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'Intelligent Design' Wins In Kansas
CBS News ^ | 10 November 2005

Posted on 11/09/2005 4:31:43 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

(AP) Revisiting a topic that exposed Kansas to nationwide ridicule six years ago, the state Board of Education approved science standards for public schools Tuesday that cast doubt on the theory of evolution.

The board's 6-4 vote, expected for months, was a victory for intelligent design advocates who helped draft the standards. Intelligent design holds that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by a higher power.

Critics of the proposed language charged that it was an attempt to inject creationism into public schools in violation of the separation between church and state.

The board's vote is likely to heap fresh national criticism on Kansas and cause many scientists to see the state as backward. Current state standards treat evolution as well-established — a view also held by national science groups

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: antiscience; creation; crevolist; god; idiocy; idtruth; idvictory; ignoranceisstrength; intelligentdesign; kansas; schoolboard; scienceeducation
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Comment #101 Removed by Moderator

To: ARCADIA

Superstition? I think not.


102 posted on 11/09/2005 7:40:17 PM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Coyoteman

The first chapter (+ a few) in book of genesis finishes with paraphrased- "these are the generations of heaven and earth"..

The statement is fully inclusive, it describes all the generations.

I maintain that we are in the 6th day of creation and that when Christ returns we will see the end of the 6th day and it will be called GOOD and the lord will rest on the 7th day.


103 posted on 11/09/2005 7:40:40 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: aft_lizard
WHenever you would like to actually attempt my excercise again without quiting [sic] or throwing up assumptions of your own, please be my guess [sic] you have my number.

Whenever you would like to actually attempt to deal with the issue of teaching intelligent design and creationism to Kansan children in schools instead of their church of choice, without quitting or throwing up diversionary exercises of your own, please be my guest, you have my reply link.

104 posted on 11/09/2005 7:40:42 PM PST by Free as the breeze
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To: ARCADIA

Show me where I have introduced any philosophy, religion or the bible into it?


105 posted on 11/09/2005 7:40:58 PM PST by aft_lizard (I need a new tagline since Miers is done for, any help would be appreciated.)
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To: This Just In
the footprints in the limestone bed on the Paluxy River

For many years claims were made by strict creationists that human footprints or "giant man tracks" occur alongside dinosaur tracks in the limestone beds of the Paluxy River, near Glen Rose Texas. If true, such a finding would dramatically contradict the conventional geologic timetable, which holds that humans did not appear on earth until over 60 million years after the dinosaurs became extinct. However, the "man track" claims have not stood up to close scientific scrutiny, and have been abandoned even by most creationists.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy.html


106 posted on 11/09/2005 7:41:27 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Raycpa
I maintain that we are in the 6th day of creation...

No problem with your belief. Just keep it out of science classes.

108 posted on 11/09/2005 7:43:06 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: This Just In

Check this out, about halfway down the page.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp


109 posted on 11/09/2005 7:44:13 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: Free as the breeze

SO let me get this straight, I was replying to somebody else who is an evolutionist and you jumped in on my question, which had nothing to do with the topic other than it concerned evolution, and now you want me to get back into an argument we never had because you think its saving face?

The last I looked Kansas isnt offering creationism, ID to totally seperate things. If you feel that children in Kansas and the world are better to not have there knowledge expanded, then thats your loss.


110 posted on 11/09/2005 7:46:37 PM PST by aft_lizard (I need a new tagline since Miers is done for, any help would be appreciated.)
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To: Coyoteman
Coyoteman, I commend you for making an effort, and your conclusions are understandable based on what you've read.

Now grant me the same. I'm interested in your impressions after reading this article regarding "Lucy":

http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=1072
111 posted on 11/09/2005 7:47:58 PM PST by This Just In ("Those are my principles, if you don't like them, I've got others" - Groucho Marx)
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To: aft_lizard

ugghh sorry for the bad grammar and spellings.


112 posted on 11/09/2005 7:50:13 PM PST by aft_lizard (I need a new tagline since Miers is done for, any help would be appreciated.)
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To: aft_lizard

Teaching the children of Kansas so-called intelligent design is not expanding their knowledge because it steals time away from teaching evolution in the same way that teaching them about the Flying Sphaghetti Monster in their churches would take time away from their religion.


113 posted on 11/09/2005 7:53:36 PM PST by Free as the breeze
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To: js1138

Now, with your kind, concerned advice by way of AiG, are you suggesting that the findings are not true?

I appreciate your thoughtfully humorous recommendation. Or at least, I found humor in it.


114 posted on 11/09/2005 7:54:27 PM PST by This Just In ("Those are my principles, if you don't like them, I've got others" - Groucho Marx)
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To: This Just In

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/knee-joint.html


115 posted on 11/09/2005 7:55:29 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: Coyoteman

For comparative evaluation:

http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=81


116 posted on 11/09/2005 7:59:42 PM PST by This Just In ("Those are my principles, if you don't like them, I've got others" - Groucho Marx)
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To: This Just In
Now, with your kind, concerned advice by way of AiG, are you suggesting that the findings are not true?

I was just pointing out that there are some bits of nonsense that even creationists can't claim with a straight face.

117 posted on 11/09/2005 8:00:42 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: Free as the breeze

How much time do you think kids actually spend on evolution in school? Its not very much at all. So to say spending 5 minutes, an hour or two hours on ID is stealing time from evolution and that would be somehow damaging, is beyond me. Sounds to me like its Scopes in reverse.


118 posted on 11/09/2005 8:01:14 PM PST by aft_lizard (I need a new tagline since Miers is done for, any help would be appreciated.)
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To: This Just In
I will demonstrate your disinterest in facts by presenting some information.

Changing the subject, you mean. So I take it you don't plan to support your earlier list at all. Typical.

119 posted on 11/09/2005 8:01:30 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Coyoteman

Do you have a problem discussing probabilities of evolution ?


Or are you afraid such questions would undermine evolution too much?


120 posted on 11/09/2005 8:03:46 PM PST by Raycpa
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