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French Riots: Major MSM Refuses to use the "M" and "I" Word ( My title )
Omission from All major papers/news sources | 11/07/2005 | My Observation

Posted on 11/07/2005 6:53:27 AM PST by SirLinksalot

I am observing something very interesting in the news and I wonder if any of you are noticing the same thing ... the absolute ABSENCE and OMISSION in many newspapers and news media outlets ( e.g. Washington Post, New York Times, CNN and even FOX ) linking the riots to the RELIGIOUS background of the rioters.

The only ones who dare to use the word "MUSLIM" and "ISLAMIST" when observing this disturbing riots are men like Mark Steyn and the Iranian writer, Amir Taheri.

If you DO read any major media source linking this spreading "French intifada" to disaffected Muslim groups, I'd like to know.

Thus far, I HAVE SEEN NONE from any major mainstream news source.

Either they are deliberately withholding the whole news from us, or men like Steyn and Taheri are not telling the truth.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: culture; french; immigration; insurgency; islam; muslims; paris; riots; uprising
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To: Alberta's Child

Your premise of a "closed union shop" being somehow responsible for unemployment is complete malarkey. The reason those muslim immigrants cannot be employed is non compliance to cultural definitions of terms of employment.

Rather than employers putting up with dress code modifications, language barriers, and giving religous exceptions for prayer rooms and times etc, they would choose not to hire from the available so called workforce and make do with the reliable employees they now have.

And forget not. France is a complete socialist nightmare of private/public appeasement. Just the failure of French Police to stop the rioting with decisive intervention is an indication of appeasement and the unwillingness to offend a group of people. In otherwords, the French are weak and will be conquored once again because fighting is agression, and the French are peaceful.


21 posted on 11/07/2005 7:41:22 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: GOPJ

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First and foremost this is a failure of French socialism
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I agree, but there seems to be MORE than that in the underlying resentment. We seem not to dare speak its name.. I wonder why ???


22 posted on 11/07/2005 7:41:25 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: Semper Paratus

"So a few yutes went out to egg some cars and it got a little out of hand."

That's what I'm sayin'. Let the kids have some fun.


23 posted on 11/07/2005 7:44:24 AM PST by no dems (43 muscles to smile, 17 to frown, two to pull a trigger; I'm lazy and tired of smiling.)
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To: SirLinksalot

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With cries of "God is Great", bands of youths armed with whatever they could get hold of went on a rampage and forced the police to flee.
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There you go --- "God is Great", the great Allah Hu Akbar battle cry we so often hear from ... Well well, well, which part of the world ???

What does this battle cry have to do with an inability to find a job and assimilate ?

As I observe ---- Unemployment is a symptom, the cause seems to be DEEPER than that. Remember, the First World Trade Center Bombers were EMPLOYED, so were the London Bombers ( one a school teacher ).

We got to be bold and find out the REAL cause of this... Citing Unemployment is a red herring.


24 posted on 11/07/2005 7:45:53 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Muslim participation in the rioting is fifty percent or less. Because of the religious implications people tend to focus of the of levels of Arab and Muslim immigation into France, which is indeed high, but the sub-saharan African immigration is probably even higher. On some stops on the metro you might think you were on a train in South Africa rather than Paris.


25 posted on 11/07/2005 7:46:45 AM PST by Catphish
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To: SlowBoat407
Yet they have no problem associating violence here with right-wingers and Christians, even when those two principles are not involved with the whack-jobbery they're reporting.

Oh yeah.
I remember clearly white supremacists rioting, looting and burning in Cleveland a few weeks ago...

Wait...

26 posted on 11/07/2005 7:48:03 AM PST by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Catphish

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You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Muslim participation in the rioting is fifty percent or less. Because of the religious implications people tend to focus of the of levels of Arab and Muslim immigation into France, which is indeed high, but the sub-saharan African immigration is probably even higher
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What religion do these sub-Saharan African immigrants adhere to ?

SEE HERE FOR INSTANCE :

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1517216/posts


27 posted on 11/07/2005 7:49:10 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: Catphish
levels of Arab and Muslim immigation into France, which is indeed high, but the sub-saharan African immigration is probably even higher.

And on what basis do you imply that "sub-Saharan" and "muslim" are mutually exclusive?

Nice try, though.

28 posted on 11/07/2005 7:51:37 AM PST by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Mark Steyn observes thusly...




The Eurabian civil war appears to have started some years ahead of my optimistic schedule. As Thursday's edition of the Guardian reported in London: ''French youths fired at police and burned over 300 cars last night as towns around Paris experienced their worst night of violence in a week of urban unrest.''

''French youths,'' huh? You mean Pierre and Jacques and Marcel and Alphonse? Granted that most of the "youths" are technically citizens of the French Republic, it doesn't take much time in les banlieus of Paris to discover that the rioters do not think of their primary identity as ''French'': They're young men from North Africa growing ever more estranged from the broader community with each passing year and wedded ever more intensely to an assertive Muslim identity more implacable than anything you're likely to find in the Middle East. After four somnolent years, it turns out finally that there really is an explosive ''Arab street,'' but it's in Clichy-sous-Bois.



We've got to get to the bottom of the REAL underlying cause of the problem.

If it is merely economic in nature, then the solution would be to simply change economic policies so that the rioters could find jobs and provide for their families.

BUT BUT BUT ... if the underlying cause is AN ISLAMIST MINDSET that REFUSES to assimilate to the host country's culture, then we're screwed.

People don't want to talk about the later and even REFUSE to consider it BECAUSE it would entail doing something drastic ( for example, CURTAILING immigration from North Africa or Arab Countries, or DEPORTING Wahabbist Imams ).


29 posted on 11/07/2005 7:57:04 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot
Radical Muslims -- terrorists -- need to be identified for what they are...

Not all Muslims are terrorists. But in today's world all terrorists are Muslim. At least all modern day terrorists.

What the MSM doesn't 'get' is that the people feel there's a connection between the beliefs of Muslims and the violence they inflict on the rest of us. And there needs to be an open discussion about it.

I'm with the people who don't like it when there's prejudice against people because of their faith.

I don't like it when CBS looks down on Christians, or when Nazis look down on Jews or when all Muslims are painted with one brush.

But the truth is that something in the Muslim faith is encouraging this type of antisocial behavior and we need to discuss it openly. There's a place between blind hate and total silly acceptance of differences. And that place needs to be found.

30 posted on 11/07/2005 7:57:43 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: SirLinksalot
Very interesting... disaffected youths attacking Jewish businesses ( not Laotian, Cambodian, Vietnamese, Chinese businesses, which also exist near these areas ).... Why the selectivity ???

Jews are traditionally the victims of riots.

Jews have not traditionally been the rioters, even though they lived in "ethnic neighborhoods" (ghettos) and were abused much more than these mooligans.

Perhaps the mooligans are angered by the mere existence of people who have been successful despite oppression.

Great clear-headed article by Steyn. Thanks for providing the link.

31 posted on 11/07/2005 8:03:05 AM PST by syriacus (Bowling for Columbine's youthful angst + Fahrenheit 9/11's political passion = MOOLIGANism)
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To: SirLinksalot

The approved buzzword euphamism at CNN appears to be "immigrants."

It is the "immigrants" who are rioting, you see.


32 posted on 11/07/2005 8:05:07 AM PST by Skooz (If you believe Adolf Hitler was a Christian, you are a blithering idiot.)
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To: SirLinksalot
Jews make for a very handy target in a place like France. They are a very small minority with very little political influence.

Most of the damage we've seen in France over the last few weeks has been caused by Muslim youths -- burning cars that are probably owned by other Muslims.

33 posted on 11/07/2005 8:13:08 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Reid and his clowns can pout their cherry lips and put on a big show . . . ain't nobody watchin')
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To: Publius6961

Sub-Saharan Africa is pretty well divided religiously. I'm just saying that I think this is an immigration and cultural problem with a strong religious component first as opposed to strictly a problem with radical Islam. Either way, France is bound to be upended, the multi-cultural, high immigration creed is too well embedded and too incompatible with French economic and social traditions. Even this flare up won't stop the snowball from rolling down hill, and it's too late for any reactionary forces to stand in the way.


34 posted on 11/07/2005 8:15:31 AM PST by Catphish
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To: SirLinksalot

It's their favorite country.


35 posted on 11/07/2005 8:17:32 AM PST by desherwood7
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To: Alberta's Child

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Most of the damage we've seen in France over the last few weeks has been caused by Muslim youths -- burning cars that are probably owned by other Muslims.
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For what I am reading from all who post, the observation goes like this now ....

* We observe that Muslim Youths are the ones rioting.

* We observe that Not all Muslims join the riots.

* We observe that Jews ( a small French minority ) have been targeted not only in the riots, but in the past ( before the riots even happened ).

* We observe that a lot of these rioting Muslim youths are poor, unemployed and unassimilated...

* We observe that some of them seem to have been influenced by radical Islamist teachers.

Therefore....What do we conclude ???

If you were Jacques Chirac, what would be the solution ?


36 posted on 11/07/2005 8:21:07 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: o_zarkman44
Rather than employers putting up with dress code modifications, language barriers, and giving religous exceptions for prayer rooms and times etc, they would choose not to hire from the available so called workforce and make do with the reliable employees they now have.

That might be true in some cases, but France's Muslim population -- particularly the younger generations -- is largely secular. If you look at any photo of those rioters you'll notice that the picture could easily have been taken in Los Angeles or Detroit. Ironically, there seems to be very little support for these riotes among older -- and typically more religious -- Muslims in France.

37 posted on 11/07/2005 8:25:42 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Reid and his clowns can pout their cherry lips and put on a big show . . . ain't nobody watchin')
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To: SirLinksalot
If you were Jacques Chirac, what would be the solution?

If I were Jacques Chirac there wouldn't be a problem, because well-armed French citizens would have dealt with these disturbances a long time ago.

38 posted on 11/07/2005 8:26:59 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Reid and his clowns can pout their cherry lips and put on a big show . . . ain't nobody watchin')
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To: SirLinksalot

Whats new. They still call illegal aliens, "immigrants".


39 posted on 11/07/2005 8:28:58 AM PST by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: GOPJ
How ironic is it that outsourcing is one of the primary reasons why the U.S. doesn't face this kind of problem itself?

Most of the permanent underclass of the United States who would do this kind of thing are either in prison or is working in factories in China and Malaysia.

40 posted on 11/07/2005 8:29:19 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Reid and his clowns can pout their cherry lips and put on a big show . . . ain't nobody watchin')
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