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Mark Steyn: Bicultural Europe is doomed
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 11/15/05 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 11/14/2005 2:13:32 PM PST by Pokey78

Three years ago -December 2002 - I was asked to take part in a symposium on Europe and began with the observation: "I find it easier to be optimistic about the futures of Iraq and Pakistan than, say, Holland or Denmark."

At the time, this was taken as confirmation of my descent into insanity. I can't see why. Compare, for example, the Iraqi and the European constitutions: which would you say reflected a shrewder grasp of the realities on the ground?

Or take last week's attacks in Jordan by a quartet of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's finest suicide bombers. The day after the carnage, Jordanians took to the streets in their thousands to shout "Death to Zarqawi!" and "Burn in hell, Zarqawi!" King Abdullah denounced terrorism as "sick" and called for a "global fight" against it. "These people are insane," he said of the husband-and-wife couple dispatched to blow up a wedding reception.

For purposes of comparison, consider the Madrid bombing from March last year. The day after that, Spaniards also took to the streets, for their feebly tasteful vigil. Instead of righteous anger, they were "united in sorrow" - i.e. enervated in passivity. Instead of wishing death on the perpetrators, the preferred slogan was "Basta!" - "Enough!" - which was directed less at the killers than at Aznar and Bush. Instead of a leader who calls for a "global fight", they elected a government pledged to withdraw from any meaningful role in the global fight.

My point in that symposium was a simple one: whatever their problems, most Islamic countries have the advantage of beginning any evolution into free states from the starting point of relative societal cohesion. By contrast, most European nations face the trickier task of trying to hold on to their freedom at a time of increasing societal incoherence.

True, America and Australia grew the institutions of their democracy with relatively homogeneous populations, and then evolved into successful "multicultural" societies. But that's not what's happening in Europe right now. If you want to know what a multicultural society looks like, read the names of America's dead on September 11: Arestegui, Bolourchi, Carstanjen, Droz, Elseth, Foti, Gronlund, Hannafin, Iskyan, Kuge, Laychak, Mojica, Nguyen, Ong, Pappalardo, Quigley, Retic, Shuyin, Tarrou, Vamsikrishna, Warchola, Yuguang, Zarba. Black, white, Hispanic, Arab, Indian, Chinese - in a word, American.

Whether or not one believes in "celebrating diversity", that's a lot of diversity to celebrate. But the Continent isn't multicultural so much as bicultural. There are ageing native populations, and young Muslim populations, and that's it: "two solitudes", as they say in my beloved Quebec. If there's three, four or more cultures, you can all hold hands and sing We are the World. But if there's just two - you and the other - that's generally more fractious. Bicultural societies are among the least stable in the world, especially once it's no longer quite clear who is the majority and who is the minority - a situation that much of Europe is fast approaching, as you can see by visiting any French, Austrian, Belgian or Dutch maternity ward.

Take Fiji - not a comparison France would be flattered by, though until 1987 the Fijians enjoyed a century of peaceful stable constitutional evolution the French were never able to muster. At any rate, Fiji comprises native Fijians and ethnic Indians brought in as indentured workers by the British. If memory serves, 46.2 per cent are Fijians and 48.6 per cent are Indo-Fijians; 50-50, give or take, with no intermarrying. In 1987, the first Indian-majority government came to power. A month later, Col Sitiveni Rabuka staged the first of his two coups, resulting in the Queen's removal as head of state and Fiji being expelled from the Commonwealth.

Is it that difficult to sketch a similar situation for France? Even in relatively peaceful bicultural societies, politics becomes tribal: loyalists vs nationalists in Northern Ireland, separatists vs federalists in Quebec. Picture a French election circa 2020, 2025: the Islamic Republican Coalition wins the most seats in the National Assembly. The Chiraquiste crowd give a fatalistic shrug and Mr de Villepin starts including crowd-pleasing suras from the Koran at his poetry recitals. But would Mr Le Pen or (by then) his daughter take it so well? Or would the temptation to be France's Col Rabuka prove too much?

And the Fijian scenario - a succession of bloodless coups - is the optimistic one. After all, the differences between Fijian natives and Indians are as nothing compared with those between the French and les beurs. I love the way those naysayers predicting doom and gloom in Baghdad scoff that Iraq's a totally artificial entity and that, without some Saddamite strongman, Kurds, Sunnis and Shias can't co-exist in the same state. Oh, really? If Iraq's an entirely artificial entity, what do you call a state split between gay drugged-up red-light whatever's-your-bag Dutchmen and anti-gay anti-whoring anti-everything-you-dig Muslims? If Kurdistan doesn't belong in Iraq, does Pornostan belong in the Islamic Republic of Holland?

In a democratic age, you can't buck demography - except through civil war. The Yugoslavs figured that out. In the 30 years before the meltdown, Bosnian Serbs had declined from 43 per cent to 31 per cent of the population, while Bosnian Muslims had increased from 26 per cent to 44 per cent.

So Europe's present biculturalism makes disaster a certainty. One way to avoid it would be to go genuinely multicultural, to broaden the Continent's sources of immigration beyond the Muslim world. But a talented ambitious Chinese or Indian or Chilean has zero reason to emigrate to France, unless he is consumed by a perverse fantasy of living in a segregated society that artificially constrains his economic opportunities yet imposes confiscatory taxation on him in order to support an ancien regime of indolent geriatrics.

France faces tough choices and, unlike Baghdad, in Paris you can't even talk about them honestly. As Jean-Claude Dassier, director-general of the French news station LCI, told a broadcasters' conference in Amsterdam, he has been playing down the riots on the following grounds: "Politics in France is heading to the Right and I don't want Right-wing politicians back in second or even first place because we showed burning cars on television."

Oh, well. You can understand why the Quai d'Orsay is relaxed about Iran becoming the second Muslim nuclear power. As things stand, France is on course to be the third. You heard it here first. You probably won't hear it on Mr Dassier's station at all.


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To: Dark Skies

LOL! I meant you read #18!


81 posted on 11/14/2005 6:15:42 PM PST by Fred Nerks (The media isn't mainstream it's the ENEMY! The enemy enemy ENEMEDIA!)
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To: DB
I really don't think it's going to take 20 years.

Perhaps sooner than that, we should look, according to Victor David Hansen, for the Man on a Horse option.

VDH: I do, because the history, whether we look at the unworkable Weimar to Hitler, or whether we look at the Spanish revolution to Franco, or whatever radical swing we see in Europe, there's always this...because they are so far left, and when the left proves unworkable or chaotic, then the answer is always a man on a horse. So we have to watch this very carefully, because there will come out of the shadows a French politician to say look, I'll put a lid on all this.


82 posted on 11/14/2005 6:39:20 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Pokey78
The kicker in this typically-brilliant St Mark piece is the last paragraph. We ignore it at our peril:

"Oh, well. You can understand why the Quai d'Orsay is relaxed about Iran becoming the second Muslim nuclear power. As things stand, France is on course to be the third. You heard it here first. You probably won't hear it on Mr Dassier's station at all."
83 posted on 11/14/2005 6:44:59 PM PST by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: Plutarch

Watch out! According to some people on this site, Franco is a "good guy"!


84 posted on 11/14/2005 6:45:36 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Alberta independentists to Canada (read: Ontario and Quebec): One hundred years is long enough)
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To: MattinNJ

"France faces tough choices and, unlike Baghdad, in Paris you can't even talk about them honestly. As Jean-Claude Dassier, director-general of the French news station LCI, told a broadcasters' conference in Amsterdam, he has been playing down the riots on the following grounds: "Politics in France is heading to the Right and I don't want Right-wing politicians back in second or even first place because we showed burning cars on television.""
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BINGO.

This is EXACTLY what is going on in the now heavily-self-censored OldMedia "journalism" world right now.

The FRAUDcasters are going to kill the whole world, and with it their own freedom of expression, if the New Media doesn't save the world from their suicidal liberal "peaceful world" fantasies.


85 posted on 11/14/2005 7:04:36 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Pokey78
Excellent as always.

True, America and Australia grew the institutions of their democracy with relatively homogeneous populations, and then evolved into successful "multicultural" societies. But that's not what's happening in Europe right now. If you want to know what a multicultural society looks like, read the names of America's dead on September 11: Arestegui, Bolourchi, Carstanjen, Droz, Elseth, Foti, Gronlund, Hannafin, Iskyan, Kuge, Laychak, Mojica, Nguyen, Ong, Pappalardo, Quigley, Retic, Shuyin, Tarrou, Vamsikrishna, Warchola, Yuguang, Zarba. Black, white, Hispanic, Arab, Indian, Chinese - in a word, American.

Whether or not one believes in "celebrating diversity", that's a lot of diversity to celebrate. But the Continent isn't multicultural so much as bicultural. There are aging native populations, and young Muslim populations, and that's it: "two solitudes", as they say in my beloved Quebec. If there's three, four or more cultures, you can all hold hands and sing We are the World. But if there's just two - you and the other - that's generally more fractious. Bicultural societies are among the least stable in the world, especially once it's no longer quite clear who is the majority and who is the minority - a situation that much of Europe is fast approaching, as you can see by visiting any French, Austrian, Belgian or Dutch maternity ward.

Worth repeating.

86 posted on 11/14/2005 7:45:38 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Pokey78

bttt


87 posted on 11/14/2005 7:52:21 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Pokey78

Thanks for the ping.


88 posted on 11/14/2005 8:08:20 PM PST by GOPJ (Frenchmen should ask immigrants "Do you want to be Frenchmen?" not, "Will you work cheap?")
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To: Pokey78

Add me to the ping list please!


89 posted on 11/14/2005 9:47:28 PM PST by Dont Mention the War (Pirro '06 - Save New York!)
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To: Pokey78
Compare, for example, the Iraqi and the European constitutions: which would you say reflected a shrewder grasp of the realities on the ground?

Oh, now, that's nasty. Wouldn't be nasty if it weren't true.

This one's a keeper.

90 posted on 11/14/2005 10:05:07 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Pokey78
"Politics in France is heading to the Right and I don't want Right-wing politicians back in second or even first place because we showed burning cars on television."

I'm sure the common Frenchman is glad that they have the media elites to look after them to make sure that they don't vote for undesirables. /sarcasm.

91 posted on 11/14/2005 10:11:15 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Pokey78
imposes confiscatory taxation on him in order to support an ancien regime of indolent geriatrics.

Priceless.

92 posted on 11/14/2005 10:37:25 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: NZerFromHK
Watch out! According to some people on this site, Franco is a "good guy"!

Count me among them. Franco’s fascists defeated the Communists. I’d have much rather have lived in a dictatorship under Franco than under any Communist country. Franco’s Spain ultimately peacefully transitioned to a Constitutional Monarchy.

Which brings up the Left. They claim to be anti-Military, but have always lionized the Abraham Lincoln Brigade, which fought in Spain for the Communists. If the military is on the side of Communists, the liberals that that military is just great.

Abraham Lincoln brigade veteran at Peace March, NYC, 1969

93 posted on 11/14/2005 10:41:46 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: chatham
France deserves to be Doomed.

The consequences of the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre continue to be felt. Payback is a b!tch.

94 posted on 11/15/2005 1:38:28 AM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: Pokey78
There's not much reason for any one to immigrate to Europe: one's reception as a permanent outsider, the high taxes, stifling regulations and high cost of living. Europe's culture today is the greatest impediment to a European revival. As if Europe matters today to the greater scheme of things.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

95 posted on 11/15/2005 1:42:17 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Pokey78

Thanks for the ping, Pokey!


96 posted on 11/15/2005 5:18:07 AM PST by alwaysconservative ("No, only bad witches are ugly." Glenda, the good witch, to Dorothy)
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To: Pokey78

BTTT


97 posted on 11/15/2005 5:25:52 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: riri

This is like a glass of fine wine. Steyn, you are among the best


99 posted on 11/15/2005 5:30:10 AM PST by riri
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To: Pokey78
But if there's just two - you and the other - that's generally more fractious. Bicultural societies are among the least stable in the world, especially once it's no longer quite clear who is the majority and who is the minority - a situation that much of Europe is fast approaching,

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Excellent article. One of his best. Scary, but should be required reading. Thanks for posting it.

100 posted on 11/15/2005 6:08:26 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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