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Gay bishop attacks Catholic stand (Episcopal Vicki Gene attacks the Pope)
BBC ^ | November 6, 2005 | BBC

Posted on 11/06/2005 11:31:58 AM PST by Heatseeker

The first openly gay Anglican bishop, Gene Robinson, has called for the Roman Catholic church's attitude to homosexuals to be confronted.

The Bishop of New Hampshire said the Vatican's ban on ordaining gay men was "vile", in a speech in London.

He received a standing ovation after his speech, in which he spoke of how he had faced prejudice in his role.

Some Anglican conservatives had called for the St-Martin-in-the-Fields church venue to be changed to a secular one.

Battle for soul of church

Bishop Robinson said: "We are seeing so many Roman Catholics joining the church.

"Pope Ratzinger may be the best thing that ever happened to the Episcopal Church."

He continued: "I find it so vile that they think they are going to end the child abuse scandal by throwing out homosexuals from seminaries.

"It is an act of violence that needs to be confronted."

His speech at St-Martin-in-the-Fields, in Trafalgar Square, was part of the 10th anniversary of the gay rights group Changing Attitude.

He had been asked not wear his full vestments or take part in the religious service before addressing the audience from a lectern rather than the pulpit.

"I'm here to encourage you to talk about God," he said.

"I am not here to talk about a social agenda. I am not here to grind any axes, I am here to do the thing that Christians do, that is to witness to the good of God."

'Full inclusion'

The London Diocesan Evangelical Fellowship, which includes senior lay and clergy members, had urged the Archbishop of Canterbury to move the Bishop's talk to a secular venue to prevent "damaged relations" between sections of the church.

The Bishop said his home state in the US was "the one place in the world where I am not the gay bishop - I'm just the bishop... it is a wonderful feeling".

He said homosexuals would eventually be fully welcomed in the church but warned that it may take some time.

"This is going to end with our full inclusion," he said. "We won't live to see it, but it's going to happen."

Church rift

On Thursday the New Hampshire bishop met Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, and said he wanted to help heal the rift caused by his consecration, but would not give up his post.

His conscecration two years ago attracted widespread criticism from the more conservative African and Asian sections of the church.

Changing Attitude is an organisation which calls for the Anglican Church to "fully accept, welcome and offer equality of opportunity to lesbian, gay and bisexual people".

He is due to address a congregation in Stockport later on Sunday.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: New Hampshire; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abomanation; anglican; bishop; church; churchofengland; clergyscandal; dramaqueen; episcopalian; gayhomosexual; generobinson; homosexualagenda; homosexualbishop; leviticus1822; newhampshire; queerbishop; schism; sodomite; wolfinsheepclothes
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To: Heatseeker

From the tone of Jean's little tantrum,I'd say that he hasn't "gotten any" in a while.Well fear not,Jean...I'm sure that there are plenty of bathouses in London.Make sure to bring your "I am disease free" card with ya,because in the UK,you won't get in without it.


21 posted on 11/06/2005 12:01:15 PM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: Heatseeker

Robinson is one of those maggots Ted Koppel was talking about when he said that some people think of the Ten Commandments as the Ten Suggestions. This clown is no bishop. He's just another homosexual with an agenda.


22 posted on 11/06/2005 12:03:35 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (When I was a kid, the national news media was the GOOD GUYS.)
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To: Heatseeker
On a slightly related note, looking at the "sex abuse scandal" of the RCC, it is clear that one of the real problems is that there were a number of homosexual priests who engaged in homosexual child molestation.
Unfortunately, the MSM chose to ignore this point. Child molesters are often male. Most victims are female, UNLESS the molester is a HOMOSEXUAL MALE, in which case the victim is male. Examination of the statistics leads one to assume that the perpetrators were HOMOSEXUAL priests.
23 posted on 11/06/2005 12:09:19 PM PST by yevgenie
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To: Heatseeker
That maggot makes me glad my mother left the Episcopal church 50 years ago. Some people are WAY too stupid to be ashamed. Disgusting. And from my state, too.

":^(

24 posted on 11/06/2005 12:11:44 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Heatseeker
Statement: Gay bishop attacks Catholic stand (Episcopal Vicki Gene attacks the Pope)"

Response: With the increasing homosexualization of the large Christian denominations the churchgoer might consider St. Paul's advice to the Corinthians:"... come out from among them..."

Comment: The fruits of the uncritical attitudes of "Tolerance," "forgiveness," and then adding the non-scriptual "hate the sin but not the sinner." The latter statement assuming the sin and sinner can be separated!

25 posted on 11/06/2005 12:17:07 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Heatseeker
Bishop Robinson said: "We are seeing so many Roman Catholics joining the church."

So now you add lying to your already long list of sins, Vickie???

26 posted on 11/06/2005 12:26:24 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Funny, my Catholic parish keeps growing, but that's based on actual numbers of people joining, rather than what that "bishop" thinks is happening.

On our worst day, I don't hear Catholics expressing as much frustration with Catholicism than I hear Episcopalians complaining about their church on general principles. It's really sad what he and his ilk have done to that church.


27 posted on 11/06/2005 12:33:41 PM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: bnelson44

Gene Robinson is a piece of work.


28 posted on 11/06/2005 12:37:02 PM PST by altura
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To: Heatseeker

Amen. I left to become a Methodist, but decided that I did not fit in with that bunch either. It is garbage like this that makes me proud to now be a Catholic.


29 posted on 11/06/2005 12:37:27 PM PST by Sthitch
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

After defrocking a methodist minister for her lesbian relationship (she wasn't celibate), they now turn around and reinstate her.

If homosexuality is not a sin, and adultery means nothing anymore, then why even have church? Catholic politicians and catholic citizens practice abortion and support it. They hold gambling at churches to raise money. Why even have preachers telling a congregation what they need to do to go to heaven, getting saved and being a good Christian? What the hell is church good for???

I don't get it - nope - I just don't get it. BUT - there IS the Baptist church which is just as strict as Islam is. They absolutely abhor abortion, gambling, and especially homosexuality.


30 posted on 11/06/2005 12:39:20 PM PST by SeniorMoment
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To: SeniorMoment

If the trend continues to be a Christian shall be like Rome 60 AD i.e. small groups of people meeting at night.


31 posted on 11/06/2005 12:42:25 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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32 posted on 11/06/2005 12:42:35 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (http://soapboxharry.blogspot.com/)
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To: Heatseeker

I cannot believe the attendance is even that high. The Catholic Church will certainly welcome those wise enough to leave the Episcopal nightmare.


33 posted on 11/06/2005 12:45:33 PM PST by CurlyBill (Liberals --- Aggressively spreading the "Culture of Weakness")
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To: Heatseeker

screw this ignorant bastard of a person, he is a freak show and shouldn't have any voice at all and is nothing but a waste of air


34 posted on 11/06/2005 12:58:54 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Heatseeker

stop trying to cure Aids, let it do what it is good at


35 posted on 11/06/2005 12:59:48 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Heatseeker

A man who leaves his wife and children to pair up with another man calls the RC church "vile?" Interesting.

BTW, why are liberal Episcopalians lousy at chess? They can't tell a Bishop from a Queen.


36 posted on 11/06/2005 1:24:48 PM PST by Andyman (Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.)
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To: Heatseeker

Any person leaving the Catholic Church to join a Church with a queer Bishop, the Catholics are well rid of.


37 posted on 11/06/2005 1:25:10 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: bnelson44

When you know what the turd-burglars do, "pushing an agenda" just isn't much of a leap.


38 posted on 11/06/2005 1:27:37 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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39 posted on 11/06/2005 1:27:40 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: Heatseeker

Nothing new here. Let's speak the truth, his church was invented by a king who wanted toi divorce and remarry as many times as he wanted to. When Rome said "No", he got somebody to make himthe head of his own church. With roots like these what would you expect from a queer ( their word not mine)who left his family to engage in serial sodomy with another queer ( their word not mine)?


40 posted on 11/06/2005 1:33:38 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Everything points to it so why not call them the Whigs?)
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