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Chertoff to Hannity: Removing 10~11M ILLEGALS too expensive and impractical
FoxNews Channel: Hannity & Colmes ^ | November 14, 2005 | Transcript

Posted on 11/15/2005 6:51:13 AM PST by DTogo

...HANNITY: Because you had made a controversial statement, and you seem to be backing off of it now, and it was that people that are here illegally, that they all ought to be sent back.

I'm paraphrasing.

And it seems like now you've sort of backed off that position a little bit, because there are million that we estimate that are in this country illegally.

Why wouldn't we send them back?

CHERTOFF: ...I also recognize we've got, according to some estimates, 10 to 11 million illegals already in this country working. And the cost of identifying all of those people and sending them back would be stupendous. It would be billions and billions of dollars...

HANNITY: Why — in that sense, aren't you really rewarding those that didn't respect our laws and sovereignty? In other words, OK, you're saying, you came into this country illegally.

Now that we've identified you, we're going to let you even stay longer and make money, and then you can go back in three to six years.

Why don't we say, no, you're here illegally, you didn't respect our laws, you ought to go home? Why don't we just say that?

CHERTOFF: Well, Sean, you know, it's really an issue of practicality.

I mean, as a practical matter, we've got to identify these people and pull them out of the shadows.

Now, this is not an amnesty. This is not — the president's proposal is not a path to citizenship. It's clearly temporary, and it clearly envisions people who would have to commit to go back....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; border; buildawalljorge; bush; bushtreason; chertoff; deportation; frobl; guestworker; hannitycolmes; homelandsecurity; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; liesandmorelies; presidentbush
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To: DTogo
CHERTOFF: ...I also recognize we've got, according to some estimates, 10 to 11 million illegals already in this country working. And the cost of identifying all of those people and sending them back would be stupendous. It would be billions and billions of dollars...

I never thought I'd say these words, but please "raise my taxes". Or lower them or do whatever it takes.

The United States must not be a country where criminals are welcomed and talented law-abiding potential immigrants are told to put their names on endless lists.

Chertoff- it's time to get real. Get lawless interlopers out of my home. That's the least government can do.

21 posted on 11/15/2005 7:14:59 AM PST by GOPJ (Frenchmen should ask immigrants "Do you want to be Frenchmen?" not, "Will you work cheap?")
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To: DTogo

Who does this guy thinking he is kidding.

It is much more expensive to keep them here.


22 posted on 11/15/2005 7:20:36 AM PST by freekitty
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To: NormsRevenge

One step forward,
Two steps back


23 posted on 11/15/2005 7:20:55 AM PST by txroadhawg ("Stuck on stupid? I invented stupid! " Al Gore)
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To: Paloma_55
I've got a better idea: eliminate the border and annex Mexico.

There are already so many illegals here in Calif that when you cross the border into Baja, it doesn't even seem that different any more. Especially between TJ and Rosarito - it's a mini-Orange County in the making. (The housing tracts & retail sections look identical to Irvine.) With so many Americans buying up property, the demographics look just like OC: rich whites/Asians living in nice houses and Hispanic laborers providing the muscle.

Mexico is what is referred to in finance as an 'under-valued asset'. At a purely intrinsic level, it is worth way more than Canada. As it stands, they have a screwed up legal/property/capital system that seriously restricts their growth opportunties. With US legal systems, it would create the world's largest boom market.

The temporary downside would be millions of Dem voters; however, this would only be a short-term issue before capitalism converted their previously indolent country into a mirror of the US. Forget Aztlan; we'll be seeing the descendent of illegals agitating for annexation in a few generation's time.

24 posted on 11/15/2005 7:21:50 AM PST by lemura
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To: DoughtyOne
Chertoff to Hannity: Removing 10~11M ILLEGALS too expensive and impractical

DoughtyOne to Chertoff, capturing and prosecuting criminals is too costly, lets empty the prisons and just try to get along.

Removing Chertoff: Inexpensive and practical.

25 posted on 11/15/2005 7:25:07 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: DTogo
Ashcroft, Chertoff, ...next!
27 posted on 11/15/2005 7:26:45 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: TomGuy
[Nothing is going to be done about it until a group of illegals massacre a few thousand Americans.]

I think you left out the word "elite" between thousand and Americans.

Ordinary Americans are being murdered by these folks daily and our children are regularly being raped by these good-hearted illegals. But the elites live in their gated-communities and get all the benefits of cheap labor but don't suffer the costs.

One wonders if we would be having a war on terrorism if the terrorists had just blown up a bunch of ordinary Americans in a shopping mall instead of killing a bunch of elites in the World Trade Center? I doubt the Chamber of Commerce, who apparently is the Administration's puppet master, would have thought a war on terror for the sake of us ordinary people was worth the cost.

28 posted on 11/15/2005 7:28:39 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: Stingy Dog
"That 10-11 million is way understimated as I've seen figures between 20-25 million turd hole invaders. Deport them! Deport them NOW!"

No problem!I had no idea that the solution to this complex problem is so simple! The government could do it this afternoon if they were serious, huh? Do you have a list of names and locations of these 20 - 25 million confirmed illegals that you could provide to the I.N.S.?

It's all so simple...just identify, locate and verify the immigration status of 20 - 25 million suspected illegals and boot 'em out today! And of course there would be no negative effect on the economy if approximately 10% of the workforce, illegal or not, were deported "now".Yup, sounds like a win-win situation to me. (sarcasm off)

30 posted on 11/15/2005 7:29:51 AM PST by Hoof Hearted
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To: who knows what evil?
IMO, your post bears repeating:

When you consider the number of Americans that have been murdered by illegal aliens; when you considered the number of Americans killed in auto accidents involving illegal aliens; we have probably ALREADY LOST a "few thousand American lives". But since they didn't die in as spectacular a fashion as those on September 11, 2001; this little fact slides under the radar.

31 posted on 11/15/2005 7:31:01 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: DTogo

As if supporting via food stamps, education, FREE HEALTH CARE TO THOSE WHO FREQUENT HOSPITALS AND/OR RECEIVE MEDICAID isn't too expensive.


32 posted on 11/15/2005 7:32:05 AM PST by sandbar
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To: DumpsterDiver

Excellent!

Course he's just implementing policy...


33 posted on 11/15/2005 7:32:43 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: lemura

Best advice ever, make the Mexican states, states in the US, abolish the direct election of senators, and we'll be in business.

Either that or asset forfeiture for employers who employ illegal aliens.


34 posted on 11/15/2005 7:38:09 AM PST by tomswiftjr (Remember Pearl Harbor)
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To: DTogo

The USG doesn't have to send most of them back if they crack down on employers. The illegals will go back by themselves if they don't have jobs.


35 posted on 11/15/2005 7:38:52 AM PST by kabar
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To: DTogo
We don't have to identify all 11 (22?) million of these illegal aliens, round them up and transport them back. Instead, make life so difficult on them (and their employers and their welfare state enablers) they no longer want to either come here or stay here. These people have two legs. Let them use them, not taxpayer-paid airline tickets. Most of them will take themselves back when it's no longer worth it to stay here. The ones which are left we can round up and deport. They're pretty easy to identify.

What is wrong with this utterly clueless and feckless Administration, anyhow? Don't they realize the American people want this problem FIXED, and now? We're not interested in their lame excuses!

36 posted on 11/15/2005 7:39:03 AM PST by Gritty ("The real suicide bomb is 'multiculturalism' "- Mark Steyn)
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To: DTogo

How many HUNDREDS of billions have we spent on those projects? Chertoff is a liar. He speaks with a forked tongue. They have no intention of removing those people. Also, six months ago he said that they haven't acted because they didn't have a plan. Last night he said they have the resources now to MAKE A PLAN! He is such a looser.


37 posted on 11/15/2005 7:40:53 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (Islamism = Islamic Supremacism & = racist ideology, not political.)
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To: DTogo
And the cost of identifying all of those people and sending them back would be stupendous.

Dear Secretary Chertoff:

I see you take illegal immigration as serious as you took disaster planning prior to Katrina.

With a few simple changes, you will not need to deport millions of illegals. Simply change things so that they become willing to deport themselves:

Wall off the border.

Crack down on businesses that hire illegals.

Prohibit the children of illegals from attending schools that receive federal funding, or else the schools lose the funding.

Prohibit federal funds for being used for illegals except for emergency medical care.

And take all the money we'd save and buy buses. During hurricane season, we can use them to evacuate people from places that haven't prepared. Off-season, offer free rides for illegals to go back to Mexico.

38 posted on 11/15/2005 7:42:22 AM PST by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: CBart95
We are not buying their crap. This is indeed the Achilles heel for Bush and the Republicans. It will be just as fatal as it was for Achilles.

The Whig party was unable to straddle both sides of the slavery issue and ended up disappearing and being replaced by the Republicans. I do not believe that the issues of illegal immigration and increasing socialism can be straddled. The Republicans will either have to come down forcefully on the side opposite the Democrats, or a third party will rise and take their place. I fear that such a change will result in years of Democratic control of the White House and Congress. On the other hand, I fear that without that change we will face an even longer period of control of the government by the current batch of crypto-Democrats calling themselves Republicans.

39 posted on 11/15/2005 7:43:08 AM PST by KarlInOhio (We were promised someone in the Scalia/Thomas mold. Let's keep it going with future nominees.)
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To: DTogo; gubamyster; HiJinx


U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.


40 posted on 11/15/2005 7:43:23 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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