Posted on 11/13/2005 3:49:41 PM PST by Crackingham
U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum said Saturday that he doesn't believe that intelligent design belongs in the science classroom. Santorum's comments to The Times are a shift from his position of several years ago, when he wrote in a Washington Times editorial that intelligent design is a "legitimate scientific theory that should be taught in the classroom."
But on Saturday, the Republican said that, "Science leads you where it leads you."
Santorum was in Beaver Falls to present Geneva College President Kenneth A. Smith with a $1.345 million check from federal funds for renovations that include the straightening and relocation of Route 18 through campus.
Santorum's comments about intelligent design come at a time when the belief that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by a higher power, an alternative to the theory of evolution, has come under fire on several fronts.
A federal trial just wrapped up in which eight families sued Dover Area School District in eastern Pennsylvania. The district's school board members tried to introduce teaching intelligent design into the classroom, but the families said the policy violated the constitutional separation of church and state. No ruling has been issued on the trial, but Tuesday, all eight Dover School Board members up for re-election were ousted by voters, leading to a fiery tirade by religious broadcaster Pat Robertson.
Robertson warned residents, "If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected him from your city."
Santorum said flatly Saturday, "I disagree. I don't believe God abandons people," and said he has not spoken to Robertson about his comments.
Though Santorum said he believes that intelligent design is "a legitimate issue," he doesn't believe it should be taught in the classroom, adding that he had concerns about some parts of the theory.
By the way you emphasized the word 'theory' is sounds like you think that theories are somewhat less than what should be taught. This shows a lack of understanding of how science works. No problem, this is common among creationists. Let me explain it to you.
Nothing in science is based on proof, or proofs, but on statistical analysis of evidence that provides us with a level of confidence that the theory is valid. So, number one, asking for proof is erroneous. Asking for evidence would be correct.
A theory is made up of a number of hypotheses, from one to however many are developed, that have been tested and found to give a high level of confidence. In other words, a theory has already been tested and verified. As you can see this pretty much is counter to your statement about 'unproven theories'.
I would strongly suggest otherwise and I think it's highly remiss for you to suggest that. ID is backed by facts coming out the wazoo. Evolution is nothing short of a theory well short on facts and data yet one that has simply been embraced, largely by people on the left, simply b/c their not embracing it indicts much of the basis for their thinking generally and particularly speaking.
I'll leave it for you to consider which ideology, conservatism or liberalism is the one that is short on facts, truth, and bases for their arguments and which is founded on truth, facts, and solid foundations for their arguments!
Cordially!
No, I really did not. I just don't see that these people are dictating any such religion to you or anyone else. And I don't see them doing it "despite" the scientific evidence, I see them doing it with it. Your argument presumes that they think nothing of science and that science has no place with God. I say thats nonsense.
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As I said in an earlier post, we're dealing with people who have no kinship to, no education in and no understanding of science. They insist, in their arguments here, that science conform to their uninformed beliefs.
I don't think God abandons people. I think people abandon God.
Yes, the fossil record is replete with evidence of evolving species.
Apparently not since all he appears to be is a Specter in training. The Dims certainly aren't going to support him.
What else would you expect it to be?
It should slice, dice and splice the genes of mutant mice. It should be a juicer and a boost my gas mileage to over 102 per gallon. I'd like to take it out to the zoo and buy it red balloons and funnel cake. And it should keep the ice cream in my fridge from going melty, cure hang-overs, clip my toe nails and walk the dog.
Thank God someones got some sense!!!!!!!!!!
I am already tired. People like you wear me out by refusing to understand what I am saying.
The message is timeless. It will be true a million years from now if the human race still exists. That is the point. It is ancient and it is timeless, some truths are eternal and have to be stated again and again.
I have no use for stupid people. They have murdered millions. Only logical, rational, ruthlessly truthful people are going to change anything.
Go have fun. You might grow up some day. Life is more than having fun.
Interesting, Evolution is a theory, has much evidence to support, and to suggest, but is not clearly and fully realized yet you believe in it. That DOES require some faith. Your faith is that the undiscovered will be discovered and answer the blanks. fill in the gaps, or to use a phrase fill in those "missing" links.
Don't lecture me on trashing of words and their meanings. You are conveniently predisposed to evolution being on solid enough ground as to be perfect in its presentation when it is still a work in much progress requiring more. Faith has meaning for you as well, here is your definition :Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
What this more than likely means is that Santorum really isn't that bright a bulb. It shows that he's likely not reasoned any of this out himself, even less reason to support him. If he had, then he'd not have changed his position.
I know of absolutely no one that upon reviewing the evidence pro/con for both theories in an intellectually honest and objective manner that has chosen evolution for any reason whatsoever.
You do know that ID means man evolved from a simple organism over millions of years ...
"Ah, this is just typical MSM pitting one religious person against another. Santorum is Catholic so he is pro-evolution."
Maybe Santorum reads to read THIS:
Further, he (the Pope) seems to be cautioning those who have been claiming Church endorsement of the full-bodied, design-defeating version of Darwin's theory of evolution, which, after all, is often little more than philosophical materialism applied to science, added Chapman.
Chapman noted that in his very first homily as Pope, Benedict XVI had rebuked the idea that human beings are mere products of evolution, and that, like his predecessor, John Paul II, the new Pope has a long record of opposition to scientific materialism.
excerpt from: http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=3015&program=News&callingPage=discoMainPage
It sure looks that way! I'm glad you've noticed.
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