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'Intelligent Design' Wins In Kansas
CBS News ^ | 10 November 2005

Posted on 11/09/2005 4:31:43 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

(AP) Revisiting a topic that exposed Kansas to nationwide ridicule six years ago, the state Board of Education approved science standards for public schools Tuesday that cast doubt on the theory of evolution.

The board's 6-4 vote, expected for months, was a victory for intelligent design advocates who helped draft the standards. Intelligent design holds that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by a higher power.

Critics of the proposed language charged that it was an attempt to inject creationism into public schools in violation of the separation between church and state.

The board's vote is likely to heap fresh national criticism on Kansas and cause many scientists to see the state as backward. Current state standards treat evolution as well-established — a view also held by national science groups

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: antiscience; creation; crevolist; god; idiocy; idtruth; idvictory; ignoranceisstrength; intelligentdesign; kansas; schoolboard; scienceeducation
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1 posted on 11/09/2005 4:31:43 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

So when do we schedule the next Scopes monkey trial?


2 posted on 11/09/2005 4:34:10 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Aussie Dasher

In Darby, Pa. the issue resulted in defeat of 8 out of 8 Republicans on the school board that had put ID into the science curriculum with concurrent election of 8 Dems to take their place.


3 posted on 11/09/2005 4:37:22 PM PST by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: Aussie Dasher

This is a sad day for America.


4 posted on 11/09/2005 4:39:08 PM PST by Join Or Die
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To: Join Or Die

Because somebody accepts God made the world?


5 posted on 11/09/2005 4:41:45 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Join Or Die
"This is a sad day for America."
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Yep real sad - a little competition to one theory by another- can't have that it might induce thought.
6 posted on 11/09/2005 4:42:53 PM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Unlike the first attempt back in 1999 this does not forbid school districts from teaching evolution nor does it require that they teach intelligent design. But state assessment tests will deal with intelligent design and students could score lower if they are unfamiliar with the subject. Still five members of the board are up for election in 2006 and four of them voted for the new standards. Since the standards don't go into effect until 2007 then the defeat of only two of the four that voted for it would swing the board back the other way and they could vote to drop ID from the curriculum. It's a mess.


7 posted on 11/09/2005 4:44:44 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Aussie Dasher

bump


9 posted on 11/09/2005 4:46:07 PM PST by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: ConsentofGoverned
Yep real sad - a little competition to one theory by another- can't have that it might induce thought.

The Nation of Islam used to teach that the white race was invented by black scientists in a test tube in Africa 10,000 years ago. Sounds like as good a place as any to start with in teaching Intelligent Design.

10 posted on 11/09/2005 4:47:03 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Centerfield
Anyway, I threw her plans in the rubbish bin and gave my own lecture. God created the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th. He took a rib from Adam to make woman. Many of the kids had never heard this before. I'll prob. get fired.

Or at least sent back to teaching some subject you actually know something about. P.S. Please say that you lecture isn't going to be on the test.

11 posted on 11/09/2005 4:48:24 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Centerfield

I am curious as to why you did this...could you explain?


12 posted on 11/09/2005 4:49:00 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: Aussie Dasher

I have a question...

Who is to say WHO'S version of intelligent design schools can teach?? For example, I just came back from Baton Rouge a month ago for the Red Cross and there were tons of Scientologists volunteers working in the shelter teaching that some extraterrestrial name Xenu forced Thetans here to die and their souls possess us.

As goofy as that sounds, the Scientologists have a lot of moolah and a lot of clout with certain local democratic politicians.

Are you sure you want to open this up as Science in the schools?


13 posted on 11/09/2005 4:49:39 PM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: ConsentofGoverned
a little competition to one theory by another- can't have that it might induce thought.

Lets see if you really want to "induce thought." There are about 4,400 religions in the world. Each has its own creation story (see a sample, below). Do you want to each all of these? If you teach all, and allocate 10 minutes a day, that is half the school year right there.

Or did you have something else in mind?


Norse Creation Story

In the beginning there was the void. And the void was called Ginnungagap. What does Ginnungagap mean? Yawning gap, beginning gap, gap with magical potential, mighty gap; these are a few of the educated guesses. Along with the void existed Niflheim the land of fog and ice in the north and Muspelheim the land of fire in the south. There seems to be a bit of confusion as to whether or not these existed after Ginnungagap or along side of it from the beginning.

In Niflheim was a spring called Hvergelmir from which the Elivagar (eleven rivers - Svol, Gunnthra, Fiorm, Fimbulthul, Slidr, Hrid, Sylg, Ylg, Vid, Leiptr, and Gioll) flowed. The Elivargar froze layer upon layer until it filled in the northerly portion of the gap. Concurrently the southern portion was being filled by sparks and molten material from Muspelheim.

The mix of fire and ice caused part of the Elivagar to melt forming the figures Ymir the primeval giant and the cow Audhumla. The cow's milk was Ymir's food. While Ymir slept his under arm sweat begat two frost giants, one male one female, while his two legs begat another male.

While Ymir was busy procreating Audhumla was busy eating. Her nourishment came from licking the salty ice. Her incessant licking formed the god Buri. He had a son named Bor who was the father of Odin, Vili, and Ve.

For some reason the sons of Bor decided to kill poor Ymir. His blood caused a flood which killed all of the frost giants except for two, Bergelmir and his wife, who escaped the deluge in their boat.

Odin, Vili, and Ve put Ymir's corpse into the middle of ginnungagap and created the earth and sky from it. They also created the stars, sun, and moon from sparks coming out of Muspelheim.

Finally, the brothers happened upon two logs lying on the beach and created the first two humans Ask [Ash] and Embla [vine?] from them.


14 posted on 11/09/2005 4:49:44 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Join Or Die

Sad day for American?

Good night!, how do you explained Al Franken, George Clooney, Michael Moore, and Barbara Boxer? If the theory is true, why are they de-evolving?


15 posted on 11/09/2005 4:50:20 PM PST by This Just In ("Those are my principles, if you don't like them, I've got others" - Groucho Marx)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Because somebody accepts God made the world?

Because we have placed superstition ahead of reason.
16 posted on 11/09/2005 4:50:20 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Centerfield
I'll prob. get fired.

You should be fired.

17 posted on 11/09/2005 4:52:14 PM PST by Wolfstar (Whatever happened to "These Colors Don't Run?")
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To: andysandmikesmom
I am curious as to why you did this...could you explain?

Centerfield...signed up 11-9-05. I think that he/she's yanking our chain.

18 posted on 11/09/2005 4:52:59 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: ARCADIA

FYI, what most people know about the Scopes monkey trial doesn't provide an accurate picture. Sorry I don't have the time right now, but I recall breakpoint.org had a short article explaining how the movie 'Inherit the Wind' was way off-base in depicting these events.

-- Joe


19 posted on 11/09/2005 4:53:11 PM PST by Joe Republc
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