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Secret government UFO file unveiled
Space via Msnbc ^ | 11-16-05 | Leonard David

Posted on 11/17/2005 9:09:49 AM PST by emiller

There is one question that persistently circles the community of Unidentified Flying Object true-believers: If the government has nothing to hide, UFO fans often ask, then why is it keeping so many UFO records under lock and key?

“Well, it turns out that the government does have something to hide,

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; artbell; mufon; ufo
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To: Williams
Exactly!


21 posted on 11/17/2005 10:07:37 AM PST by GMMAC (paraphrasing Parrish: "damned Liberals, I hate those bastards!")
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Ping


22 posted on 11/17/2005 10:10:14 AM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: Explorer89
Was that in 1989?

Actually, I believe it very well could have been. As I recall, it would have been a New Moon Saturday night. After sundown there were heavy low clouds creating a very eerie low ceiling of just a hundred feet or so, which might have even dipped down to create the occasional fog. I think I was taking an astronomy class at El Camino college at the time, and a guy who was in my class had given up and left because he thought that the clouds were there to stay. Not more than 30 minutes after he left the cloud deck dropped below the parking lot level (keeping the rest of SoCal and it's light pollution below the clouds) which made for one of the best nights I've ever had there as far as darkness goes.

The reason I specifically remember the clouds was that when my school buddy left he told me that when I see him in class to not tell him if it got good right after he left. Of course, not only did it get good, but there was an incredible UFO that everyone saw as plain as day, which of course I had to tell him about. :) I remember first spotting it and asking my other friend what that nebulosity was. At first I thought it was The Beehive, just based on that being the closest possible naked eye diffuse object near to where the thing appeared. But it got brighter and grew, and appeared to almost grow a half ring, which in a strange way almost reminded me of a gibbous Saturn.

It kept growing and eventually became very diffuse. I can't really remember what characteristics it took on as it faded.

Sound familliar?

23 posted on 11/17/2005 10:10:23 AM PST by MarineBrat (When it rains, New Orleans makes its own gravy.)
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To: rhombus

The real question: Did Saddam have UFO's?


24 posted on 11/17/2005 10:19:47 AM PST by 50sDad (Star Trek Tri-D Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: 50sDad
The real question: Did Saddam have UFO's?

A great question. He shot at "Identified" Flying Objects (IFO's) over Iraq for 8 years before we put an end to it.

25 posted on 11/17/2005 10:25:01 AM PST by rhombus
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To: emiller
They're ours.

Click the pic.

26 posted on 11/17/2005 10:27:06 AM PST by uglybiker (nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh BAT MAN!!)
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To: plsvn
"Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and refracted the light from Venus..."
27 posted on 11/17/2005 10:31:35 AM PST by 50sDad (Star Trek Tri-D Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: MarineBrat

I saw, back in the 90's, a spectacular green ball of light flash across the sky, moving West to East that I later found out was a meterorite entering the atmosphere. My event didn't flash or make abrupt right turns, but I am told some of them do. The rationalist in me says there absolutely must be other life in the universe, but that given, it is odd that there isn't more debris or evidence on hand here on Earth. I can easily belive in the Blue Berets (having survived the lies of the BubbaYears) but it is hard to believe that a government that can't make a profit on Amtrack could sucessfully maintain complete and utter secrecy for fifty years on something that huge.


28 posted on 11/17/2005 10:39:12 AM PST by 50sDad (Star Trek Tri-D Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: Red Badger

LOL, I love that scene in the picture, have posted it myself a few times.


29 posted on 11/17/2005 10:40:35 AM PST by benjaminjjones
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To: ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; albertp; andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...

Pinging the list!

*OPI pings. (* of possible interest)


30 posted on 11/17/2005 2:01:49 PM PST by Las Vegas Dave ("Liberals out of power are comical-Liberals in power are dangerous!"-ElRushbo quote.)
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To: johnny7

There was an Area 51 special on TLC or something a week ago.

It was pretty interesting. They tracked some sort of aircraft (obviously military experimental) moving at incredible speeds one night.


31 posted on 11/17/2005 4:13:48 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: nnn0jeh

alien from outer space ping


32 posted on 11/17/2005 4:20:50 PM PST by kalee
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To: rwfromkansas

ANY night sightings of UFO's are dubious at best.


33 posted on 11/17/2005 4:58:01 PM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: rwfromkansas
They tracked some sort of aircraft (obviously military experimental) moving at incredible speeds one night.

A few years ago when living at the beach across the bay from Diablo Nuclear Power Plant here in CA I saw something interesting. It was just dusk and a bright light floated slowly over the mountains from east to west, then seemed to hover approximately over Diablo (it could have been miles distant but that's where it appeared to be).

I thought it was a small plane that had changed course to head directly toward my house, giving the illusion of hovering in one place. Then it started moving slowly back toward the east, accelerating at an unbelievable speed. I didn't hear a sound and I've never seen anything appear to move that fast in the sky. Edwards AFB was roughly in the easterly/southeasterly direction it was headed and Vandenberg AFB lay to the southwest (we watched many rocket launches from there).

A UFO? Absolutely! An alien space ship? Nope.

34 posted on 11/17/2005 5:24:25 PM PST by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: emiller

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35 posted on 11/17/2005 5:26:40 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: 50sDad

"...but it is hard to believe that a government that can't make a profit on Amtrack could sucessfully maintain complete and utter secrecy for fifty years on something that huge."

LOL! I'm with you, Dad. People give government waaaay too much credit for these types of things, but for some, life is uninteresting if there isn't some sort of Boogey Man to rail against. ;)

That said, don't get my own Dad started on the "faked" Lunar Landing. *Rolleyes*


36 posted on 11/17/2005 5:40:12 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: emiller

Most of the UFO stories of the past were planted by the Air Force.


37 posted on 11/17/2005 5:42:48 PM PST by Fledermaus (Don't Ever Make Our Constituents Realize Any Truth)
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To: ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; albertp; andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...

UFO Ping! Let me know if you want on or off this list!


38 posted on 11/17/2005 5:43:53 PM PST by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: Fledermaus
Most of the UFO stories of the past were planted by the Air Force.

Is that an opinion or are you part of USAF intelligence?

39 posted on 11/17/2005 5:53:50 PM PST by Dark Skies ("Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me...")
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To: Las Vegas Dave; KevinDavis

The difficulty I have with the premise that the government has nothing to hide is the fact that I have seen the blacked out Freedom of Information responses from the government. If there is little to hide, why so many blanked out pages? Perhaps these "blacked out" areas are from sightings of military aircraft. Certainly a possibility. But there are many reports from former military officers and enlisted men that seem fairly incredulous. Just my two cents.


40 posted on 11/17/2005 5:55:36 PM PST by Lawgvr1955 (Never draw to an inside straight.)
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