Especially this one.
Posted on 11/03/2005 2:31:19 PM PST by Eurotwit
PARIS, Nov 3 (AFP) - One of France's most prominent Muslim leaders Thursday urged the state to show "respect" for his community, after a seventh night of battles between angry youths and police in high-immigration suburbs of Paris.
Speaking to faithful in the Paris mosque, Dalil Boubakeur, president of the French Council for the Muslim Religion, said Muslim immigrants deserved better than their current lot.
"Our immigrant brothers in Paris and in France must be given the conditions to live with dignity as human beings," not in "disgraceful squats", Boubakeur said, referring to the low-income suburbs where the trouble has broken out.
"This is our hope, this is our wish and is an
address to the French authorities, to (president Jacques) Chirac who is a friend to Muslims, a friend to Islam," he said.
"The community deserves respect because it is respectful, young people need to find the way back to calm, our mosques need to be respected," Boubakeur said.
The firing of a police teargas canister at a packed mosque in Clichy-sous-Bois, epicentre of the violence that has affected more than a dozen Paris suburbs since last Thursday, added to the community anger at the weekend.
France is home to Europe's largest Muslim community, estimated at around five million people.
That reminds me very much of what I say about fanatics in an essay I wrote not long ago. It can be found on my profile page. Scroll down if interested.
Burn down the host country that has opened up it's doors and it's citizens' checkbooks to you and then you turn around and want respect?? Hahahaha!
Hopefully, they'll be wiped out with extreme prejudice.
"Our immigrant brothers in Paris and in France must be given the conditions to live with dignity as human beings," not in "disgraceful squats", Boubakeur said, referring to the low-income suburbs where the trouble has broken out.
Respect us or we will burn your cities!
When their numbers grow large enough.
After France's advice to us I think they owe it to the world to appease these people. Show us all how it's done. Things should go really well after that. /sarcasm
You cannot force respect. You can force subservience.
But it's just a matter of time before al Qaeda or some other Islamofascist terror group organizes attacks on something the French care about. The angry 'teenagers' causing trouble are ripe for take-over, and it's serious. France has a generation of young Muslim males without decent jobs and with a deep sense of entitlement and wounded self esteem. Sound familiar? How about poverty stricken Palestinians? At any rate, Muslims are having more children, so at some point demographics will give them enough votes to transform the country into an Islamic theocracy and France will be lost.
What has that to do with respect? I might force you to kneel at gunpoint, but I cannot force you to respect me for doing so. Your understanding of the word is on the level of a gangbanger who will pull a gun on someone who "disses" him.
Further, this is just a rehash of the old commie statement that power proceeds from the mouth of a gun. It is false. Political power can also stem from the ability to convince enough people to agree with you. Gandhi and King had this kind of political power. Popular democracies are based on this kind of power: that which is given voluntarily.
Someone once said "the pen is mightier than the sword."
"The community deserves respect because it is respectful, young people need to find the way back to calm, our mosques need to be respected," Boubakeur said.
Let me get this straight, people are torching their own communities but want the rest of the world to give them respect?? Do I have that right?
I would like to know what these "respectful, young people" do to show their disrespect. I wonder what all the rioters would do if the police helped them just torch entire sections and let them burn? You want to burn down your living quarters, here, let us help you! Those poor youths, not feeling like they are getting their fair share of entitlements. Everyone knows that France OWES them a place to live...
Just puke!
The 80-20 rule is fine, except for one thing:
Back in the day of Irish/Armenian/Polish/Italian/Whatever immigration, those "bad" 20% may have been stealing, profiteering, whatever.
Now, that "bad" 20% has shown a willingness to engage in assymetrical warfare, hijacking planes and flying them into buildings. This is pretty new in history.
I am an American, I work with some muslims, and the few I know are...Americans. They want to make enough money to own a house, send their kids to college and pay their bills. They have my sympathy.
However, Muslims in my country, and the world in general, need to make more noise of condemnation. There is very little. And the little there is, has qualifiers attached.
You are absolutely correct in your thinking on this. There is no comparison.
Yeah, I just wonder what their living conditions were in the Arab hellhole they used to live in? There is always going back to live where you came from. I wish we could make Bush understand what he's doing to America by kissing their butts. You can't appease them. IF we're going to have trouble with them, let it be in the country that they came from.
Thank you. It was an absolutley ridiculous and repugnant comparison.
Especially this one.
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