Pat Robertson has a message for Dover, PA: Don't ask God to help.

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[Tempest]

The periodic table.

I've explained multiple times now.

[Dimensio]

The periodic table.

When was the periodic table "theory"? Be specific.

I've explained multiple times now.

No, you haven't. You've repeatedly asserted without providing a single explanation. You haven't given any details as to exactly how the voters "rejected the Lord". The only thing that you've said is that they voted out the previous school board members and somehow "rejected creation", but you provided no link between the vote and a rejection of creation given that the vote had nothing whatsoever to do with creationism.

[js1138]

When was the periodic table "theory"? Be specific.

That's an interesting question.The Table gave rise to hypotheses that "missing" elements would be found with expected characteristics, and to some extent this happened.

However the Table itself was never explanatory, and there's a whole section that went kablooy in terms of expectations.

It's interesting that someone would consider the Table a theory or a fact.

[Quick1]

This Week in God is nothing without Stephen Colbert anymore. I am secretly hoping his show fails so that he'll come back to the Daily Show just to do that.

[Leonine]

"Really? You believe that Katrina's devastation was mostly caused by evildoers? Do tell."

Do you really need this elucidated? The politics in NO and LA has been crooked for a very, very long time. LA and particularly NO are ongoing Socialist nightmares. Enough said, or are you still without understanding?

[Leonine]

"Really? You believe that Katrina's devastation was mostly caused by evildoers? Do tell."--jennyp to Leonine

"9/11 was America's fault too."

Get a brain, man! 9/11 had nothing to do with misappropriation of funds. There's no relation between the evil actions and inactions in NO and LA politics and the evildoers' acitons on 9/11.

[Leonine]

"So every one of those New Orleansinians did deserve it? Gotcha."

Gotcha??? Please read post #286 and try to understand to the best of your abilities. I prayed before writing this post that the Lord would allow me to impart to those angry and juvenile viewers who question His sovereignty and wisdom this small glimpse of His ways that He has revealed to us ALL through His Word. I'm just another all-too-human Christian with an all-too-humanly tiny intellect. It would be simple enough to intellectually joust and triumph with other posters over minutiae, but what good would that accomplish? Better for us all is to appreciate with a long view the meaning in suffering so that maybe someone who is bereaved or impaired or despairing or cynically pretending numbness can know the context of life as uncovered in His Word.

Sadly, if you are truly numb to caring, there is a point of "hardening one's neck, and that without reproof." This is the state of being permanently lost, and it is something that only He Who knows the innermost of the hearts and the minds can determine. It is not surely ascertainable by any human. What IS surely ascertainable is that God is good, and He knows of our suffering, and He knows what He is doing (again, post #286).

[Oztrich Boy]

The whole point of science IS to establish facts!!!!

NO. The whole point of facts is to establish science.

[Tempest]

During it's formation classifications and distinguishing of elements had to be determined.

I have explained you're just either very dense or fisihing for a specific response to prattle on with one of your canned responses.

[Dimensio]

During it's formation classifications and distinguishing of elements had to be determined.

What observed phenomena does the periodic table explain.

I have explained you're just either very dense or fisihing for a specific response to prattle on with one of your canned responses.

No, you haven't. You keep asserting, over and over again, that the people of Dover have "rejected" the Lord and creation, but whenever you are pressed for specific details you cop out like a coward. You haven't even established a motive for the people of Dover voting out the school board. Perhaps the school board members weren't doing a good job in general. I've heard from at least one Dover resident that the school board members who were voted out were quite unpopular even before the recent fiasco that gave the district national attention.

[atlaw]

-- From your post 325:

jennyp: "Really? You believe that Katrina's devastation was mostly caused by evildoers? Do tell."

You: "Do you really need this elucidated? The politics in NO and LA has been crooked for a very, very long time. LA and particularly NO are ongoing Socialist nightmares. Enough said, or are you still without understanding?

-- From your post 326:

Oztrich Boy: "9/11 was America's fault too."

You: "Get a brain, man! 9/11 had nothing to do with misappropriation of funds. There's no relation between the evil actions and inactions in NO and LA politics and the evildoers' acitons on 9/11."

Some questions:

Why does God use hurricanes in particular to punish (1) "socialist nightmares" and (2) "misappropriation of funds"?

If God sends hurricanes in particular to punish "socialist nightmares" and "misappropriation of funds," how come neither the USSR nor Chicago were leveled by hurricanes a long time ago?

Does God use other specific weather-weapons to punish other specific types of evildoers (for example, tornadoes to punish crooked district attorneys, or maybe adulterers; lightening to punish highway contractors who use cheap concrete; blizzards to generally punish Unitarians in St. Paul; etc.)?

[Tempest]

you don't understand

and you still don't understand.

you'll probably never understand, but pray and you might find understanding.

I wash my hands of you.

[Dimensio]

you don't understand

and you still don't understand.

Obviously not, because you refuse to support your unsubstantiated assertions. This leads me to conclude that you are dishonest.

I wash my hands of you.

And now that you've failed utterly to show that your claims have any basis in reality, you run away like a coward. Why am I not surprised?

[Tempest]

I'm not scared of crazy people. Don't congratulate yourself in failure. It only makes you looks foolish....

[Dimensio]

I'm not scared of crazy people.

Baseless ad-hominem noted.

Don't congratulate yourself in failure.

I take no pride in your failure to support your baseless assertions. You made a claim, refused to support it with anything more than vague, meaningless assertions and then refused to clarify any further while declaring that you'd proven your case. You are a liar and a fraud, that much is clear. You have in no way shown that the people of Dover turned their back on God or creation. You haven't even established the motive of the voters in rejecting the current school board members, yet you arrogantly presume to know absolutely everything about the situation while demonstrating that you have no education on the matter at all.

If following your religion means becoming as dishonest as you are, then I want no part of it.

[Tempest]

What you call a baseless ad-hominem, I refer to as a Scientific observation with a predictable response.....


cukoo-cukoo....

[Dimensio]

What you call a baseless ad-hominem, I refer to as a Scientific observation with a predictable response.....

And you've still failed to support your claim that the citizens of Dover turned their backs on God. Not surprising, though, since you've made it quite clear that you're a liar and now you're resorting to insulting me in order to distract attention away from your blatant dishonesty.

I'm done conversing with you. You're a liar and a fraud and clearly nothing that you say can ever be trusted because you are willing to lie about an entire collection of voters when you don't get your way.

[Leonine]

"Some questions: Why does God use hurricanes in particular to punish (1) "socialist nightmares" and (2) "misappropriation of funds"? If God sends hurricanes in particular to punish "socialist nightmares" and "misappropriation of funds," how come neither the USSR nor Chicago were leveled by hurricanes a long time ago? [ROTFLOL--How embarrassingly dense!] Does God use other specific weather-weapons to punish other specific types of evildoers (for examples: tornadoes to punish crooked district attorneys or maybe adulterers; lightning to punish highway contractors who use cheap concrete; blizzards to punish Unitarians in St. Paul; etc.)?"

Do you really need this elucidated? The politics in NO and LA has been crooked for a very, very long time. LA and particularly NO are ongoing Socialist nightmares. Enough wasn't said. Astonishingly, you (and you alone) are still without understanding! Try very, very hard to think...

OK. The levees in NO were ineffective because the DemWits who have controlled that city as well as the state of LA for decades have not improved or even properly maintained them. The poverty, ignorance, and listlessness of the victims is borne from the weight of the boot of Socialism, which has ruled in this region since the days when Huey Long's demagoguery captured the snickers and votes of the wretched and childish who thought this madman to be cute when they heard him on the radio or saw him pounding the air with his fist in newsreels (1930's). The immediate inept response to the first day or two of crisis and both the preceding and the ensuing hapless administration of the organs of government exacerbated an already horrific circumstance. Can you take it from here??

Perhaps you should have read post #286 and thought about it. Were you thinking of evildoing? The perps (id est, the responsible evildoers--don't blame God) are the purveyors of Socialist utopian nonsense who dupe DemWits into giving them and their crooked associates power over their wellbeing and over the direction of their lives.

[atlaw]

Can you take it from here??

Sure. God had nothing to do with Katrina. How's that?

[Leonine]

You're 90% there. The complete responsibility lies with the Socialist DemWit politicians, their many crooked associates, and the few who were truly and wholly cognizant of the dangers and yet chose to risk their individual health and their lives. Although I fully appreciate your point in re Robertson, it is yet not precise to say "God had nothing to do with Katrina."

In that He is the omniscient Creator, the opportunity for suffering by tempest was foreknown. Indeed, the opportunities for sufferings in toto et al vivi were foreknown. Post #286 addresses this. Also, in that He is omnipotent, He allows evildoers to practice vile works mainly so that "iniquity can come to the full" without the significant remorse that works self-reform. Thence, His justice is perfect in continued forgiveness until "the neck is hardened, and that without reproof."