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LIVE THREAD - California special election (props 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80)
California Secretary of State- Special Statewide Election ^ | Tuesday evening November 8th

Posted on 11/08/2005 8:20:03 PM PST by ajolympian2004

TODAY, Californians are heading to the polls to vote on several major propositions that shall dramatically affect both the political and economic future of our state.

We are following the activity and will report the results.

California Propositions

2.8% of precincts reporting as of Nov 08 08:13 PM PST

Results: http://www.sfgate.com/election/

(Excerpt) Read more at vote2005.ss.ca.gov ...


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To: ModelBreaker
I give him credit for trying. He came closer than I thought he would. But without 75, the State is doomed. And 75 was never going to pass with the money the cosa nostra was going to spend.

so lets put it on the ballot again and let them pi$$ away more millions...pretty soon the rank and file will get tired of paying for a few leaders perks and political pandering.

1,321 posted on 11/09/2005 8:00:53 AM PST by rolling_stone (Question Authority!)
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To: SmithL
And many Republicans called him a RINO and vilified him for even trying.

Wrong. Schwarzenegger was villified for being so gullible and naive to think that his star power and willingness to compromise on loads of key issues would curry him any favor in the Democrat's camp. That wasn't a plan; it was assisted suicide.

1,322 posted on 11/09/2005 8:02:59 AM PST by Prime Choice (I can open hearts and minds effortlessly. I have a hacksaw.)
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To: goldstategop

You have no say anymore. How many hours do you complain about California on this site? Then, you actually have a chance to do something, and you CHOOSE not to. Shame on you. Don't even bother to insult me...what you say means nothing.


1,323 posted on 11/09/2005 8:04:54 AM PST by Hildy
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To: NormsRevenge

Did you vote?


1,324 posted on 11/09/2005 8:08:08 AM PST by Hildy
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To: puroresu
The state's future appears pretty grim, and it affects the future of our entire nation.

Well, it can only be the future if the conservatives who pull the wagons continue to pull that wagon. However, if they hitch up and move that wagon to other states, it won't be long until judgement day arrives.

1,325 posted on 11/09/2005 8:10:18 AM PST by McGavin999 (Reporters write the Truth, Journalists write "Stories")
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To: Alia
Nice comments.

I am just a little upset this morning with the voters here in California.

Did you catch the statement by the former San Francisco mayors daughter who said that San Franciscans like to think of themselves as not being part of the United states.

Personally, I like to think that many parts of California are not part of the normal world.

San Francisco and Hollywood definitely have a French complex.

I long ago gave up on the Democrat party and California using any kind of common sense in decision making.

California's elected leaders are proof of that.

I don't think many California voters are capable of making the right decisions for themselves and their children.

Voters keep making feel good votes and it always comes back to bite them in the @$$.

On another front.

I wonder how American can possibly survive another Democrat in power.

Especially one chosen from the current inane Democrat leadership and resembling that ignorant socialists commie loving Jimmuh Carter.

I suspect a day of reckoning is coming and may be on us quicker than many think.
1,326 posted on 11/09/2005 8:10:59 AM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I moved in June to Arizona...unfortunately, alot of other Californians did as well. That's what will happen, the upper middle-class and the smart money will take their bloated real estate money and go. Only the filthy rich and the poor will remain. Good luck to them. We'll see what the future holds here. I'm still in shock that there are CA freepers who didn't even bother to vote. I'm so disgusted.


1,327 posted on 11/09/2005 8:11:22 AM PST by Hildy
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To: onyx

The Republicans let Arnold twist out in the wind. And Freepers who didn't vote can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. They should have their posting rights revoked...and I'm not kidding.


1,328 posted on 11/09/2005 8:15:37 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Torie
Turns out that conservative bias still carries amongst absentees ballots.
75 dropped 10% and 73 dropped 7%
1,329 posted on 11/09/2005 8:15:50 AM PST by TeleStraightShooter (When Frist exercises his belated Constitutional "Byrd option", Reid will have a "Nuclear Reaction".)
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To: Names Ash Housewares; Hildy

From what I see online this morning, my home town voted correctly by electing Jerry Sanders. You say you're a native. I am too, but I left this past summer. San Diego is not the town of my youth.


1,330 posted on 11/09/2005 8:16:16 AM PST by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: Hildy

Hell yeah I voted. everyone I know voted. I voted weeks ago absentee.


1,331 posted on 11/09/2005 8:17:10 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Hildy
Any California Freeper who didn't vote should be shunned.

No argument there. Hell, last night I had to spend about an hour looking for my polling place. It had been changed since the last election a year ago and was tucked away in some small, unmarked place. The wife and I drove past it three times and couldn't find it.

Finally we ended up parking and walked up and down the street to try to locate the voting place. We lucked out only because I happened to remember the numbers of the street address listed on the lavoter.net web site.

When we walked up to the building, there were no signs that typically indicate the site is a polling place. None. Not even balloons tied to a lamppost like they usually do. Hell, we didn't see any signs at all that it was a polling place until we were inside the building.

I only half-joked to the poll workers that I considered myself "almost disenfranchised" by the obvious obstacles to voting in this special election.

1,332 posted on 11/09/2005 8:17:14 AM PST by Prime Choice (I can open hearts and minds effortlessly. I have a hacksaw.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I still can't get over the fact there are people here who didn't vote.


1,333 posted on 11/09/2005 8:17:47 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy


CA FReepers didn't vote? Not even absentee?

If that's the case, they have NOTHING to complain about!
They have no place at the table.


1,334 posted on 11/09/2005 8:18:36 AM PST by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: hattend

A lot of people just voted NO on everything.


1,335 posted on 11/09/2005 8:19:48 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (Never forget what they did to Terri Schindler Schiavo!!!)
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To: Prime Choice

Let's face it, California is becoming much like Sweden or Canada. These are countries where so many people now depend on the state that it would be nearly impossible to reform them. Leftists win most elections in those places. Occasionally, the left pushes a little too far and there's a backlash against them that lasts exactly one election cycle. A "moderate" member of the opposition party gets to hold office for a term, during which not much happens. Then, the lefties get back in for another 18 or 20 years, during which they drive the nation further to the left, including enactment of the proposal that initially triggered the backlash against them.

Combine the socialism with exotic sexuality issues (as in Brave New World, where the rampant sexual immorality made people think they were "free" even as government expanded its control of them) and the state grows ever more powerful. You end up with a place where the voters endorse powerful government while simultaneously thinking they're "liberated" since teens can get abortions without parental notification.

"Red" Davis pushed California too far, and there was a backlash against him that lasted all of a few weeks, which was enough for a moderate Republican with star power to win a single election. But in retrospect Arnold was as doomed as the Swedish "conservatives" who briefly took power in the 80's after the Socialists pushed a little too far, too fast.


1,336 posted on 11/09/2005 8:19:52 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: newzjunkey

I was shocked, but pleased, that that was allowed to be published.

Lot of good it did, though.

How could people vote to NOT be told of their daughter's abortion?
I really, really do not understand it.

I think this may have been another one of those elections that people vote "No" on everything because they don't understand the props???

That's the only way I can begin to comprehend this.


1,337 posted on 11/09/2005 8:20:13 AM PST by It's me
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Figures.

Looks like the lefties pulled it off. Barely.


1,338 posted on 11/09/2005 8:20:39 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: onyx

That's what I think...some have admitted it...The thought that Warren Beatty is doing the Happy Dance this morning just eats me up.


1,339 posted on 11/09/2005 8:21:49 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy

Gotta agree with you on this one. If you didn't vote, don't complain about the outcome or criticize others.


1,340 posted on 11/09/2005 8:22:10 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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