Posted on 11/09/2005 7:10:25 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000
House GOP leaders have decided to drop an Arctic oil drilling proposal from a budget bill.
Yep. This was done in the House.
This was mentioned on F&F this morning by Brian. The WH doesn't trumpet the good news and doesn't counter the bad news, expecting the facts to speak for themselves. Problem is the MSM doesn't cover anything except the bad so only one side is heard by the sheeple.
And the caribou have learned to live with Prudhoe Bay and actually thrive in the area. There are scientific statistics to back up claims that the oil drilling has not only NOT hurt wildlife, but actually enhanced wildlife in some case.
Joining this late and found this in the Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/08/AR2005110801583.html
"Two dozen moderate House Republicans have warned the leadership not to force a vote on the Arctic refuge as part of next week's budget bill, and House leaders are considering yanking the provision only to reinsert it during negotiations with the Senate."
Did the provision get yanked or did it get voted down?
I'm not surprised at all about either Bartlett or Gilcrest. Nothing to do with hunting either. Barlett has spoken to congress on several occasions on peak oil. Gilcrest has joined him.
Peak Oil Presentation in the US Congress http://www.energybulletin.net/4733.html
Video: Rep. Bartlett's Peak Oil Presentation to the US Congress
http://www.energybulletin.net/5080.html
US Congressman Roscoe Bartlett discusses Peak Oil on E&E TV http://www.energybulletin.net/5429.html
Second Bartlett Speech to Congress on Peak Oil to be Covered Live by C-SPAN http://www.energybulletin.net/5437.html
Congressman Bartlett on Peak Oil on C-SPAN tonight http://www.energybulletin.net/5710.html
Interview with Roscoe Bartlett on Peak Oil http://www.energybulletin.net/5790.html
Transcript: Third Peak Oil Presentation by Congressman Bartlett http://www.energybulletin.net/5948.html
Transcript: Fourth Peak Oil Presentation by US Congressman Bartlett, collegues. http://www.energybulletin.net/6082.html
Congressman Bartlett discusses peak oil with President Bush http://www.energybulletin.net/7024.html
From Roscoe Bartlett's first presentation (March 15, 2005):
Many people would like to open up ANWR. ANWR has considerably less oil than Prudhoe Bay, so the contribution will be significantly less. I want to note on this chart we also have the red curve, which is the theoretical curve for the former Soviet Union. It is a nice bell curve, peaking a little higher, they have more reserves than we do, and later because we entered the industrial age with vigor before the Soviet Union was quite there. Notice what happened when they came apart; notice how precipitously it fell here. After they got things organized, the fall stopped and now they are producing more oil. As a matter of fact, we might see a little upsurge in this; but the general trend is still going to be down.
On the next chart, and we have here the same Hubbert Curve, but the abscissa is a little too long and the ordinate a little too compressed, so it is not the sharp peak that we saw before. That is the curve we saw before. It shows the Texas component, and it shows the rest of the United States; and it also shows some natural gas liquids. We learned how to extract those a little later. So if you were plotting that as a bell curve, it would peak about here. It is little and then it is much, and then it tails off.
This is the contribution of Alaska, and you can see this not going to be our salvation to pump ANWR because ANWR contains probably not even half as much as Prudhoe Bay. And notice the small contribution that Alaska made. And that is not a bell curve for the reason I mentioned before because we had to develop the fields and they waited for the pipeline, and then it would surge through the pipeline when it was developed. So you do not see the tail getting greater and tailing off.
Thanks for the names!!!!!!
Over here.
THe assumption is that the development will be such that the calving herds will be displaced by an average of 65 killometers from their existing locations. This even though their only comparable data point was Prudhoe Bay, a much larger development of a vastly different type, in which the herds displaced 4km from development areas.
2000 acres is about 8 000 000 square meters, or about 8 square kilometers. How does an 8 square kilometer footprint, even assuming a 4km offset, push herds 63 kilometers from their breeding grounds?
Actually, reading the study is important for all. You have to understand the speculation, the misleading comparisons, and the extrapolations taken to generate the scare tactics of the anti-ANWR folks.
You think that in 1973, when this 11 million acres was set aside, that anybody had any idea of how critically important every single tiny part of this place was to the survival of our world? They were sure smart.
But somehow, in the rest of the world, we all survive while oil wells are drilled all around us and our wildlife.
And somehow we can build a huge bridge costing millions of dollars and the environmentalists aren't removing it from the budget because of all the wildlife that will no doubt be displaced.
This all presumes that we should care about a population of a subspecies that is doing just fine, simply because we doubt it's ability to adapt to a minor chance in its environment.
Nope, you're not the only one. Count me in as well... :-(
bump to 228 - names
this does it for me - never will I vote Republican again - I am totally embarrassed i voted for them this time with this Anwar fiasco - I am pissed. These idiot Republican Senators call the oil companies into question about profits - these blowhard bastards....Oil companies make a profit of 10%, roughly .25 per gallon, while government makes more, MUCH more from taxing every gallon...who the hell are they to question a private companies profits when they are perfectly happy taxing the American people into the ground on every gallon and making more $$$$ than the oil companies that run the business. Government has prevented the building of new refineries (which is why we have the oil "bottleneck" we have), they have prevented drilling in the Eastern Gulf as well as innumerable other places, and now Anwar. The party PRIMARILY responsible for our dependence on foreign oil is the GOVERNMENT, yet they question and cast blame on oil companies when the price is set in the WORLD markets...screw the republicans - it seems these guys in the Senate are so stupid as to not even know basic economics - how these jackasses get elected is beyond me, but I for one, will NEVER vote for another repub - they are a total embarrassment....and I have been a republican for my entire life - this is the last frickin' straw..give these guys the Senate, the Congress and the White House, and they haven't done squat......screw 'em....
Man, I hear you. I feel like all that stress of hoping and praying that they get elected and reelected was for nothing.
PukinDog, I sure hope you're right about what you've said.
My wife and I beat you to it. :-)
Funny...these RINO's who voted to drop the ANWR drilling from the bill are all from states whose residents would freeze to death without heating oil. (Woodstoves aren't THAT common.)
I'm sure you meant great respect.... :-)
Don't quote first term accomplishments to me. Those are in past. Those accomplishments were why Voters worked hard to increase their majority.
This new term is what counts, it is what determines if they deserve equal or greater efforts next year. And, I repeat, efforts at this point to pull out stops for them next year would be worthless. By my count we have a few small tort reform measures and one SC Justice we did the heavy lifting on to get to the Court. Bravo. I'm impressed. [sarcasm intact/]
I don't donate to the RSCC.
You can be mad at the people of your choice. I'll reserve that right to be mad at them. They are ensuring that hopes for any conservative agenda falls because the Republican Majority will fall DUE to these antics by RINO's. Their job is the protect their majority. If a member jeopardizes the whole, if a member jeopardizes electing more to their ranks, you cut that cancer out.
Useless POS's...
And which party is in control of Congress?
The STUPID party strikes again!
Actually, they do. They put a hold on every bill he has introduced so that it never gets out of committee, they redline every appropriation for his district. It's called dirty pool and effective leadership.
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