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French Muslim leader asks for 'respect'
AFP ^ | AFP

Posted on 11/03/2005 2:31:19 PM PST by Eurotwit

PARIS, Nov 3 (AFP) - One of France's most prominent Muslim leaders Thursday urged the state to show "respect" for his community, after a seventh night of battles between angry youths and police in high-immigration suburbs of Paris.

Speaking to faithful in the Paris mosque, Dalil Boubakeur, president of the French Council for the Muslim Religion, said Muslim immigrants deserved better than their current lot.

"Our immigrant brothers in Paris and in France must be given the conditions to live with dignity as human beings," not in "disgraceful squats", Boubakeur said, referring to the low-income suburbs where the trouble has broken out.

"This is our hope, this is our wish and is an

address to the French authorities, to (president Jacques) Chirac who is a friend to Muslims, a friend to Islam," he said.

"The community deserves respect because it is respectful, young people need to find the way back to calm, our mosques need to be respected," Boubakeur said.

The firing of a police teargas canister at a packed mosque in Clichy-sous-Bois, epicentre of the violence that has affected more than a dozen Paris suburbs since last Thursday, added to the community anger at the weekend.

France is home to Europe's largest Muslim community, estimated at around five million people.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eurabia; eurotrash; insurgency; moops; parisriots; religionofpeace; uprising
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To: denydenydeny
The idea that one is already in possession of the final revealed truth, leading to an inherently superior way of life, inhibits adaptation to a technically more advanced society.

That reminds me very much of what I say about fanatics in an essay I wrote not long ago. It can be found on my profile page. Scroll down if interested.

81 posted on 11/03/2005 3:52:37 PM PST by TigersEye (When I think of you, undistracted by creations of sin and virtue, I choose to stay in love.)
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To: Eurotwit

Burn down the host country that has opened up it's doors and it's citizens' checkbooks to you and then you turn around and want respect?? Hahahaha!


82 posted on 11/03/2005 3:53:50 PM PST by Buffettfan (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: GBA
I wonder when Muslim riots will happen here in American cities?

Hopefully, they'll be wiped out with extreme prejudice.

83 posted on 11/03/2005 3:54:23 PM PST by jslade
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To: Eurotwit
"Our immigrant brothers in Paris and in France must be given the conditions to live with dignity as human beings," not in "disgraceful squats", Boubakeur said, referring to the low-income suburbs where the trouble has broken out.

Not like the “disgraceful squats” in Muslim countries.
84 posted on 11/03/2005 3:54:38 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Patrick1

Respect us or we will burn your cities!


85 posted on 11/03/2005 3:55:09 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: GBA

When their numbers grow large enough.


86 posted on 11/03/2005 3:56:27 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott

After France's advice to us I think they owe it to the world to appease these people. Show us all how it's done. Things should go really well after that. /sarcasm


87 posted on 11/03/2005 3:57:47 PM PST by TigersEye (When I think of you, undistracted by creations of sin and virtue, I choose to stay in love.)
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To: 308MBR; mmercier
As long as the basic tenet of Islam is the destruction of infidels either through conversion or physical assault in order to establish a worldwide caliphate, anyone who calls Islam a religion instead of a violent, mysogynistic, thieving and murderous cult is an idiot.

Well said and welcome to FR.
(mmercier please take note.)
88 posted on 11/03/2005 3:58:07 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: mmercier

You cannot force respect. You can force subservience.


89 posted on 11/03/2005 3:58:24 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: All
For half a second I thought I had joked too soon. Then I saw it was Scrappleface.

France to Let Rioters Govern Themselves

90 posted on 11/03/2005 4:00:33 PM PST by TigersEye (When I think of you, undistracted by creations of sin and virtue, I choose to stay in love.)
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To: Vicomte13

But it's just a matter of time before al Qaeda or some other Islamofascist terror group organizes attacks on something the French care about. The angry 'teenagers' causing trouble are ripe for take-over, and it's serious. France has a generation of young Muslim males without decent jobs and with a deep sense of entitlement and wounded self esteem. Sound familiar? How about poverty stricken Palestinians? At any rate, Muslims are having more children, so at some point demographics will give them enough votes to transform the country into an Islamic theocracy and France will be lost.


91 posted on 11/03/2005 4:05:39 PM PST by hershey
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To: mmercier
All political power stems from the capacity for violence and the willingness to use it to further ones goals

What has that to do with respect? I might force you to kneel at gunpoint, but I cannot force you to respect me for doing so. Your understanding of the word is on the level of a gangbanger who will pull a gun on someone who "disses" him.

Further, this is just a rehash of the old commie statement that power proceeds from the mouth of a gun. It is false. Political power can also stem from the ability to convince enough people to agree with you. Gandhi and King had this kind of political power. Popular democracies are based on this kind of power: that which is given voluntarily.

92 posted on 11/03/2005 4:05:57 PM PST by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: LexBaird

Someone once said "the pen is mightier than the sword."


93 posted on 11/03/2005 4:10:01 PM PST by TigersEye (When I think of you, undistracted by creations of sin and virtue, I choose to stay in love.)
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To: Eurotwit

"The community deserves respect because it is respectful, young people need to find the way back to calm, our mosques need to be respected," Boubakeur said.

Let me get this straight, people are torching their own communities but want the rest of the world to give them respect?? Do I have that right?

I would like to know what these "respectful, young people" do to show their disrespect. I wonder what all the rioters would do if the police helped them just torch entire sections and let them burn? You want to burn down your living quarters, here, let us help you! Those poor youths, not feeling like they are getting their fair share of entitlements. Everyone knows that France OWES them a place to live...

Just puke!


94 posted on 11/03/2005 4:10:28 PM PST by austinaero
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To: mmercier

The 80-20 rule is fine, except for one thing:

Back in the day of Irish/Armenian/Polish/Italian/Whatever immigration, those "bad" 20% may have been stealing, profiteering, whatever.

Now, that "bad" 20% has shown a willingness to engage in assymetrical warfare, hijacking planes and flying them into buildings. This is pretty new in history.

I am an American, I work with some muslims, and the few I know are...Americans. They want to make enough money to own a house, send their kids to college and pay their bills. They have my sympathy.

However, Muslims in my country, and the world in general, need to make more noise of condemnation. There is very little. And the little there is, has qualifiers attached.


95 posted on 11/03/2005 4:10:52 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: TigersEye

You are absolutely correct in your thinking on this. There is no comparison.


96 posted on 11/03/2005 4:16:11 PM PST by Mila
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To: Eurotwit
"Our immigrant brothers in Paris and in France must be given the conditions to live with dignity as human beings," not in "disgraceful squats", Boubakeur said, referring to the low-income suburbs where the trouble has broken out.

Yeah, I just wonder what their living conditions were in the Arab hellhole they used to live in? There is always going back to live where you came from. I wish we could make Bush understand what he's doing to America by kissing their butts. You can't appease them. IF we're going to have trouble with them, let it be in the country that they came from.

97 posted on 11/03/2005 4:16:19 PM PST by NRA2BFree (The DemonRAT Party is AKA: P.O.O.P. (Party of Obstructing Politicians)
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To: Mila

Thank you. It was an absolutley ridiculous and repugnant comparison.


98 posted on 11/03/2005 4:23:30 PM PST by TigersEye (When I think of you, undistracted by creations of sin and virtue, I choose to stay in love.)
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To: TigersEye
Someone once said "the pen is mightier than the sword."

Especially this one.

99 posted on 11/03/2005 4:27:49 PM PST by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: rlmorel
>> You cannot force respect. You can force subservience.

I beg to differ.

You give deference (respect) to a man with a bat who will smash you if you take his parking space. You are not his subservient (slave). You yield to his threat of violence unless you are willing to fight. If you fight you are not subservient until you loose.

This thread is starting to suck for me.

I yield.
100 posted on 11/03/2005 4:29:56 PM PST by mmercier (UNCLE)
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