have 'never' testified leads to the need for a new Grand Jury.

A former official would more likely have been out of the loop a lot earlier.

'former' official plus 'never testified' narrows the field of possibilities.

[norwaypinesavage]

Woodward:"On Monday, November 14, I testified under oath in a sworn deposition to Special Counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald for more than two hours about small portions of interviews I conducted with three current or former Bush administration officials.

It's interesting that Woodward chose to use the words "small portions...of interviews". This implies that he was choosing what to tell and not tell to Fitzgerald. I wonder what he chose not to tell???

[new yorker 77]

Probably any parts that involved the specific issue of the non-agent Flame.

[babydoll22]

Good point.

[Marine_Uncle]

" So much for a supposedly complete investigation! Fitzgerald is a dumkopf!"
Heheh. Haven't heard that one in a long time. If Novak taint whisling dixie, it appears the final outcome is going to be a bit of a surprise to many. Like Enchante made notion a month and a half ago during the posting frenzies, it could end up being Powell or Wilkenson. But we only continue to guess up a storm.
I do hope Libby shall fair well in this as he was a victim in all sense of the word. It is hard to think his superiors would have an arrangement with him, to take the rap in a clever arranged slip of memory or planted lie, so to speak to have the investigation just end. Then again who knows, what goes on in the bowels of the beltway circus.

[Common Tator]

Regarding Fitzgeralds use of the words "FirstKnown Source" as wiggle room in describing Libby. I don'think it sands up.

Click here for the 'tator take on Fitmas only knew of Libby as a media source

[popdonnelly]

The bizarre thing about this investigation is that the question of who leaked Plame's identity has become irrelevant. No one is being prosecuted for leaking a CIA agent's identity. It's become an investigation of who, if anybody, is lying to Fitzgerald.

[BARLF]

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/cia/demwalker12604ltr.pdf

Applied pressure
Chuckie, Teddy, Waxman ,maybe others to AAG Comey, GAO.

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/cia/hr499roi12104.pdf

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/cia/schumdion101503ltr.html

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/cia/schumdion101503ltr.html

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/cia/schumash100103ltr.pdf


http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/cia/schumuel72403ltr.html

[Bogeygolfer]

The latest is that Woodward went to the source first which led to the source going to the prosecutor. Woodward is essentially saying that he's the good guy and got the source to go to Fitz....media interpreting it as the source running to the prosecutor before Woodward. That's Woodwards new defense and the MSM's new spin.

[Laverne]

Could the former official be Paul O'Neil? I don't recall when he left.

[Bahbah]

Fitzgerald obviously loves the power and the celebrity, he loves commanding a big staff of peon lawyers, and he doesn't want his gravy train to come to an end, ever.

My thought exactly. I've seen him several times with photographers and cameramen following his every move, and said to myself, he is really lapping this up. He likes it. That is not a good thing.

[p23185]

This story has become so convoluted, that MAYBE .001 of the American population can follow it (or care to)...if that many.

All that counts to the people that care, is that the DOJ and the GJ can get to Cheney and Bush and take them out. No matter what the details or how convoluted all the public wants to hear is "We got them!!!" Watergate II is on the way.