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The Other Side Of Aulnay (Paris Riots)
BBC ^ | 11-6-2005 | Joseph Winter

Posted on 11/06/2005 5:10:42 PM PST by blam

The other side of Aulnay

By Joseph Winter
BBC News website, Aulnay-sous-Bois

After a week of riots during which a Renault showroom was destroyed along with the hundreds of cars inside, the Paris suburb of Aulnay-sous-Bois has become known around the world as a place of violence and poverty.

Aulnay-sous-Bois is a town of contrasts

And yet just a mile or so from where the menacing, dilapidated tower blocks have seen nightly clashes between angry youths armed with petrol bombs and the police, is the Vieux Pays (Old country) district of Aulnay which has the feel of picture-postcard France.

People walk down narrow, tree-lined streets, past quaint houses with wooden shutters and window boxes full of carefully-tended flowers to pick up their baguettes from the bakers.

Teacher Elisabeth Jallon told the BBC News website that Aulnay used to be a quiet little country town until it was swallowed up by urban sprawl in the 1960s and the tower blocks were built.

In the town's richer neighbourhoods, some understand the frustration and anger of the rioters but the patience of others ran out long ago.

"It's been a week now, it's too much. They should send in the police or even the army to stamp it right out," said one man.

"It's crazy," said another. "Aulnay used to be a beautiful town and they've wrecked it."

"All this only means our taxes will have to go up to pay for the damage," said an old woman taking her poodle for a walk.

She blamed the parents for the trouble, saying: "Where are they when their 11- and 12-year-olds are out setting cars on fire at night?"

None of them wanted to give their name for fear of reprisals.

'Separate world'

They all vehemently denied there was any racism in Aulnay but walking around the town's richer areas like Vieux Pays and especially Aulnay Sud, divided by the railway lines from the riot-hit areas, it is noticeable that there are far fewer black and Arabic faces.

There could be war - if they come to burn my car, I'll be waiting with my gun

Paul Coste

This overlap of ethnic, economic and physical divisions only makes it more difficult for the different groups who live in Aulnay to understand each other's problems and work together to solve them.

One woman said that she used to live on the "hot" estates.

"It's a different world over there - completely separate," she said.

While most of the violence - except for the burning of the Renault showroom - has been taking place on the estates, the effects are being felt across the town.

Some are now afraid to go out at night, while one man lost a day's work clearing out his garage so he could park his car there in case the trouble spreads.

The woman walking her poodle said she was worried that the firefighters and ambulance drivers would be too busy having stones thrown at them as they tried to put out the fires to attend to other emergency calls.

"I live opposite the police station and I haven't slept in the past week because of all the sirens," said another woman.

Local people have been calling for an end to the riots

Paul Coste, 52, who has lived in Aulnay all his life, had to drive around the town to find a cash machine which was still working after those near his house had been wrecked.

His 84-year-old mother lives on the estates and is too afraid to go out on her own, so he was taking her shopping - once he managed to get hold of some money.

"There could be war," he said. "If they come to burn my car, I'll be waiting with my gun."

One of the solutions he wanted was to tighten immigration control, saying it was a shame that the rioters were born in France "or they could be sent back home, where they wouldn't be allowed to cause trouble like this".

Boost for Sarkozy?

Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy has outraged many inhabitants of the estates by saying they should be "pressure-cleaned" of all the "rabble" who live there.

But such comments may go down well with a part of the electorate ahead of the 2007 elections which are already dominating French politics.

Mrs Jallon's husband, also a teacher, was not sure of the exact mathematical relationship between the numbers of cars burnt and votes for the right-wing but said the violence would definitely help candidates calling for tougher law-and-order and immigration policies.

Some young rioters in Aulnay said the violence would continue until Mr Sarkozy resigned for his insulting comments and what they see as racist policing.

It could be that on the contrary, they are actually helping his election campaign.

In an opinion poll published on Sunday, 63% of those surveyed said Mr Sarkozy had used "shocking" words but 57% still have a positive view of him.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aulnay; france; frenchmuslims; other; paris; parisriots; riots; side; thugswillbethugs

1 posted on 11/06/2005 5:10:43 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Jacques Chirac on Paris Riot: "Deport! Deport Them All!"

The Spoof Written by Willis Rodney

The Eiffel Tower moments before collapse. Rioters hijacked construction equipment to protest unsatisfactory living conditions in France. Paris, France Has every civilized country in the world simply had enough of African and Muslim immigrants? Judging by France's about-face in response to the rioting in Paris immigrant suburbs, it seems as if the world's patience has reached it's limit.

In the Seine-Saint-Denis region north of Paris where the ethnic violence has been concentrated, rampaging Muslim and African immigrant youths torched 177 vehicles, two public buses, a local school, a supermarket and a gymnasium. Between these bonfires a towering effigy was constructed to represent Satan, as youths screamed, "America the Great Devil! Chirac the Satan!" (in French) while pummelling the effigy with rocks, in following with customary Ramadan tradition.

"The law must be applied firmly and in a spirit of dialogue and respect," President Jacques Chirac told a Cabinet meeting Wednesday. "The absence of dialogue and an escalation of a lack of respect will lead to a dangerous situation."

Unfortunately, attempting to converse in a "spirit of dialogue" with gun-wielding, violent immigrants from extremist countries proved fatal to four police officers who were shot on sight, a train was also derailed in the riot, and one officer suffered injuries when a petrol bomb was thrown in his face.

Even President Chirac was near hysterics when a gang of immigrant youths carjacked a forklift, three Bobcat 1131 Skidsteers and four cranes from a nearby construction site, attached 475 gauge steel power cords to the base of the tractors and Eiffel Tower skeleton beams, and began pulling at full throttle, causing two of the iron support pillars at the base of Paris' famous landmark to break free and the entire Eiffel Tower to fall over to the side, accompanied by a spectacularly loud crash. Numerous injuries were reported by tourists who had been trapped inside the Eiffel's famous elevator when the structure fell over.

On Thursday, President Jacques Chirac called for the deportation of all rioters as well as temporarily sealing the borders against the arrival of more desititute yet ungrateful and crime-prone immigrants in an attempt to crack down on the senseless riots and violence spiraling out of control in the City of Love. "Deport! Deport! Deport! Deport 'zem all! Zey [rioting youths] are scum! If ju do not like it here, go back to Zimbabwe and Bahrain ju ingrates!" This televised outburst was followed by croissants and pinot blanc wine from the province of Alsace at an informal press hearing.

2 posted on 11/06/2005 5:13:48 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: blam

****After a week of riots during which a Renault showroom was destroyed along with the hundreds of cars inside***

I know Renaults are small cars, but how big is a showroom that will hold hundreds of them?


3 posted on 11/06/2005 5:17:08 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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if they come to burn my car, I'll be waiting with my gun.

Hell yeah!!! Mr Coste, as far as I'm concerned, today you are an honorary Texan. Welcome aboard.
4 posted on 11/06/2005 5:17:22 PM PST by notfornothing
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They let them have guns in France? Must be a popgun.


5 posted on 11/06/2005 5:29:10 PM PST by Brilliant
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"Aulnay used to be a beautiful town and they've wrecked it."
Who did you vote for?
6 posted on 11/06/2005 5:29:29 PM PST by samtheman
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To: blam
Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy has outraged many inhabitants of the estates by saying they should be "pressure-cleaned" of all the "rabble" who live there.

Keep insulting them. They need to have their egos popped.

7 posted on 11/06/2005 5:31:11 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: sgtbono2002
I think they're made by Matchbox models. How big is your living room?



8 posted on 11/06/2005 5:48:45 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Brilliant

Stupid thugs are making sure the tough-talking Sarzoky gets elected. Hehehehehe. There are other citizens in France and they are waiting for some action...Domminique???Jaques?

The worse this gets the better for Sarzoky, IMHO

'The enemy of my enemy is my friend'


9 posted on 11/06/2005 5:48:48 PM PST by austinaero
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To: blam

I'm thinking a lot of the reason for the riots is to drive out all the non-Muslims in the "estates". Once they're 100% Muslim, then they will demand more political autonomy


10 posted on 11/06/2005 5:56:54 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (I do what the voices in lazamataz's head tell me to)
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To: blam
Paul Coste, 52, who has lived in Aulnay all his life, had to drive around the town to find a cash machine which was still working after those near his house had been wrecked.

His 84-year-old mother lives on the estates and is too afraid to go out on her own, so he was taking her shopping - once he managed to get hold of some money.

"There could be war," he said. "If they come to burn my car, I'll be waiting with my gun."

You get my two thumbs up Paul!!!

Be careful however and run like hell if you do shoot someone. You'll likely be behind a rioter in court who gets a muted 2-week probation and six hours of community service for burning a car with four people inside while you get life for shooting someone that did such a thing.

11 posted on 11/06/2005 6:01:27 PM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Brilliant
They let them have guns in France? Must be a popgun.

Must be a WWII vintage gun.

12 posted on 11/06/2005 6:02:00 PM PST by Fruitbat
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To: blam
In the town's richer neighbourhoods, some understand the frustration and anger of the rioters but the patience of others ran out long ago.
. . .
None of them wanted to give their name for fear of reprisals.

That says it all - the Muzzies already OWN that place.

13 posted on 11/06/2005 6:12:49 PM PST by Oatka (Hyphenated-Americans have hyphenated-loyalties -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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---"All this only means our taxes will have to go up to pay for the damage," said an old woman taking her poodle for a walk.---

It's worse than that lady. They're going to want your tax dollars to send these thugs to college, so they can be put in positions of authority over you. Just watch!

Ever see Clockwork Orange? The droogies become police and Alex becomes a pampered celebrity.


14 posted on 11/06/2005 9:09:22 PM PST by claudiustg (Go Bush! Go Sharon!)
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