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French violence hits fresh peak (1,408 vehicles burned on Sunday night)
The BBC ^ | Last Updated: Monday, 7 November 2005, 12:26 GMT | Anonymous BBC story monkey

Posted on 11/07/2005 4:38:50 AM PST by alnitak

A night of rioting in France has left 1,408 vehicles burnt out and resulted in 395 arrests - the highest tolls yet in 11 nights of unrest.

Ten policemen were injured by shots and stones when they confronted 200 rioters in the Paris suburb of Grigny, with two policemen seriously hurt.

President Jacques Chirac has said restoring order is his top priority.

French media report that a man in a coma after an attack on Friday could be the first fatality of the unrest.

Jean-Jacques Le Chenadec, 61, was reportedly struck by a hooded man in the street after he and a neighbour went to inspect damage to bins near their apartment block in the town of Stains, in the Seine-Saint-Denis region outside Paris.

His widow has been received by Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy.

Appeal to Muslims

Muslim leaders of African and Arab communities have also issued a fatwa, or religious order, against the riots.

Map of main flashpoints

"It is strictly forbidden for any Muslim... to take part in any action that strikes blindly at private or public property or that could threaten the lives of others," the fatwa by the Union of Islamic Organisations in France said.

French riots in pictures

Hundreds of cars were set on fire in different towns on Sunday night, and police had to use tear gas to disperse a club-wielding mob in Toulouse.

Unrest has gripped areas with large African and Arab communities since the deaths of two youths in the rundown Paris suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois, who were accidentally electrocuted at an electricity sub-station after reportedly fleeing police.

Mr Sarkozy's oft-cited description of urban vandals as "rabble" (racaille) a few days before the riots began is said by many to have fuelled tensions.

Reports of a police tear gas grenade hitting a mosque during the riots further inflamed feelings.

Despite the controversy over Mr Sarkozy's remarks, a CSA opinion poll published in Le Parisien at the weekend showed him with a nationwide approval rating of 57%.

Police under attack

The two police officers were injured by gunfire in what police described as an "ambush" in Grigny late on Sunday.

France has been set ablaze by the embers of a racial resentment that the Villepin government has been incapable of extinguishing

Spanish daily ABC

European press on riots Send us your views

They were taken to hospital with wounds to the leg and throat.

Police chiefs said their men were being deliberately confronted by gangs apparently intent on fighting them.

"They really shot at officers, said local police commander Bernard Franio.

"This is real, serious violence - not like the previous nights. I'm very worried because this is mounting."

In the southern city of Toulouse, police fired tear gas grenades to push back rioters and violent attacks were also reported in Marseille, Saint-Etienne and Lille.

Of the 1,408 vehicles burnt, 982 were attacked outside the Paris region as the "shock wave" from the Paris region reached the provinces, in the words of national police chief Michel Gaudin.

"The law must have the last word," Mr Chirac told reporters in his first public address on the violence on Sunday.

He promised arrest, trials and punishment for perpetrators but added that "respect for all, justice and equal opportunity," were needed to end the unrest.

Mr Chirac had faced criticism from opposition politicians for not speaking publicly about the unrest since it began on 27 October.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chirac; europe; france; insurgency; islam; paris; riots
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To: maica
Well to all secular people out there in the good old USA. This is what happens when you replace Christ inanity with secularism. If France was still a Christian nation these youths could have a religion that taught individual responsibility and kindness and helping your fellow man. But since the Church is dead in france the youths have only the Muslim faith that is "ok" to follow the religion that says kill your fellow man if he is not muslim, beat,rape and kill your women, destroy unbelievers property all in spreading the word of Allah. Secularist which would;d you chose? The human spirit craves a faith higher then themselves if Christ is outlawed another religion WILL come in and take HIS place.
121 posted on 11/07/2005 7:39:04 AM PST by unseen
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To: RouxStir
Good morning.
"There is one surefire way to put a halt to this..."

How exactly would frying these clowns put a stop to what is clearly not a spontaneous eruption of anger?

Why do so many folks here think that the people coordinating this uprising give a rat's patootie about the car burners?

This situation is only going to escalate and there is NOTHING that is going to stop it.


Michael Frazier
122 posted on 11/07/2005 7:45:53 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: elli1

This, Sir, did not come from a pellet gun.

123 posted on 11/07/2005 7:53:58 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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Why do they keep count of the cars burned and not the shops and homes?


124 posted on 11/07/2005 8:06:59 AM PST by razorback-bert
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To: alnitak
have the french started shooting mohammedans yet? If not, why not?

Islam is the enemy and the war on terror ends with the death of the last moslem

125 posted on 11/07/2005 8:09:52 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: razorback-bert
Why do they keep count of the cars burned and not the shops and homes?

Misdirection. Keeping us fixated on the trivial.

126 posted on 11/07/2005 8:11:31 AM PST by LikeLight
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To: alnitak
Wow, this insurrection must be getting significant, as the NYT actually found room this morning on the front page to place a story:


127 posted on 11/07/2005 8:11:41 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: alnitak

I'm not up on French politics... what are the roles of prime minister, interior minister and president?


128 posted on 11/07/2005 8:26:38 AM PST by Proud 2BeTexan
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To: RouxStir

Sometimes they say buckshot, sometimes they say birdshot. Big difference.


129 posted on 11/07/2005 8:30:01 AM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (The Fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the Stars, but in ourselves..)
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To: unseen

The human spirit craves a faith higher then themselves. If Christ is outlawed another religion WILL come in and take HIS place.
$$$$$$
Absolutely true. For some it is the religion of abortion, euphemistically known as "choice." For others, it is gang membership. For others, perhaps, a belief in witches...

We are fortunate that so many Americans still have a strong Christian faith, despite the war on Christianity by our public schools for the past 40 years.


130 posted on 11/07/2005 9:25:05 AM PST by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World --Frank Gaffney)
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To: Plutarch
Here is how the NYT refers to the rioters today:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/07/international/europe/07cnd-france.html?hp&ex=1131426000&en=165b4421caeda67a&ei=5094&partner=homepage

By CRAIG S. SMITH

Published: November 7, 2005

PARIS, Monday, Nov. 8

...he was beaten by a hooded youth...Jacques Chirac, who vowed to punish the rioters...rioters...the violence...stay away from areas of unrest...earlier reports of rioters firing weapons...anger among many immigrant families over joblessness and discrimination..."This is just the beginning," said Moussa Diallo, 22, a tall, unemployed French-African man...hundreds of youths were reported to have clashed...Rampaging youths have attacked the police...three firefighters were injured in clashes with young rioters...two running youths...the working-class suburbs, peopled primarily by North African and West African immigrants and their French-born children..."it's fun to set cars on fire," said Mohamed Hammouti, a 15-year-old boy...residents of some high-rise apartment blocks have been throwing steel boccie balls and improvised explosives at national riot police officers patrolling below....a firebomb factory - Six minors were arrested...arrested three youths who had called for rioting and attacks on the police on their Web sites...Though a majority of the youths committing the acts are Muslim, and of African or North African origin, the mayhem has yet to take on any ideological or religious overtones.

Then, if goes on about "young people, "youths, and mostly passive voice "bombs were thrown", "police were shot"

131 posted on 11/07/2005 9:44:13 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: OXENinFLA
modern day Moors on the attack
132 posted on 11/07/2005 10:11:17 AM PST by Deo volente (They want to eradicate us. We need to eradicate them first.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Maybe it's time the police started SHOOTING BACK!


133 posted on 11/07/2005 10:27:35 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: rfreedom4u
Looks more like a full on insurrection than a mere 'riot'.
134 posted on 11/07/2005 12:21:41 PM PST by Ashamed Canadian (America - please invade us now!!)
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To: alnitak
Eleven nights seems like a long time for spontaneous riots. Something more insidious is happening here.
135 posted on 11/07/2005 12:49:18 PM PST by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: maica
Right. What secular people fail to understand is that Christianity and possibly Buddhist and Juddism are the only peaceful religion. Muslim is not peaceful, it started with the sword and will end with the sword. The crusades where a result of the violent overthrow of
Christian holy lands by the muslims. Christians did not just for the hell of it decide to go and conquer the Middle East. It was more of a Normandy invasion i.e liberation war than a war of conquest.
136 posted on 11/07/2005 2:00:48 PM PST by unseen
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To: unseen

Ah, yes - but sadly, you will not see that comparison to a Normandy invasion in any contemporary schoolbook. Heaven forbid, to coin a phrase!


137 posted on 11/07/2005 2:55:10 PM PST by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World --Frank Gaffney)
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To: maica

I guess a new phrase for our children would be those not taught history are doomed to repeat it.


138 posted on 11/07/2005 4:26:57 PM PST by unseen
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To: rfreedom4u

"Maybe it's time the police started SHOOTING BACK!"

Right on. I had called for military intervention a week ago. But, it would have ended Chirac's career of course, to do it. What Chirac doesn't realize, it's not a question of how to keep his job, it's the manner in which he loses his job. If it were me, I'd lose my job in STYLE-- guns blazing.


139 posted on 11/08/2005 3:49:53 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Every time the court veers left, the people are overwhelmingly opposed." [Laura Ingraham])
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To: syriacus

LOL. Better hope Gunny Ermey doesn't see that!

140 posted on 11/08/2005 3:54:49 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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