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France vows tougher security response to worsening riots (after Chirac's security meeting)
Yahoo News ^ | Nov. 6, 2005 | AFP

Posted on 11/06/2005 12:15:12 PM PST by FairOpinion

PARIS (AFP) - President Jacques Chirac said restoring public order was his government's "absolute priority," even as the worst rioting France has seen in decades broke out for the eleventh straight night.

"Those who want to sow violence of fear, they will be arrested, judged and punished," Chirac vowed.

He was speaking after chairing an emergency meeting of key ministers which, he said, "took a certain number of decisions to bolster the action of police and the courts, because today the absolute priority is restoring security and public order."

But, in a sign of defiance, arsonists set fire to cars and trash cans in the cities of Nantes, Orleans and Rennes, and youths clashed with police in the southern city of Toulouse as the meeting was ending.

Police in Toulouse said they had to use tear gas grenades to push back a mob throwing stones and bottles.

"These individuals seem to be looking for contact with police, and they are attacking us, unlike during the other nights," a senior officer told AFP.

Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin, who attended the emergency meeting with Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, Defence Minister Michele Alliot-Marie and the ministers for justice, the economy and education, said more police would be deployed where troubles flared.

There will be "a reinforcement of security forces anywhere in the country it is necessary," he said.

"We will not accept any lawless zone."

The renewed violence, which has already raged on the outskirts of Paris and most of France's other major cities, and even in the heart of the capital itself, has gone on unabated since October 27 despite the deployment of thousands of police.

More than 800 people have been arrested and 3,500 vehicles torched, mainly in the working-class, high-immigration suburbs of Paris that are at the centre of the troubles.

Most of those arrests and arson attacks occurred over the weekend. Fifty-one cars were destroyed or damaged in central Paris itself overnight Saturday, and 30 youths were arrested, many of them while they were preparing fire-bombs.

In a disturbing development, some gangs escalated the level of violence. In the western town of Evreux, 16 police and fire officers were hurt when a 200-strong crowd of youths, some armed with baseball bats, attacked their units.

Unrest has now flared in up to 200 city suburbs and towns, including Marseille, Nice, Lille, Bordeaux and Montpellier, police said.

A police chief, Frederic Aureal, said his officers were encountering an unprecedented hostility from gangs, which he described as "prepared, structured, armed".

"We have come face-to-face with people who have attacked us with picks, petanque balls, many Molotov cocktails," he said.

In a sign of organisation behind the riots, police overnight Saturday discovered a petrol-bomb factory south of the capital with 50 bottles ready for use. Ski masks were also found.

Police helicopters fitted with cameras and searchlights are being used to pursue youths who start fires then race away on scooters.

Officers have also started breaking down doors in public housing estates to get offenders.

So far, no one has been killed in the unrest, which was sparked by the electrocution deaths of two teenagers who hid in an electrical sub-station in northeastern Paris to escape a police identity check.

But at least two people have been badly burnt by Molotov cocktails: a fireman, and a handicapped woman unable to get off an ambushed bus.

A 61-year-old was also in a coma after being hit by an assailant in a public housing estate, and a South Korean female TV reporter was kicked unconscious by assailants in a northern suburb on Saturday.

Youths, in interviews, have boasted that they were intensifying the violence because of a sort of "competition" between gangs from different suburbs to get media attention.

They have also expressed anger at Sarkozy, who described delinquents in the suburbs as "rabble" and vowed to clean up crime in the neighbourhoods "with a power-hose."

The United States, Britain, Canada and Russia have all warned their citizens against travelling through some of the worst-hit areas of Paris.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: chirac; france; frenchmuslims; insurgency; intifada; jihad; parisriots; quagmire; riots; sarkozy; surrender; terrorism; uprising
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To: PeteB570

love it


41 posted on 11/06/2005 12:32:03 PM PST by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: FairOpinion
Many warn that America might be next. There's a difference.

Me and millions of others would greet rioters with a 9mm. That would tend to slow them down.

Muslims have never shown bravery or even cleverness. It's easy to attack an unsuspecting country going about its own business. The Islamic warrior's forte is to attack unarmed women and babies from ambush.

I don't believe that what is happening in France would work as well here.
42 posted on 11/06/2005 12:32:48 PM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: 11th_VA
I was criticized very heavily here for once suggesting that if the Islamofascists blew up the Eiffel Tower that perhaps the French would finally wake up to the cancer in their midst.

Now, apparently I'm not alone.

Chirac is a week too late and now many Euros short and in a much bigger hole. I'm sure the French insurance companies are thrilled with his firm leadership.

43 posted on 11/06/2005 12:33:51 PM PST by garyhope
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To: FairOpinion
They seem to desire some "Holy Martyrs".
44 posted on 11/06/2005 12:33:55 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: jveritas

Apparently Chirac is ill (I'm serious). Pray for his recovery.


45 posted on 11/06/2005 12:34:27 PM PST by Torie
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To: FairOpinion
Statement: "France vows tougher security response to worsening riots (after Chirac's security meeting)"

Response: Translation: The members of the French government shall now add stamping their feet to the here-to-fore flapping of the arms.

46 posted on 11/06/2005 12:35:07 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Chiraq is fiddling while France burns.


47 posted on 11/06/2005 12:36:10 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: FairOpinion
Well, it looks like Chirac finally realized that appeasement isn't going to work.

Anticipate a drop in "sheets" futures shortly.

48 posted on 11/06/2005 12:37:21 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: FairOpinion
Ya, sure.

Lets see what happens tonight.

I expect a government in exile similar to Charles André Joseph Marie de Gaulle this week; though they may be hiding in their chateaus in various safe haven's within what is left of their republic rather than over seas.

They will of necessity be surrounded by all their retreating police and government apparatus of course; as the suckers who elected them watch their cars and public infrastructure burn. The people who created this disaster can not shed enough fear to mollify the wrong they have done to western civilization.
49 posted on 11/06/2005 12:37:33 PM PST by mmercier (couldn't happen to nicer people)
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To: mewzilla

"Chiraq is fiddling while France burns."

OOOOOOOOOOh! That was choice!


50 posted on 11/06/2005 12:38:25 PM PST by Puckster
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To: Torie
Apparently Chirac is ill (I'm serious).

Where did you hear that?

51 posted on 11/06/2005 12:38:40 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: FairOpinion
Well, it looks like Chirac finally realized that appeasement isn't going to work.

Time to reform the Knights of Templar!

52 posted on 11/06/2005 12:39:11 PM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: FairOpinion
RELATED article:

Chirac vows order as French riots spread

"The Republic is quite determined, by definition, to be stronger than those who want to sow violence or fear," Chirac said after a special domestic security council met to respond to the latest violence in which 1,300 vehicles went up in flames.

"The law must have the last word," Chirac said in his first public comments since the riots started in the poor suburbs, noting the importance of the respect of all, the law and the equality of chances.

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Chirac still thinks that just saying that will make it so, no word on actual tough ACTs he is willing to take.

Also note,that as I said earlier, the riots entering Phase II - now they are attacking buses with people in them. For now they asked them to get off, but next time, they may just torch it with the people in it. They have already set fire to some poor woman on crutches getting off a bus -- that was a couple of days ago.

This is about today's attack on a bus:

"Signs of a fresh wave of violence emerged on Sunday evening when youths seized a bus in Saint-Etienne, in southern France, ordering passengers to get off and then torching the vehicle.

The driver and one passenger were hurt, officials said.

In Rouen, in the north, rioters pushed a burning car against a police building. No-one was hurt, police said. Cars were also burnt in the cities of Nantes, Rennes and Orleans, media said."

53 posted on 11/06/2005 12:40:24 PM PST by FairOpinion (CA Props: Vote for Reform: YES on 73-78, NO on 79 & 80, NO on Y)
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To: Torie
I heard that too, and despite that he stabbed so many times in the back we should do the humane thing and pray for his recovery as another fellow human.
54 posted on 11/06/2005 12:40:28 PM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: Torie

Chirac has been "mentally ill" for some time now -- he is delusional.


55 posted on 11/06/2005 12:42:34 PM PST by FairOpinion (CA Props: Vote for Reform: YES on 73-78, NO on 79 & 80, NO on Y)
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To: Dark Skies

I think on Fox News, or maybe somewhere else on the net, but today.


56 posted on 11/06/2005 12:47:41 PM PST by Torie
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To: FairOpinion
France vows tougher security response to worsening riots (after Chirac's security meeting)

Are they planning another 'high level' meeting now? Wow. That's scary. (YAWN)
So have they actually shot anyone?

Please let me know when they've shot a few hundred of these terrorists and stopped the Jihad. I have to take a shower now...


They should ask the Italians what to do with violent protesters. warning: graphic

57 posted on 11/06/2005 12:47:59 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Torie

Thx.


58 posted on 11/06/2005 12:48:26 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: FairOpinion
More and more France resembles a Third World war zone instead of an advanced Western country. Chiraq is basically making noises about restoring order but he'll do nothing consequential for fear of offending Muslim voters. That's all you've heard from the French elites for a week now: talk. And meanwhile the country is literally burning down around them.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

59 posted on 11/06/2005 12:51:04 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: R.W.Ratikal
Just did something the French can't, cleaned then loaded a .308 and an old 10 gauge duck gun.

Gave me a nice warm fuzzy, but the wife thinks I'm nuts.

60 posted on 11/06/2005 12:52:44 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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