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French Question Loyalty of Moslem Troops
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| November 5, 2005
| James Dunnigan
Posted on 11/05/2005 5:47:00 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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Hmmmm. I head earlier read the following on Jerry Pournelle's site, in a missive from one of his readers, and was looking for verification:
The article you quote from http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/429 ("Ramadan Rioting in Europe's No-Go Areas") suggest that since the French police force is obviously overwhelmed, untrained and unequipped against a street jihad, the French PM should send in the army to stop the riots. One little detail: about 23% of the French recruits are Muslims, mostly of North-African descent (2nd or 3rd generation). Career officers are increasingly clashing with rebellious privates who want the pay, the nice uniform (works wonder on girls), but not the orders from a roumi. Cultural and religious clashes now permeate the French barrack life.
I don't think it would be wise to rely on these troublemakers to keep roumis safe from other Muslims. The French authorities know it, even if they don't dare write it in the watered down slop that passes for a free press in Paris. So nope, no army, sorry Monsieur, and the police can't protect you, so your car will burn, the buses won't circulate, stay home.
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11/05/2005 5:48:05 AM PST
by
FreedomPoster
(Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
To: FreedomPoster
Very interesting. So the French military has serious friction. Considering French attitudes, and the attitudes of Islamics, I am curious how they get along face-to-face. Of course, the riot should say something about that, too. FRegards....
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11/05/2005 5:51:47 AM PST
by
Arthur Wildfire! March
("Every time the court veers left, the people are overwhelmingly opposed." [Laura Ingraham])
To: Arthur Wildfire! March; All
I see the writer has started the "excuse" to be used by Islamic terrorists. It's all France's fault that the Muslim troops rebelled and turned on their leaders.
If we just had more understanding of the Peaceful Religion of Islam we would all be safe. (gag)
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posted on
11/05/2005 6:02:46 AM PST
by
PeteB570
(Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
To: FreedomPoster
To whomever added it, I like the "mooligans" keyword.
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11/05/2005 6:04:29 AM PST
by
FreedomPoster
(Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
To: FreedomPoster
Roumi ? That's a new one on me.
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posted on
11/05/2005 6:09:30 AM PST
by
Sam the Sham
(A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
To: Sam the Sham
I wondered about that one as well. In context, I took it as a term meaning "infidel", but perhaps not as tendicious.
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11/05/2005 6:11:39 AM PST
by
FreedomPoster
(Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
To: FreedomPoster
Way back when I went through basic training at Ft. Benning, there was a moo in our platoon. He stated that he could/would not fire on another moo since it was a sin. He had no problem with killing Jews or Christians however since allah (may he roast in pig guts) said that was ok.
He didn't make it through, recycled, but his words have always stayed with me.
We have a problem in our ranks too.
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11/05/2005 6:12:12 AM PST
by
11Bush
To: FreedomPoster
Does this mean that the French army will now surrender to its own troops?
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posted on
11/05/2005 6:14:52 AM PST
by
SIDENET
("IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!")
To: FreedomPoster
Roumi meaning perhaps a "Roman". A European. Someone speaking a Romance language.
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11/05/2005 6:16:22 AM PST
by
Sam the Sham
(A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
To: SIDENET
Interesting that most of the media I'm seeing/hearing are downplaying the Muslim angle or not mentioning it at all.
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11/05/2005 6:17:11 AM PST
by
MrLee
To: 11Bush
Hopefully it's much, much smaller. Nevertheless, I agree.
Actually, it's pretty obvious, given the fragging incident at the beginning of the war.
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11/05/2005 6:17:13 AM PST
by
FreedomPoster
(Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
To: Sam the Sham
Ah, that makes sense.
I'm certainly no linguist.
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posted on
11/05/2005 6:17:56 AM PST
by
FreedomPoster
(Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
To: FreedomPoster
Prolly the Moslems refuse to take surrender training.
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posted on
11/05/2005 6:18:59 AM PST
by
cynicom
To: FreedomPoster
What a gawd awful mess the Froggies have made for themselves.
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posted on
11/05/2005 6:20:05 AM PST
by
dennisw
(You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
To: FreedomPoster
I'm glad Mexico is a Christian nation.
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11/05/2005 6:25:04 AM PST
by
Oldeconomybuyer
(The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
To: FreedomPoster
why do the french need an army? they never use it.
To: MrLee
I've noticed the same thing. The MSM doesn't want to cast TROP in a bad light.
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posted on
11/05/2005 6:36:25 AM PST
by
SIDENET
("IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!")
To: FreedomPoster
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posted on
11/05/2005 6:42:37 AM PST
by
Bon mots
To: FreedomPoster
...Harassment of Moslem troops by Christian soldiers is common. There have been no major incidents of soldiers turned terrorists, but the abuse from paranoid soldiers, NCOs and officers might push Moslem soldiers to go bad. This is believed more likely because there are no Moslem chaplains...And, one again, we are told that the Moslem soldiers, like Moslim civilizans, are not responsible for their actions. All this is a reaction to the crushing oppression they suffer from every single day of their life.
IOW, one can do no good and one can do no evil.
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posted on
11/05/2005 6:48:05 AM PST
by
yankeedame
("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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