The Barbarians at the Gates of Paris

City Journal ^ | Autumn 2002 | Theodore Dalrymple

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[Khurkris]

Good find & post. Thanks.

[Drew68]

bump for later

[ladyinred]

Excellent article, and well worth the long read. I am wondering at what point the world is going to say enough of the leftist pc mindset that makes this kind of horror breed in our streets?

[Sam the Sham]

Remember science fiction movies of the 60's where they showed the future as people living in huge cinderblock apartment complexes ? Like Alex in Clockwork Orange going home to "Municipal Flatblock E" ?

Le Corbusier.

[SuziQ]

Well, I've never really wanted to go to Paris, but this article makes that visit even LESS likely!

[308MBR]

Did anyone get that? Allowing runaway immigration of people distinct from the culture to assuage a temporary labor shortage will produce a very real threat to the culture that allowed them to immigrate in the first place.

Now, let's ship the Mexican home, fine the doo doo out of whoever employed them while they were here and make them pay the income and social security taxes they owe the citizens of the USA

Maybe if the H1 visa program were ended, wages for scientists and engineers might rise, which would lead to more home boys and girls entering useful fields.

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Let it burn.

[Cicero]

This was one of the earliest SF films (1927):

[gitmo]

An intently disturbing article. Deserves many bumps.

[hosepipe]

Amazing.. Absolutely amazing..
I knew or "felt" it was bad in France it would have to be..
More is said between these lines than it said in this long story..

With 20 maybe 40 million mexicans in the U.S. I give us what 20 years.. Sure we are armed.. only anarchy can happen in border policys like we have.. Carter just may NOT be the worse President America has had.. in 20 years..

[justa-hairyape]

Today, France and Western Europe. Tomorrow, America.

While reading this excellent article there were sections where I experienced some deja vu. It gave me some of the same impressions I felt during the last riots within Los Angeles. The Gang problem within the US inner cities definitely has some similarities to the problems within the Zones. Looks like France has begun to experience a never ending riot.

There is one significant difference between the US and French problems. In France the zones were moved outside the progressive city states. Within the US the gangs are taking over the city states. Thus, law abiding citizens within the US have migrated away into the suburbs. Unfortunately the French may have become trapped within their progressive city states, since their suburbs have been turned into gang infested zones surrounding their cities.

[newfarm4000n]

Did anyone get that? Allowing runaway immigration of people distinct from the culture to assuage a temporary labor shortage will produce a very real threat to the culture that allowed them to immigrate in the first place. Now, let's ship the Mexican home, fine the doo doo out of whoever employed them while they were here and make them pay the income and social security taxes they owe the citizens of the USA Maybe if the H1 visa program were ended, wages for scientists and engineers might rise, which would lead to more home boys and girls entering useful fields. Your post was great until your last line ! with the dumbing down of sciences and maths and emphasis on feel good but ultimately useless subjects ( like arts!) there is absolutely no-one America has to blame for a high tech skills shortage . Do you think the average Chinese or Indian learns the basics of the economy like maths and chemistry at school or shakespeare ?

[LibertyRocks]

Thank you very much for posting this article. Very enlightening to say the least...

[Stopislamnow]

Today, America.

It's in full swing.

Learn spanish.

[Fred Nerks]

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[VOA]

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[workerbee]

Eye opening. Thanks for the post.

[Cronos]

If France falls, if Israel falls, if India falls to these barbarians, then the flood gates are jammed wide open. these are the frontier states remember. If we allow them to fall, the rest of the world is next. No matter how much the French may irritate us, WE must save them from themselves, for OUR own sake.

Christendom made the mistake earlier when they let Orthodox Syria, Coptic Egypt etc. fall to the hordes of Mad Mo. Only Spain and India survived the onslaught of these hordes. Now, the hordes are on the rise again, only now they are more desperate as their spawning grounds are mired in hopelessness and they must have new civilisations to infest.

Take India for example -- the slammies were earlier 11% of their population, now they have supposedly increased to 19% -- not through conversion. THe virus is spawning. They are the real plague, not SARS or bird flu.