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Pat Robertson has a message for Dover, PA: Don't ask God to help.
WGAL.com ^ | 11.10.05 | WGAL

Posted on 11/10/2005 1:33:57 PM PST by conserv13

DOVER, Pa. -- Pat Robertson had a special message for residents of Dover, Pa., today after voters there elected to boot the current school board, which instituted an intelligent design policy that led to a federal trial.

Robertson made the comment after Lee Webb of CBN News delivered a report on how residents in Dover voted in eight new Democratic board members, replacing all eight current members who had voted for a policy that required students in ninth-grade biology classes to hear a statement on intelligent design before hearing lessons on evolution. Webb then asked Robertson what he thought about the vote.

Here was Robertson's response.

"I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected him from your city. And don't wonder why he hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, don't ask for his help because he might not be there."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: angrygod; crevolist; dover; intelligentdesign; ispatoffhismeds; patrobertson; patsfullofhotgas
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To: Right Wing Professor
Love that! Hope it stays up for a while.

;)

221 posted on 11/11/2005 7:47:27 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Right Wing Professor
South Bend, indeed.

LOL

222 posted on 11/11/2005 7:49:23 AM PST by Gumlegs
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To: js1138
Rumor has it that a strand of spaghetti was found in one of the voting machines, blocking votes for one of the incumbents.

I believe the guy is actualy claiming the 100's digit place failed to mechanically roll over from 0 to 1 on some gear-driven mechanism like the old ka-ching! cash registers. Sounds like an act of God to me. Also sounds like they need digital technology. Of course, my litte WV county still has paper ballots.

223 posted on 11/11/2005 7:50:37 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: conserv13

"From the days of your fathers you have turned aside from my statutes and have not kept them. Return to me, and I will return to you, says the LORD of hosts."

Malachi 3:7a

Robertson has a point.


224 posted on 11/11/2005 7:57:22 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow (Standing on the Promises, or sitting on the premises?)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Robertson has a point.

...on the top of his head.

225 posted on 11/11/2005 8:01:20 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Preachin'

"What quote specifically makes the Lord out as a terrorist?"

This one:

"And don't wonder why he hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do..."

He's using the approach favored by the mafia when they go around collecting protection money.

"Which is worse.... what he said or what you said about him?

Which is worse...what he said or your furious efforts to pretend that he didn't say it?


226 posted on 11/11/2005 8:04:10 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: VadeRetro

This is likely to get this thread demoted to Smokey Backroom.


227 posted on 11/11/2005 8:07:27 AM PST by drlevy88
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To: RonPaulLives

no where in the bible does it say we should not ask for God's help.


228 posted on 11/11/2005 8:08:32 AM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: Right Wing Professor; Gamecock; All

Something for some on this thread to read and consider.

It was written in 1819, built off of scripture written thousands of years ago, and still applies today:

(John Angell James, "The Crisis--or, Hope and Fear
Balanced, in Reference to the Present Situation of
the Country" Sunday Morning, Nov. 28, 1819)

"From the day it was built until now, this city has so
aroused My anger and wrath that I must remove it
from My sight!" Jeremiah 32:31

Let us devoutly acknowledge both the source and
the justice of our calamities. The origin of the evils
that afflict us, is often to be found in the sins which
disgrace us.

Sin is the only thing in all the universe which God
hates, and this He abhors wherever He discovers it.

With our limited understanding, and feeble powers of
moral perception, it is impossible for us to form an
adequate idea of the evil of sin, or the light in which
it is contemplated by a God whose understanding
is infinite, and whose purity is immaculate. That law
which men are daily trampling upon, equally without
consideration, without reason, and without penitence,
is most sacred in His eyes, as the emanation and the
transcript of His own holiness. He is also omnipresent
and omniscient. There is not a nook or corner of the
land from which He is excluded. Of every scene of
iniquity He is the constant, though invisible witness.
The whole mass of national guilt, with every the
minutest particular of it, is ever before His eye!

His justice, which consists in giving to all their
due, must incline Him to punish iniquity--and His
power enables Him to do it!

He is the moral governor of the nations, and
concerned to render His providence subservient
to the display of His attributes. And if a people so
highly favored as we are, notwithstanding our
manifold sins, escape without chastisement--will
not some be ready to question the equity, if not
the very exercise of His administration?

His threatenings against the wicked are to be found
in almost every page of holy Scripture. Nor are the
threatenings of the Bible to be viewed in the light
of mere unreal terrors, as clouds and storms which
the poet's pencil has introduced into the picture; the
creatures of his own imagination, and only intended
to excite the imagination of others.

No! They are solemn realities, intended to operate
by their denunciation as a check upon sin; or if not
so regarded, to be endured in their execution as a
punishment upon our sins! Scripture gives us many
examples in which this has happened. It has preserved
an account of the downfall of nearly all the chief empires,
kingdoms, and cities of antiquity; and that, not as a
mere chronicle of the event, but as a great moral
lesson to the world. Scripture carefully informs us,
that sin was the cause of their ruin!

Volcanoes terrify with their eruptions, and submerge
towns or cities beneath their streams of lava!

Earthquake's convulsive throes bury a population
beneath the ruins of their own abodes!

Hurricanes carry desolation through a country!

Famine whitens the valleys with the bones of the
thousands who have perished beneath its reign!

Pestilence stalks through a land, hurrying
multitudes to the tomb, and filling all that
remain with unutterable terrors!

Wars have been agents in the unparalleled
scenes of bloodshed and misery!

Scripture proclaims that these are to be regarded
as a fearful exposition of the evil nature of
sin, written by the finger of God upon the tablet
of the earth's history!

Visit, in imagination, my countrymen, the spots
where many of these cities once stood, and you
shall see nothing but desolation stalking like a
specter across the plain, lifting its eye to heaven,
and exclaiming, amidst the silence that reigns
around, "The kingdom and the nation that will
not serve You, shall utterly perish!" As you stand
amidst the moldering fragments of departed
grandeur, does not every breeze, as it sighs
through the ruins, seem to say, as a voice from
the sepulcher, "See, therefore, and know that it
is an evil and a bitter thing to sin against the Lord!"

Let us devoutly acknowledge both the source and
the justice of our calamities. The origin of the evils
that afflict us, is often to be found in the sins which
disgrace us.


229 posted on 11/11/2005 8:10:01 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow (Standing on the Promises, or sitting on the premises?)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
' "And don't wonder why he hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do..." '

Yeah..... Like the Lord answers to Pat's whims.

As if the Lord says, "Okay Pat, whatever you want".

You make it seem like Pat is saying that the Lord answers to him.

Give me a break. It looks bad to place words in another person's mouth, or ascribe thoughts about which you have no evidence.

Ananias and Sapphira (sp?) died because they lied to the Holy Spirit.

We get too busy making God who we want Him to be instead of reading His word and seeing what it says He is.
230 posted on 11/11/2005 8:10:32 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: conserv13

A buffoon. Good grief why doesn't he just shut up. It seems like every time he opens his mouth....


231 posted on 11/11/2005 8:10:53 AM PST by Trust but Verify (( ))
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To: PatrickHenry

Besides, he blew the cover on ID--"it ain't science" nohow, noway.


232 posted on 11/11/2005 8:14:03 AM PST by airforceF4
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To: steve-b
I'll bet that most of the people who criticize Christians for criticizing Robertson are the same ones who wonder why ordinary Muslims don't denounce the terrorist whack jobs among them.

Ordinary Muslims don't denounce the terrorist whack jobs among them becuase they don't want to get killed by those terrorist whack jobs.

233 posted on 11/11/2005 8:20:01 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: drlevy88
This is likely to get this thread demoted to Smokey Backroom.

No, it's just gone! Rats!

I swear a creationist is someone who believes in souls but doesn't have one.

234 posted on 11/11/2005 8:24:11 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Preachin'
Ananias and Sapphira (sp?) died because they lied to the Holy Spirit.

Looks like the earliest documented instance of a collectivist shakedown to me. Peter comes off looking like Lenin.

If I'd been the local DA then I would have ordered an autopsy on those two. Wonder if the Lord used daggers or a ligature?

235 posted on 11/11/2005 8:26:32 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: VadeRetro

Oh well. I'll put it up on my own site.


236 posted on 11/11/2005 8:26:38 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: sausageseller
they are CINOs!

Is that a resident of Encino?
(A city in Los Angeles County)

237 posted on 11/11/2005 8:30:01 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: VadeRetro

Likely as anything, a nice pulmonary embolism. Really don't know.

The rap in that case wasn't that A & S didn't donate it all, but that they put on a show of donating it all when they didn't. I'm sure you get irked at high life televangelists; well this pair were like peas in a pod with them.


238 posted on 11/11/2005 8:31:13 AM PST by drlevy88
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To: drlevy88
Likely as anything, a nice pulmonary embolism. Really don't know.

Funny Peter could foretell that. He even sent for the burial party before it happened.

239 posted on 11/11/2005 8:32:28 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: drlevy88
The rap in that case wasn't that A & S didn't donate it all, but that they put on a show of donating it all when they didn't.

But "giving it all" was evidently the expectation in a very collectivist organization. Such is explicitly stated. The effect of the deaths was terror in the community. Such is stated.

All you have to do is read it. They had communism. Two people held out. They were confronted. At least one was told she was about to die. She died. The community was terrorized and probably the holdout rate went down.

240 posted on 11/11/2005 8:35:36 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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