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HILL DUCKS LIBBY ISSUE (shazam---pardon issues reopen Clintons' wounds)
NY POST ^ | November 12, 2005 | IAN BISHOP

Posted on 11/12/2005 6:31:47 AM PST by Liz

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is staying silent as top Democratic senators demand President Bush rule out a pardon for indicted top White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby — which could evoke memories of her and her husband's own Pardongate scandal.

Party leaders — have written a letter to Bush urging that he promise not to pardon Libby, who has been charged with obstruction of justice and perjury in the CIA-leak case........Clinton ducked taking a position on the letter.

Rekindled comparisons to Pardongate would open old wounds for the first lady, who is readying for re-election and eyeing a run for the White House in 2008.

Bill Clinton created an uproar when he issued 11th-hour pardons to 140 people before he left office.

Sen. Clinton herself came under fire when feds investigated whether she offered clemency to four men from the Hasidic village of New Square in exchange for the community's votes in her 2000 Senate run. She has denied playing a role in the men's pardons.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cheney; cialeak; fitzgerald; libby; marcrich; pardongate; phlame; scotterlibby; vp
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Talking about Clinton's outrageous pardons, back in 2001, the Burton congressional committee was supposedly jolted when Democrats called Libby, vice president Dick Cheney's chief of staff, to the witness stand regarding the catastrophic last-minute Clinton pardon of Marc Rich. Libby testified that not only did he approve of the pardon, within hours, as the Bush admin took over, Libby actually called Rich to offer his congratulations the moment he heard the news.

Not exactly something a true blue conservative would do, is it? And obviously, Libby's defense of the pardon nicely exonerated Clinton. Makes you wonder which side this guy is on.

I guess Marc Rich must have been gratified to know he had a "friend" in the new Bush administration, right smack dab in the VP's office.

Having a foot in both political camps, although totally unprincipled, is so handy, especially if you are a traitor and a convicted tax cheat. Shucks, Rich must be really peeved that Libby got indicted, and is gone from the WH.

OTOH, knowing Rich's friend in the Bush administration is gone sure makes authentic, true blue conservatives feel really good.

Looking at Bush's poll numbers, we geta an idea how badly this porno jerk Libby hurt President Bush, and Republican causes.

(Snicker) Also, maybe Hillary read Libby's steamy novel, The Apprentice, which Libby wrote in 1996 --- that was before he was indicted for lying to a grand jury. Now out of print, Libby's (gag) novel tells the story of an innkeeper apprentice in a bizarre coming-of-age story set in Japan in 1903. It is littered with edgy sexual material and strong language. "Wow, who would have thought that clean living, family values man Scooter Libby was capable of writing such filth," said one reviewer on Amazon. Another Amazon reviewer noted its "lavish dollops of voyeurism, bestiality, pedophilia and corpse robbery."

Corpse robbery? Looks like Libby also has a fascination with necrophilia.

Libby was charged last month with perjury in a special prosecutor's probe into how a CIA operative's identity was leaked to journalists.

Libby's writing skills also happened to be displayed in a widely published letter to reporter Judith Miller of The New York Times who went to jail to protect Libby's identity). His note to Miller showed a flair for literary allusion and ambiguity not to mention agitprop, propaganda, and proselytizing.

In reply to Miller's request for a separate waiver Libby wrote: "As noted above, my lawyer confirmed my waiver to other reporters in just the way he did with your lawyer. Why? Because as I am sure will not be news to you, the public report of every other reporter's testimony makes clear that they did not discuss Ms. Plame's name or identity with me, or knew about her before our call......

"You went to jail in the summer. It is fall now. You will have stories to cover -- Iraqi elections and suicide bombers, biological threats and the Iranian nuclear program. Out West, where you vacation, the aspens will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them. Come back to work—-and life. Until then, you will remain in my thoughts and prayers. With admiration, Scooter Libby." [Emphasis added.]

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Sure doesn't sound like something a conservative would write, now does it? And don't you just love Libby's gratuitous reference to the "Iranaian nuclear program." Clearly Libby was setting Miller up to push his agenda. Talk about agitprop. Guy's a master proselytizer.

Question: Did Libby tell President Bush about "his" plans before he told Miller, and the media?

1 posted on 11/12/2005 6:31:47 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

Not surprising Libby is a Democrat.


2 posted on 11/12/2005 6:34:46 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: Liz
Gotta tell you what I'd do in W's place.

I'd call a national press conference and announce that I was going to handle the Libby case the way Slick KKKlinton would:

I'd have Scooter Libby pull a hundred dollar bill out of his wallet and hand it to me in exchange for a full pardon on the spot, i.e. sell Scooter the pardon for a hundred bucks, and use the hundred to send out for pizza for all in attendence right there, and I'd have Mojo Nixon and Ice-T on hand to sing "F*** You Patrick Fitzgerald", and invite the nation to sing along.

3 posted on 11/12/2005 6:41:31 AM PST by anthraciterabbit
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To: Liz

Information like this makes me question Bush's common sense. Someone please tell me what is stopping him from firing all high-level Democrats in his administration?


4 posted on 11/12/2005 6:43:31 AM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
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To: Liz; dennisw; SJackson; Alouette; Salem; Hildy
Looking at Bush's poll numbers, we geta an idea how badly this porno jerk Libby hurt President Bush, and Republican causes.

Right. All of Bush's problems are due to this one Jew, eh?

I didn't notice Bush mentioning Libby in his speech yesterday. Instead HE went after the Democrats who are attacking him, and his policies.

Frankly, I find your commentary on this thread offensive, prurient, disloyal to Bush, and a replication of the attacks on Libby that I have seen at the most anti-semitic sites on the web.

Even Daily Kos's attacks on Libby aren't as snarky as yours.

Such personal attacks on Mr. Libby for a book YOU HAVE NOT READ are inexecusable IMO.

5 posted on 11/12/2005 6:43:38 AM PST by veronica (What will "Ronnie" think? The question that obsesses the internut clowns...)
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To: Paloma_55
Wait. There's more.

Ol' Scooter Libby was awarded the Department of Defense Distinguished Service Award and the Department of the Navy Distinguished Public Service Award in 1993....... from the Clinton Administration.

Libby's spouse is Harriet Grant, a Democrat, who was General Counsel to the Judiciary Committee when it was chaired by Joe Biden (when Dems were in the majority). Mrs Libby was probably part of the Democrat attack machine that slimed Clarence Thomas during his nomination hearings. The Libby's dinnertime conversation must have been interesting.

It's not at all reassuring to authentic conservatives that Libby and spouse were hostile to the social conservative agenda, while Libby was holding power in a conservative admin.

Libby held three titles in the Bush admin: (1) Cheney's chief of staff, (2) national security adviser to the vice president, and (3) assistant to President George W. Bush -- a sign of Libby's broad influence.

6 posted on 11/12/2005 6:43:43 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz
The prosecutor should have immediately found out that, under the circumstances, it wasn't illegal to reveal that Plame-Wilson was CIA. And, having done so, closed up shop.

He did not do so, because that's not what special prosecutors do. The law did not require a special prosecutor, but Ashcroft and his subordinate - and Bush himself - wanted to be "goody two shoes," so Bush let them recuse themselves. This is the thanks the administration gets.

It's all Bush's fault. No sarcasm intended.


8 posted on 11/12/2005 6:44:12 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: Liz
(Democrat) Party leaders — have written a letter to Bush urging that he promise not to pardon Libby, who has been charged with obstruction of justice and perjury in the CIA-leak case........Clinton ducked taking a position on the letter.

According to my Webster II New Riverside University Dictionary the word pardon is defined as Law a. The exemption of a convicted person from the penalties of an offense or crime by the power of the executor of the laws.

The Democrats not only can't wait for a conviction, they want to bypass the trial.

9 posted on 11/12/2005 6:45:16 AM PST by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: Liz
And I don't expect you to answer my post, since you apparently are incapable of debating me, and never choose to do so.

I am sick and tired of the disloyalty among some in the GOP ranks, the carping harpies who turn on anyone in the Bush adminstration on a dime.

10 posted on 11/12/2005 6:46:40 AM PST by veronica (What will "Ronnie" think? The question that obsesses the internut clowns...)
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To: anthraciterabbit

That would be something wouldn't it! Unfortunately might negatively affect future elections.


11 posted on 11/12/2005 6:50:10 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: hflynn
The Democrats not only can't wait for a conviction, they want to bypass the trial.

So do apparently, some FReepers.

Mr. Libby has been tried, convicted, and branded with a Scarlett Letter.

After all, he wrote a book that nobody here has read, yet some feel comfortable as characterizing as "porn", making Libby out to be Larry Flynt...

12 posted on 11/12/2005 6:51:07 AM PST by veronica (What will "Ronnie" think? The question that obsesses the internut clowns...)
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To: Liz
Mayhaps our Bush administration is really, really cleaning hiouse from the top down?

And if so ... is there a major event planned for the future, before President Bush leaves office?

No matter how much I disagree with some of what President Bush is doing (borders, spending etc.), I just can't shake the impression that he puts the world's chess champ (whomever that is now ... )to shame for thinking many more moves ahead.

I almost can't wait until the end of President Bush's term ... just to see where we are and where we are headed.

13 posted on 11/12/2005 6:51:52 AM PST by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: Liz

This seemed a good thread to remind people that Clinton pardoned 16 FALN terrorists in order to garner the Hispanic vote for Hillary.

And, of course, let's not remember the Marc Rich pardon. Rich was heavily involved in the Oil for Food scandal and a good supporter of Saddam.


14 posted on 11/12/2005 6:52:48 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Liz
Mayhaps our Bush administration is really, really cleaning hiouse from the top down?

And if so ... is there a major event planned for the future, before President Bush leaves office?

No matter how much I disagree with some of what President Bush is doing (borders, spending etc.), I just can't shake the impression that he puts the world's chess champ (whomever that is now ... )to shame for thinking many more moves ahead.

I almost can't wait until the end of President Bush's term ... just to see where we are and where we are headed.

15 posted on 11/12/2005 6:53:04 AM PST by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: hflynn

True enough----Dims could care less about our laws.....but if the history books are accurate, Ford pardoned Nixon without a trial.


16 posted on 11/12/2005 6:54:04 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: knarf

OOPS


17 posted on 11/12/2005 6:54:07 AM PST by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: antonius; freedomdefender; Sam's Army

With "conservative friends" like Libby who needs enemies, eh?


18 posted on 11/12/2005 6:56:56 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: gotribe
"Information like this makes me question Bush's common sense. Someone please tell me what is stopping him from firing all high-level Democrats in his administration?"

Um. The article says Democrat senators

19 posted on 11/12/2005 6:57:07 AM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: One Wing to Rule Them All and to the Dark Side Bind Them)
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To: veronica
"Right. All of Bush's problems are due to this one Jew, eh? "

Didn't know until your post that Libby was a Jew. Should it make a difference to anyone?

20 posted on 11/12/2005 6:58:10 AM PST by EverOnward
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