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French rail at foreign 'beat-up' (The French are unhappy about intl. ridicule)
The Australian ^ | November 14, 2005 | Emma-Kate Symons

Posted on 11/13/2005 8:35:36 AM PST by indcons

THE French have had enough of the riots that are sullying their international reputation as the land of civility, as well as liberty, equality and fraternity.

By the end of last week, there was a collective sense of relief as the nightly toll of burnt cars, and torched schools, nurseries, gyms, warehouses and small businesses rapidly diminished.

A few hundred - as opposed to well over a thousand - incinerated cars and a significant drop in violence in the troubled suburbs of Paris signalled for most French citizens a welcome break from the fortnight of violence that had threatened the whole concept of law and order in the republic.

With the imposition of an unprecedented state of emergency authorising local authorities to slap curfews on unruly young people, hopes grew that the untamed youth of the suburbs would quietly return to their housing estates.

Many commentators on French television and the major newspapers whined about the gross exaggerations of the riots in the foreign media.

"This is not Chechnya," one angry resident of Clichy-sous-Bois, the isolated Paris immigrant suburb where the rioting began two weeks ago, angrily told The Australian at a memorial rally for the town's gym, burned down the evening before by a gleeful mob of pyromaniacs.

But over the weekend the rioting did not abate. Indeed, for the first time since the violence exploded on October 27 after two teenage boys were electrocuted in Clichy-sous-Bois -- the pair took refuge in a power substation believing they were being chased by police -- the crisis spread to a major city centre.

Rioters struck at the heart of Lyon, considered France's second-most important town, at 5pm on Saturday. About 50 youths descended on Bellecour Square -- the Lyon landmark beloved by locals and tourists -- a few hours before the authorities were due to impose a curfew banning unaccompanied youngsters from the streets of the city after dark.

The brazen attack frightened shoppers and local business people, who quickly closed their enterprises before riot police restored a semblance of order. Two people were arrested and investigations are continuing.

A few dozen cars were torched in central Paris a week earlier, but the menacing presence of a large gang of rioters had not been experienced in a major French urban centre since the civil unrest broke out.

Paris had been on edge throughout the Armistice Day long weekend after reportedly credible threats to capital landmarks like the Champs Elysee, home to the Arc de Triomphe, and the Eiffel Tower were discovered on websites and through intercepted text messages.

The threats were not acted upon -- probably because of the overwhelming police presence in central Paris and a concerted public campaign by Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy. The tough-talking presidential aspirant promised to impose the full force of republican law on any young agitators who dared take out their rage on the symbols of French glory and in full view of the foreign tourists.

Despite the relative calm in Paris, unrest continued in the provinces. Toulouse -- a hotspot in the south of France -- again experienced a night of ritual car burnings.

In Carpentras, locals were still digesting the disturbing news that a local mosque had been attacked -- presumably by far-right militants capitalising on the incendiary social situation.

The French appear shocked that the eyes of the world are turned to their nation in crisis. They are a proud people who are more accustomed to being being admired for their country's world-class cuisine, intellectual heritage and enviable lifestyle.

The official spokesman of the centre-right Government, Jean-Francois Cope, has called a special meeting today with all international correspondents working in France.

He wants to counteract the alarming global dissemination of the view that France is in flames -- and therefore a dangerous tourist destination.

Or as Le Figaro newspaper reported: "Since the beginning of the crisis, European and foreign television networks and newspapers have had the tendency to present the country as if it is in a quasi state of war."

The problem with Cope's argument is that it is the French press, political elite and commentariat who have raised the spectre of "the germs of civil war". Or, as Ivan Riouful argued in Le Figaro on Friday, the rioters are committing acts of "urban terrorism".

The so-called Paris intifada is not an invention of a gloating foreign press corps, thrilled that France with its deep sense of cultural superiority is getting its comeuppance.

The images of the nightly violence speak for themselves -- and the weekend's attack in central Lyon shows the country's worst case of civil unrest since World War II, or at least May 1968, is not over yet.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; franceriots; french; parisriots; rop; surrendermonkeys
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To: indcons
"About 50 youths descended on Bellecour Square...The brazen attack frightened shoppers and local business people, who quickly closed their enterprises"

Um, 50 teenagers? Pull out a shotgun and shoot them in the butt. Jeez.

41 posted on 11/13/2005 10:12:57 AM PST by JasonC
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To: GSlob
"I'm not the quickest tractor on the farm
I don't have skills or grace or charm
Most people think that I'm covered with ants
But I'm a blooming genius here in France..."

author unknown

42 posted on 11/13/2005 10:14:19 AM PST by albee ("Those that bite the hand that feeds them will lick the boot that kicks them!" - Eric Hoffer)
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To: JasonC
"About 50 youths descended on Bellecour Square...The brazen attack frightened shoppers and local business people, who quickly closed their enterprises"

During the riots in LA, the Koreans lined up the guns and protected their property - ya gotta respect that. It's pretty hard to respect somebody that folds up and hides away.

43 posted on 11/13/2005 10:19:52 AM PST by glorgau
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To: indcons

Put some glace on it.


44 posted on 11/13/2005 10:26:27 AM PST by fish hawk (I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
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To: Semper Paratus
Remember the French ridicule and French commentary on "American racism" after Katrina?

LOL...appears that 'sowing and reaping' teaching in the scripture is moving along at record speed. In the past, reaping what we've sown took yrs if not decades now it's happening at record speed.... ;o)

45 posted on 11/13/2005 10:28:23 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: indcons

Something sort of puzzles me - how come we only see pictures of the CARS burning, and not the extensive damage done to all the public and privately owned real estate? Not just Paris, but apparently in MANY cities major and minor throughout the provinces.

With all the car fires, the entire fleet of automobiles in Frence has to be down to about two R-5s and a Peugot. I understand their owners are protecting them fiercely, shaking their fists threateningly at the advancing Muslim hordes.


46 posted on 11/13/2005 10:41:54 AM PST by alloysteel (Payback and reality may not be related, but they can both be a b*tch.)
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To: jimbo123

I thought the last frame was a "riot".. look at the french poodle, the paraplegic frog in a wheel chair, and the french fry! And "Le Police" surrendering!!! I laughed so hard I nearly wet myself.


47 posted on 11/13/2005 10:43:24 AM PST by hang 'em (Attention Cindy Sheehan: contact this tagline for your free all expense paid vacation in Aruba.)
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To: alloysteel

The muzzie-enabling media refuses to show the remains of the churches and nursery schools that were burned to the ground by these french "youths."


48 posted on 11/13/2005 10:51:12 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: indcons
I summarized a lot of the French reporting on Katrina on my blog:


49 posted on 11/13/2005 10:53:26 AM PST by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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To: indcons; All
Is Paris Burning? ( Religion of Peace® Alert )
Click the picture:

Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:

No, I am not exaggerating. Click the pic, go to "last," and read backwards.
If you are not informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.


Then, correlate with some of our own problems:

For "Thunder on the Border," click the picture:


Note tagline...

50 posted on 11/13/2005 11:01:04 AM PST by backhoe (Anyone recall "A Clockwork Orange?")
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To: denydenydeny
I summarized a lot of the French reporting on Katrina on my blog:

Grrrrr! Now that makes me mad. The only thing that would make this better is if they have to come crawling to us for help. Which I would refuse them, after securing their nukes.

51 posted on 11/13/2005 11:20:49 AM PST by MontanaBeth (Never under estimate the enemy.)
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Do you request others to shut up while speaking up yourself at every possible occasion?
- Do you ask others to respect agreements while systematically flaunting them yourself?
- Do you think Hitler was bad but Napoleon was good?
- Do you think De Gaulle liberated France?
- Do you vote for corrupt thieves and/or liars?
- Are you proud when companies from your country buy businesses abroad but you are opposed to the sale of your national companies to foreigners?
- Do you think a nation with a GDP 4 times less than yours should financially contribute more to the EU than your own country?
- Have you ever heard of Jacques Attali?
- Do you think 2 weeks of rioting and thousands of cars burnt, not mentioning schools etc., constitute "some isolated incidents"?
- Do you call Iraq an invasion and Ivory Coast a peacekeeping mission?
- Do you think healthcare and education are free because you never received a detailed bill with those items on them?
- Do you think Chirac and Sarkozy are right-wing politicians?
- Can you name two people who made poetry about seagulls?
- Do you think the UN should have more power and responsibilities?
- Do you approve of a commission deciding what words you may use and which ones should be excluded from your language?
- Do you think mimolette is a Dutch cheese?
- Is Total-Elf just a normal oil company in your opinion?
- Is Strasbourg the capital of the EU?
- Did Lance Armstrong dope himself?

If you answered "yes" to one question, you are possibly French.
If you answered "yes" to two questions, you are probably French.
If you answered "yes" to three questions or more, you are almost certainly French.


52 posted on 11/13/2005 11:41:05 AM PST by Fanter
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To: indcons
Greatest French Scientist: Polish (Marie Curie)

Greatest French Leading Man: Italian (Yves Montand nee Ernesto Livi)

Greatest French Pianist: Polish (Chopin)

Greatest 20th Century French male singer: Armenian (Charles Azavanour)

53 posted on 11/13/2005 11:41:39 AM PST by Clemenza (In League with the Freemasons, The Bilderbergers, and the Learned Elders of Zion)
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To: indcons

Hmmmm.....interesting.


54 posted on 11/13/2005 12:34:32 PM PST by PatriotGirl827 (There are no short cuts to any place worth going.)
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To: indcons

shoot to kill the arsonists
Deport even those who are French citizens. Strip them of their ill gotten citizenship


55 posted on 11/13/2005 12:36:14 PM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: Clemenza

Best French soldiers: The French Foreign Legion


56 posted on 11/13/2005 12:38:10 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: indcons

No balls.

No death penalty.

No country.

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch! I guess selling weapons to Islamofascists to appease them (and hence, get "eaten" last) didn't work out too well, did it? LOL!


57 posted on 11/13/2005 12:58:53 PM PST by SpinyNorman (The ACLU empowers terrorists and criminals, weakens America, and degrades our society.)
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To: indcons

Could it be that the Crusaders had it right all along?


58 posted on 11/13/2005 1:02:34 PM PST by SpinyNorman (The ACLU empowers terrorists and criminals, weakens America, and degrades our society.)
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To: indcons
THE French have had enough of the riots that are sullying their international reputation as the land of civility, as well as liberty, equality and fraternity.

Well, at least there is a pretty good mustard named after them.

59 posted on 11/13/2005 2:40:54 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: indcons
THE French have had enough of the riots that are sullying their international reputation as the land of civility, as well as liberty, equality and fraternity.

If they had put as much emphasis on enforcing the laws of liberty, they wouldn't be the laughingstock of the civilized world.

It seems they believe in having a police force, but not using it. Ditto: military.

I should like to see France get her bearings.

60 posted on 11/13/2005 2:43:30 PM PST by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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