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Forget the initial scolding in this piece and skip to the excerpt posted above...

...and tell me: ARE PIGS FLYING???

I cannot believe what Hoagland has done here, in the name of the Washington Post:

Hoagland has admitted that the whole Wilson/Plame/Niger/CIA caper was a covert CIA operation against the White House!

Granted, we at FR already know this from having read Victoria Toensing's and Zell Miller's insightful writings on this affair.

But when the Washington Post admits it, that's news! (Can Chrissy Matthews be far behind?)

The cat's out of the bag on this, I believe. Somebody wake me up if I'm dreaming!

1 posted on 11/03/2005 11:36:36 AM PST by shhrubbery!
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2 posted on 11/03/2005 11:40:38 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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Wow! Awesome! Let's see if the rest of the MSM takes this and runs...

Where's Judy Miller? ;)


3 posted on 11/03/2005 11:40:42 AM PST by mosquitobite (What we permit; we promote. ~ Mark Sanford for President!)
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Can't help but think this is the Compost trying out the old adage about catching more flies with honey rather than vinegar. I don't trust them any further than I can throw their building.


4 posted on 11/03/2005 11:41:52 AM PST by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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Someone has a strong sense that the "story" is about to break in this direction, and is jumping out in front, in order to say "see, isn't the Bush administration stupid for falling into this mess?"


5 posted on 11/03/2005 11:42:09 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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I hate to tell you this, but IMO Hoagland wrote this to be satirical (in order to try to spin away Zell Miller's column in the AJC and other such columns in the WSJ).


6 posted on 11/03/2005 11:42:14 AM PST by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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Chrissy will NOT acknowledge this at all....

because in his world, the Bush Administration is EVIL!!!


7 posted on 11/03/2005 11:44:07 AM PST by Txsleuth (I am the real TXSLEUTH...please freepmail me if you doubt it.)
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This was an attempted coup de'tat by the CIA against an American President.....Who will call it treason?


9 posted on 11/03/2005 11:44:46 AM PST by Lexington Green (''America has the watches. We have the time.'' -- Ayman Al-Zawahiri)
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I still think that one of the most interesting things about this whole affair is the silence of Porter Goss. He was much in the news earlier, lambasted by the MSM for ousting traitors. But I haven't seen or heard a word about him for the past month or so.

Wouldn't you think the MSM would be trying to interview him about Plamegate, or manufacturing some kind of story if he wouldn't cooperate?

I think Goss is a good man, and loyal to Bush. I'm hoping that he may yet have some tricks up his sleeve. Maybe the MSM was being given some rope to hang themselves with.


10 posted on 11/03/2005 11:44:51 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The spies are far better at operating in the shadows than you politicians will ever be. They have a license to dissemble.

They have a license to manipulate elections, and overthrow governments, too. They do it all the time in the third world, its what they train to do, and its what we pay them to do.

Their charter does not permit them to do this within the US itself, though. For having crossed this line, heads must roll, and for that matter, people should be prosecuted. Depending on the motive behind violating their charter, some agents should probably be jailed at Guantanamo.

13 posted on 11/03/2005 11:45:35 AM PST by marron
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What the heck is going on here?


14 posted on 11/03/2005 11:45:50 AM PST by Mo1
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LIMBAUGH has been talking this up for a good part of this hour.

This has some legs, I just have that gut feeling ...... my God - the 'Rats are so screwed, and the CIA big shots are so screwed. GW Bush has got a wild ride ahead of him and he's going to need all the support that he can get.

This Plame/Wilson - WMD - CIA - yellowcake - Iraq - etc. epposode is goona turn into a media mushroom cloud.... in the exact opposite way that the Main-Stream-Media expected!!!

This is gonna be HUGH and SERIES!!!

17 posted on 11/03/2005 11:47:53 AM PST by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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Just a quick technical note: an op-ed is not the equivalent of the newspaper itself.

It just makes you look retarded to claim that this fine opinion piece by Hoagland is the voice of the Washington Post "admitting" the CIA set up the White House.

18 posted on 11/03/2005 11:48:26 AM PST by dollar_dog
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I read the article, twice. To me it reads like a typical, liberal anti-Bush tyrade. He throws in a few juicy tidbits about the cia you wouldn't expect, but overall the article is just another hit piece on the Bush Administration.


25 posted on 11/03/2005 11:53:57 AM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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This is good. But of course an Op-Ed is Hoagland's opinion, the WaPo will say, regardless of the fact that they printed it.


26 posted on 11/03/2005 11:55:09 AM PST by RDTF
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bump


27 posted on 11/03/2005 11:55:42 AM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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>>>let the public know what you are doing. That, too, is your job.<<<

I have to admit: the Bush administration is as dumb as dirt when it comes to public relations.

Thanks to Jim Hoagland for a little candidness from the MSM.


28 posted on 11/03/2005 11:55:47 AM PST by PhilipFreneau ("The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God." -- Psalms 14:1, 53:1)
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Hmmm, will the Republicans in congress grow some balls and demand an investigation into this? I bet they will, especially since the congressional dems are not smart enough to let sleeping dogs lie.

As for Hoagland's chiding. One thing he should consider, nothing that the dems or MSM have tried have "gotten" Bush. Even with regard to the CIA, Bush has his man at the helm, and his man, by all reports, is cleaning house. The only thing that has gotten Bush is his own base.


31 posted on 11/03/2005 11:56:22 AM PST by FlipWilson
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Mr. Hoagland is, and always has been an ass.


35 posted on 11/03/2005 11:58:45 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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The CIA did NOT attempt this allll by themselves. Somebody had to initiate this and have the ability to give political cover and who better than elected members of Congress, one of which was co-president for 8 years, put a wall builder in the Pentagon that got sent on to finish it at DOJ. IMO of course.
40 posted on 11/03/2005 12:00:21 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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plant stealthy suggestions of nepotism at the CIA...

Only problem for the Dinasour Media, there is NO evidence of this. Even St Fritz was UNABLE to find any such "stealthy suggestions".

45 posted on 11/03/2005 12:03:35 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Merry Alitomas!)
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