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Reid's 'Secret Session' on Pre-War Intel Called 'Pure Stunt'
Cybercast News Service ^ | 11-01-05 | Melanie Hunter

Posted on 11/01/2005 2:38:52 PM PST by smoothsailing

Reid's 'Secret' Session on Pre-War Intel Called 'Pure Stunt'

By Melanie Hunter

CNSNews.com Senior Editor

November 01, 2005

(1st Add: Includes comments from Sen. John Rockefeller.)

(CNSNews.com) - Senate Republican leaders were incensed Tuesday at Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid's (D-Nev.) decision to hold a "secret" closed session to discuss the pre-war intelligence in the lead-up to the war in Iraq and the indictment of Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff I. Lewis Libby.

GOP leaders said they were not informed about the closed door session ahead of time like in years past.

"Every time in recent history, it has been with mutual conversation with the majority leader, and the Democratic leader, between the majority leadership and the Democratic leadership," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), who called the closed session "a pure stunt" performed by Reid and the Democratic leadership.

Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) said on occasion, the use of Senate Rule 21 allowing closed secret sessions is necessary to discuss classified information, but the Democrats' use of it in this instance is "a totally inappropriate action."

Lott said the rule is usually invoked "by prearrangement and by agreement." It happened "at least two or three times" during Lott's tenure as majority leader, he said, and "once or twice in the 80s."

"Once again it shows the Democrats use scare tactics. They have no conviction. They have no principles. They have no ideas, but this is the ultimate," said Frist. He said not only was the Democrats' use of the closed session "an affront to me personally," it was also an "affront to our leadership" and America.

Democrats said the "extraordinary move" was needed because they have been trying for a year and a half "to get an investigation by the Senate intelligence committee into the use and misuse of" pre-war intelligence.

"At its core, this is about accountability -- Congressional accountability and White House accountability," said Sen. John Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) in a statement. "Congress has a fundamental, constitutional responsibility to conduct oversight - that's what checks and balances are all about - and we have utterly failed.

"My colleagues and I have tried for two years to do our oversight work, and for two years we have been undermined, avoided, put off, and vilified by the other side. Any line of questioning that has brought us too close to the White House has been thwarted," said Rockefeller.

"At some point the majority needs to understand that we are willing to bring the Senate to a halt until they will join us in conducting the kind of investigation this situation demands," added Rockefeller. "The American people still want to know - now more than ever - why the United States went to war, whether they were misled, and whether our intelligence was misused.

"Whether these actions amount to crimes is not the litmus test for congressional oversight. [Special Counsel] Mr. [Patrick] Fitzgerald is investigating possible criminal activity by senior White House officials, and we won't and shouldn't get in the way of his work," Rockefeller said.

The closed session was an effort to focus Frist's attention on the need to conduct an independent Senate investigation, Democrats said, and Libby's indictment on charges of perjury, making false statements and obstruction of justice made such an investigation all the more necessary.

Because the GOP did not conduct such a probe, the Democrats were forced to take more drastic measures, they concluded.

"But the American people deserve to know not just whether this Administration committed crimes, but whether this Administration told the truth - the full truth, the straight story," Rockefeller said.

"And if they didn't - if they misled about the war and if they misused intelligence, then the American people need to know that the Congress will do everything in its power the make sure that it never happens again," Rockefeller concluded.

"I hope it does bring the Senate together," said Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.). He said Democrats faced a procedural challenge because the motion could have been interrupted "before a second was recognized and to go into a quorum call that could have lasted 'til Thursday."

"That was the reality. That's the procedural reality, and so we notified the Republicans a few minutes before taking the floor as to what was going to happen and move forward with Senator Reid's statement, and I second the motion," said Durbin.

But Republican Conference Chair Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) said the move was no more than a political tactic to try to settle "an old political score."

"This is pre-2004 election politics" from which "for some reason they can't move on. They can't move on to the important business at hand. They have to continue to replay the 2004 election," said Santorum.

And by calling for the "secret session," Democrats sidetracked the Senate from finishing business prior the Thanksgiving break on a deficit reduction package to control federal government spending, GOP leaders said. The move illustrates the Democrats' hatred for cutting spending, Santorum said.

"They'll go to any extent to try to avoid ... any discussion about shrinking the size of government. Being more responsible with the taxpayers' dollars is just so painful that they had to go into private session to recoup and come out again hopefully soon so we can get back to the business at hand," said Santorum.

"We see it day in, day out around here. There is no agenda, there are no solutions to problems, there's no trying to get our fiscal house in order. Whatever it is, whatever the issue is, it just keeps snapping back. This, I understand, was particularly painful - talking about shrinking this government and doing ... less with more," Santorum added.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; prewarintelligence; stunt
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To: boomop1

Daschle light and lighter.


61 posted on 11/01/2005 3:31:47 PM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick.)
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To: beyond the sea; Quilla; MNJohnnie; Joe 6-pack; CyberAnt; All
Good post.That was an excellent article with some interesting comments. Here's a link: Is Valerie Plame the new Deep Throat?
62 posted on 11/01/2005 3:34:03 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Americanwolfsbrother
Reid through quite a temper tantrum...

Through or THREW? I am confused. Or should I attend a Eubonics class?

63 posted on 11/01/2005 3:35:39 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: smoothsailing; All

http://www.sohoweeklynews.com/Book/Nightlife/andy_warhol_std.jpg


Somebody please post the picture at this link. And then give me the HTML code so I know how...

Dingy Harry Reid looks like Andy Warhol... he is such an ugly douche bag.


64 posted on 11/01/2005 3:38:07 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: smoothsailing; All

http://www.sohoweeklynews.com/Book/Nightlife/andy_warhol_std.jpg


Somebody please post the picture at this link. And then give me the HTML code so I know how...

Dingy Harry Reid looks like Andy Warhol... he is such an ugly douche bag.


65 posted on 11/01/2005 3:38:08 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: smoothsailing

Reid is such a Liar. Watch his eyes flutter when tries to be firm about the dimo position to the adoring MSM.

Phoney Bastards All.


66 posted on 11/01/2005 3:38:28 PM PST by Pompah
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To: faithincowboys
http://www.sohoweeklynews.com/Book/Nightlife/andy_warhol_std.jpg


67 posted on 11/01/2005 3:41:57 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

You rock... how do you post the image..


68 posted on 11/01/2005 3:42:55 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: Americanwolfsbrother

I'm getting tired of the asinine antics of the dems AND the Reps on everything!

But on the positive side - they more they all act like jackasses the LESS money of ours they'll waste!


69 posted on 11/01/2005 3:48:46 PM PST by soltice
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To: smoothsailing

It's a damn shame that a midget with a mug like that is the Minority Leader of the Senate-- it's an even bigger damn shame that he makes Bill Frist look like a castrated moron most days.


70 posted on 11/01/2005 3:51:33 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: MNJohnnie
Could be since I heard all about the hissy fit and nothing about the voter fraud -- though voter fraud in Detroit isn't a shock.

If the GOP really had any balls they would address this entire voting situation before the next election in '06.

71 posted on 11/01/2005 4:02:38 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: faithincowboys
Using the URL code above the pic I posted do this:

To the left of the http put <

then img src=" then to the right of jpg put " then >

Try it as a post to me. Hit preview to see if it worked then post!

72 posted on 11/01/2005 4:03:24 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Be sure to leave out the "thens" LOL!


73 posted on 11/01/2005 4:06:05 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: faithincowboys
Here is a better pic of ried in his younger days.......


74 posted on 11/01/2005 4:07:44 PM PST by tioga
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To: smoothsailing; Fred Nerks; Justanobody
As Rush has said...the Democrats are imploding!

They are furious about the nomination of Alito AND no indictment on Carl Rove. They want another investigation so they can continue to bash the President until the 2006 elections and keep spouting their lies over and over. Remember, for over a year the ENEMEDIA (AKA MSM)had Rove convicted and serving time...a done deal!

75 posted on 11/01/2005 4:07:55 PM PST by jan in Colorado ("Reid's head exploded" Cyber Liberty)
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To: tioga

LOL! He looks about the same!


76 posted on 11/01/2005 4:09:45 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: jan in Colorado
I agree. We can always beat them in what Rush calls the "marketplace of ideas".

Nevertheless, their despicable behaviour is not healthy for the country and left unchallenged and unexsposed it is dangerous.

77 posted on 11/01/2005 4:15:30 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: oh8eleven
Sorry, whine all you want but I still have you beat. Shmucky Schumer and you know who. Maybe if you had Boxer and Feinstein I could work up a little sympathy. Maybe.

Not that I'm whining about whatever, but I DO have Boxer and Feinstein. And Waters, Watson, Pelosi, Lee, Will-uh-raize-taxes (Villaraigosa)...

78 posted on 11/01/2005 4:20:25 PM PST by Christian4Bush ("A gov't big enough to give you all you want is a gov't big enough to take all you have." G.Ford)
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To: smoothsailing
The Dems know the report is coming soon, so they wanted to make a big fuss and accuse a "cover-up" and "conspiracy" because the report is going to rebuke all of their rhetoric of the last 2 years.

They are trying to set the tone for how the report is received. They would like it if the headline following the report release is "Republican Cover-up?"

The GOP really needs to stop get smart and stop playing nice with these clowns. Republicans constantly assume civility, honesty, and good faith from the Democrats, and they keep getting stung by their stunts and dirty tricks.

The GOP needs to roll up their sleeves and fight back. They should be using the power of investigation and prosecution against people like Joe Wilson, Ronnie Earle, and Harry Reid.

I think we're all getting sick of different sets of rules for Republicans and Democrats.

 
79 posted on 11/01/2005 4:26:56 PM PST by counterpunch (~ Let O'Connor Go Home! ~)
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To: counterpunch
The Dems know the report is coming soon, so they wanted to make a big fuss and accuse a "cover-up" and "conspiracy" because the report is going to rebuke all of their rhetoric of the last 2 years.

What report? Fitzgerald has no authority to issue a report.

This thing is over. Libby's all they got. They want Cheney, and they're not going to get him.

Lucy snatched the football away from Charlie Brown again.

80 posted on 11/01/2005 4:31:18 PM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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