So who did author that Senate Democrat Intel Committee memo saying to politicize all war intel against the GOP, Mr. Rockefeller?!
Posted on 11/01/2005 2:38:52 PM PST by smoothsailing
Reid's 'Secret' Session on Pre-War Intel Called 'Pure Stunt'
By Melanie Hunter
CNSNews.com Senior Editor
November 01, 2005
(1st Add: Includes comments from Sen. John Rockefeller.)
(CNSNews.com) - Senate Republican leaders were incensed Tuesday at Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid's (D-Nev.) decision to hold a "secret" closed session to discuss the pre-war intelligence in the lead-up to the war in Iraq and the indictment of Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff I. Lewis Libby.
GOP leaders said they were not informed about the closed door session ahead of time like in years past.
"Every time in recent history, it has been with mutual conversation with the majority leader, and the Democratic leader, between the majority leadership and the Democratic leadership," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), who called the closed session "a pure stunt" performed by Reid and the Democratic leadership.
Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) said on occasion, the use of Senate Rule 21 allowing closed secret sessions is necessary to discuss classified information, but the Democrats' use of it in this instance is "a totally inappropriate action."
Lott said the rule is usually invoked "by prearrangement and by agreement." It happened "at least two or three times" during Lott's tenure as majority leader, he said, and "once or twice in the 80s."
"Once again it shows the Democrats use scare tactics. They have no conviction. They have no principles. They have no ideas, but this is the ultimate," said Frist. He said not only was the Democrats' use of the closed session "an affront to me personally," it was also an "affront to our leadership" and America.
Democrats said the "extraordinary move" was needed because they have been trying for a year and a half "to get an investigation by the Senate intelligence committee into the use and misuse of" pre-war intelligence.
"At its core, this is about accountability -- Congressional accountability and White House accountability," said Sen. John Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) in a statement. "Congress has a fundamental, constitutional responsibility to conduct oversight - that's what checks and balances are all about - and we have utterly failed.
"My colleagues and I have tried for two years to do our oversight work, and for two years we have been undermined, avoided, put off, and vilified by the other side. Any line of questioning that has brought us too close to the White House has been thwarted," said Rockefeller.
"At some point the majority needs to understand that we are willing to bring the Senate to a halt until they will join us in conducting the kind of investigation this situation demands," added Rockefeller. "The American people still want to know - now more than ever - why the United States went to war, whether they were misled, and whether our intelligence was misused.
"Whether these actions amount to crimes is not the litmus test for congressional oversight. [Special Counsel] Mr. [Patrick] Fitzgerald is investigating possible criminal activity by senior White House officials, and we won't and shouldn't get in the way of his work," Rockefeller said.
The closed session was an effort to focus Frist's attention on the need to conduct an independent Senate investigation, Democrats said, and Libby's indictment on charges of perjury, making false statements and obstruction of justice made such an investigation all the more necessary.
Because the GOP did not conduct such a probe, the Democrats were forced to take more drastic measures, they concluded.
"But the American people deserve to know not just whether this Administration committed crimes, but whether this Administration told the truth - the full truth, the straight story," Rockefeller said.
"And if they didn't - if they misled about the war and if they misused intelligence, then the American people need to know that the Congress will do everything in its power the make sure that it never happens again," Rockefeller concluded.
"I hope it does bring the Senate together," said Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.). He said Democrats faced a procedural challenge because the motion could have been interrupted "before a second was recognized and to go into a quorum call that could have lasted 'til Thursday."
"That was the reality. That's the procedural reality, and so we notified the Republicans a few minutes before taking the floor as to what was going to happen and move forward with Senator Reid's statement, and I second the motion," said Durbin.
But Republican Conference Chair Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) said the move was no more than a political tactic to try to settle "an old political score."
"This is pre-2004 election politics" from which "for some reason they can't move on. They can't move on to the important business at hand. They have to continue to replay the 2004 election," said Santorum.
And by calling for the "secret session," Democrats sidetracked the Senate from finishing business prior the Thanksgiving break on a deficit reduction package to control federal government spending, GOP leaders said. The move illustrates the Democrats' hatred for cutting spending, Santorum said.
"They'll go to any extent to try to avoid ... any discussion about shrinking the size of government. Being more responsible with the taxpayers' dollars is just so painful that they had to go into private session to recoup and come out again hopefully soon so we can get back to the business at hand," said Santorum.
"We see it day in, day out around here. There is no agenda, there are no solutions to problems, there's no trying to get our fiscal house in order. Whatever it is, whatever the issue is, it just keeps snapping back. This, I understand, was particularly painful - talking about shrinking this government and doing ... less with more," Santorum added.
it was already set for phase 2 before the 9/11 commission was decided upon by the pres
Problem No. 1 for you:
If you read my post carefully, you'll notice I came here to see if what Kos reported is true. Read the whole post.
I think it's over now.
But if only the MSM and Code Pink are listening to them, will anyone else care?AWB
They can be fun to read. Anti-FReepers post there sometimes, and it's good for a few laughs for us old-timers.
You know the timing of this is interesting. Give the breaking news about extremely wide spread long term voter fraud in Detroit by the Democrat Machine could this Senatorial hissy fit just be a diversion tactic?</p>
When the Dims are done with their tantrum can someone gently remind them that they DID get that investigation? It's the same one that revealed Joe Wilson as a serial liar.
Reid's head exploded. Funny stuff.
No, the Republicans did NOT "cave" into the Democrats demand. In fact, Senator Roberts, a republican who chairs the Intellegence Committee said (on John Gibson)they were already working on this and in fact stated that they had already let the democrats know that they planned on continuing this next week on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. The republicans are irate right now and rightfully so. They themselves are saying the Democrats pulled this stunt because they are upset Rove did not get indicted last week.
Thank you.
That hasn't been determined yet. Reid is going to form a committee to see if his head did indeed explode.AWB;)
So who did author that Senate Democrat Intel Committee memo saying to politicize all war intel against the GOP, Mr. Rockefeller?!
I'm having a hard time understanding what the Democrat's are doing. This is "what are they doing" not in the "I can't believe they did that" sense , it's the "guy in boxer shorts is out in the center of the street in sub-zero wearing wearing a bucket on his head and doing the macarena." sense of the phrase.
Are they so effing stupid they don't realize that the probe turned up exactly, precisely, NOTHING? Or are they just going ahead with their original strategy because they don't have anything else to do?
BTW, related, is O'Reily taped or does he do it live? I'd like to see what he has to think about this...
" The Republicans should call them to the carpets by producing the memo that they got their hands on, which details from months ago that the Democrat strategy is to keep asking for investigations of Republicans, and if there are any indictments, to demand another investigation that goes straight to the top. What are Republicans waiting for?"
Who is this twat wad on FNC advocating that we do not need to stay the course in Iraque.
Oooo, I like it. Their 'concern' isn't real. It's all an act.
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