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Saudi Teacher to be Flogged for "Saying the Jews Were Right"
Arutz 7 ^ | Nov 14, '05 | Staff

Posted on 11/14/2005 10:16:31 AM PST by Nachum

(IsraelNN.com) A secondary school teacher in Saudi Arabia was charged with "dubious ideology, mocking religion, saying the Jews were right, discussing the Gospel and preventing students from leaving class to wash for prayer," according to the Saudi newspaper Al-Madina.

The teacher, Mohammed Al-Harbi, was sentenced to 40 months in jail and 750 lashes for his "crimes". He was denounced by colleagues and students at his school.

The Saudi authorities and Arab newspapers are presenting it as a case of the teacher "mocking religion" and receiving the appropriate penalty.


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To: Gator101
I'd go tell Amnesty International but I think they are too busy screaming about panties on terrorist's heads right now.
Really. What's a little thing like 750 lashes when people had to wear actual panties on their actual heads?
21 posted on 11/14/2005 10:31:43 AM PST by samtheman
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To: traderrob6

Psychologically, it's worse. It means you have to anticipate being flogged 50 or 60 times on a dozen or more separate occasions.


22 posted on 11/14/2005 10:31:52 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Sthitch

Yeah they could have put dirty panties on his head.


23 posted on 11/14/2005 10:32:12 AM PST by Shaun_MD (Here I abandon peace and desecrate law. Farewell to treaties. Fortune it is you I follow)
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To: traderrob6
750 lashes???

gonna leave a mark...or two

24 posted on 11/14/2005 10:33:08 AM PST by bigbob (2)
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To: 57chevypreterist
Ah, Islam, the Religion of Love and Peace.

The religion that loves to leave a man's back in pieces.....

25 posted on 11/14/2005 10:33:56 AM PST by NRA1995 (When liberals speak I hear the Vonage music playing.....woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo....)
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To: Nachum

The tolerance in Saudi Arabia ranks right up there with (the former) Nazi Germany.


26 posted on 11/14/2005 10:34:15 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: Nachum
Hand-in-hand with the ENEMY:


27 posted on 11/14/2005 10:35:54 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Nachum

Savages.


28 posted on 11/14/2005 10:36:02 AM PST by veronica (What will "Ronnie" think? The question that obsesses the internut clowns...)
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To: Nachum

bump


29 posted on 11/14/2005 10:45:25 AM PST by plain talk
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To: NRA1995

Yeah, who are we to disrespect other cultures and push our Judeo-Christian values down the world's throat? How ARROGANT of us!


30 posted on 11/14/2005 10:48:26 AM PST by 57chevypreterist (Remember, your orthodoxy was once heresy.)
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To: traderrob6

He'll be dead by the time they finish.


31 posted on 11/14/2005 10:54:35 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Nachum
The only "tolerance" in Islam is that which it demands from other religions!

In the long run, it's either them or us.

32 posted on 11/14/2005 10:54:50 AM PST by Gritty ("The more Islamists step on our toes, the more we waltz them gaily round the room" - Mark Steyn)
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To: samtheman
Really. What's a little thing like 750 lashes when people had to wear actual panties on their actual heads?

Yep. Not all women's panties are created equal...


33 posted on 11/14/2005 11:03:58 AM PST by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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34 posted on 11/14/2005 11:10:15 AM PST by SJackson (People have learned from Gaza that resistance succeeds, not smart negotiators., Hassem Darwish)
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To: river rat

You guys should ditch the Suads, we have lots of oil and few Jihadists.


35 posted on 11/14/2005 11:11:25 AM PST by Ashamed Canadian (America - please invade us now!!)
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To: Nachum
"... a case of the teacher "mocking religion"

I gag every time I hear militant Islam referred to as a "religion"....
It is nothing more than a murderous cult.

Semper Fi

36 posted on 11/14/2005 11:24:09 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
The Saudis also never forget a birthday.

The convivial atmosphere was underscored at lunch when the Saudis wheeled in a chocolate birthday cake for Ms. Rice, a day early, and sang "Happy Birthday."

No word on whether the flogged teacher joined in the convivial atmosphere.

37 posted on 11/14/2005 11:26:54 AM PST by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: Nachum

Freedom of thought is apparently not highly valued in Saudi Arabia.


38 posted on 11/14/2005 11:27:23 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: popdonnelly

Or in US foreign policy when Arabs are concerned.


39 posted on 11/14/2005 11:30:52 AM PST by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: Nachum
Teacher Charged With Mocking Religion Sentenced to Jail

From arabnews.com:

Teacher Charged With Mocking Religion Sentenced to Jail

Ebtihal Mubarak, Arab News

JEDDAH, 14 November 2005 — The controversial case of Muhammad Al-Harbi, a Saudi high school teacher accused of mocking religion, came to a surprising end on Saturday. Al-Harbi was sentenced to three years in prison and 750 lashes — 50 lashes per week for 15 weeks. The lashes are to be given in the public market in the town of Al-Bikeriya in Al-Qassim.

A number of 12th Grade students, along with some teachers from the same school, filed a lawsuit a year-and-a-half ago against Al-Harbi. He was accused of mocking Islam, favoring Jews and Christians, preventing students from performing ablutions. He was also charged with studying witchcraft. At the time, he was a chemistry teacher at Al-Fowailiq High School in the town of Ein Al-Juwa in Al-Qassim.

“This is a very cruel sentence,” Al-Harbi told Arab News. He explained over the phone that the students who filed the lawsuit had failed the monthly chemistry test. “They asked me to give them the exam again and when I refused, they went to the principal to complain but he upheld my decision,” he explained.

According to Al-Harbi, the students’ actions were triggered by some Islamic studies teachers who used the students’ anger at Al-Harbi and convinced them to file the lawsuit.

The reason for the Islamic studies teachers action has its roots five years ago when Al-Harbi joined the staff of Al-Fowailiq High School after graduating from King Saud University in Riyadh. Based on his academic record and extracurricular activities, the school principal appointed Al-Harbi as school activities organizer.

Deeply disturbed by the explosions at the Al-Hamra Compound in Riyadh in 2003, Al-Harbi felt it his duty as an educator to enlighten his students and warn them of terrorism and its consequences. He went to great lengths by talking to students, hanging anti-terrorism signs around the school and speaking against terrorism.

“The Ministry of Education has recently ordered all schools to lecture students on the dangers of extremism and terrorism in general, but I was a step ahead of their decision,” said Al-Harbi.

Apparently Al-Harbi’s actions and comments against terrorism upset a number of Islamic studies teachers known for their fundamentalist beliefs. After the Al-Hamra blast in Riyadh, Al-Harbi copied an article, “Cavemen Go to Hell” written by Saudi columnist Hammad Al-Salmi in Al-Jazirah newspaper, attacking terrorists and extremists. Al-Harbi posted the article on the school bulletin board but it was ripped off and torn to pieces.

The teachers, as one of the students’ fathers admitted to Al-Harbi, used to visit students in their homes, encouraging them to disobey Al-Harbi and calling him names. One of the Islamic studies teachers stopped Al-Harbi in a morning school assembly from speaking against Abdul Aziz Al-Muqrin, identified by the Saudi government as a terrorist and who was on the government’s list of wanted terrorists.

The teacher told Al-Harbi that Al-Muqrin was a Muslim and that no matter what he had done, no one should speak against him.

“They told the students that I studied under secular teachers and thus I’m not to be trusted in any subject except for chemistry,” said Al-Harbi.

Abdul Rahman Al-Lahem, Al-Harbi’s lawyer, told Arab News that the sentence was illegal. “Any case that has to do with sacrilege must be heard in a special religious court and not in a regular one,” he explained. “ The judge heard them individually and did not give the defendant the right to interrogate the witnesses,” said Al-Lahem. He also refused to acknowledge Al-Lahem as the defendant’s lawyer. Al-Lahem will appeal the verdict 10 days from the date of the original sentence.

Strangely, the judge did not question anyone from the school except for the students and the teachers who filed the lawsuit. “I asked the court to talk to the principal and anyone from the school, but the judge refused,” said Al-Harbi.

One of the charges made against Al-Harbi was that he praised disbelievers. Al-Lahem said that this was a very broad statement without an exact meaning.

Another accusation made by the students and the teachers is that Al-Harbi mocked bearded men since many religious people are bearded. “That is just ridiculous,” Al-Lahem said, pointing out that Al-Harbi himself has a beard.

When Arab News called the school principal, he refused to make any comment beyond saying that he had been told by “higher authorities” to say nothing to the media.

The physical education teacher at the school, however, said he had known Al-Harbi as a decent, respectable, cooperative individual. “One of the students came to me today and told me that they really missed their chemistry teacher,” he said.

The Ministry of Education has transferred Al-Harbi from his teaching job to an administrative one at the governorate educational office in Ein Al-Juwa. When he contacted the ministry and asked why he was being moved, Al-Harbi failed to get a clear answer.

40 posted on 11/14/2005 11:33:50 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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