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Greenhouse Effect Occurred 5,000 Years Ago: Archaeologists
China View/Xinhuanet ^ | 10-31-2005

Posted on 10/31/2005 3:59:50 PM PST by blam

Greenhouse effect occurred 5,000 years ago: archaeologists

www.chinaview.cn 2005-10-31 19:10:24

JINAN, Oct. 31 (Xinhuanet) -- It is common sense nowadays that excessive carbon dioxide in the air caused by excessive lumbering leads to global greenhouse effects.

But a team of archaeologists from China and the United States is saying that the greenhouse effect started about 5,000 years ago, much earlier than people might expect.

This is the conclusion reached by a group of Chinese and US archaeologists based on research on the relics excavated from the ruins of a Neolithic site in Rizhao City, east China's Shandong Province, over the past ten years.

The joint archaeological team of experts from Shandong University and US scholars began its survey at the ruins of the ancient Liangcheng Town in suburban Rizhao in 1995, focusing on the relationship between plants and human activity.

They collected wood samples from the site and did research on 21 pieces of waterish logged timber and three pieces of charcoal. Archaeologists found that the wood excavated at the site were mostly the remains of burning or construction activities.

"Prehistoric human beings probably burned wood in cooking, lighting, molding pottery and even bronze smelting, while large quantities of relics of ancient housing facilities indicate that people of that time lumbered much to build houses," said Kuan Fengshi, head of the Archaeological Research Center of the Shandong University and a member of the excavation group.

The team also deduced that prehistoric human beings used plantsfor other purposes, such as curing diseases, making furniture or tools and feeding animals, but these plants were hardly preserved and found.

Luan concluded that the remains of plants and trees at the siteshowed that prehistoric humans had started lumbering and that the increase of carbon dioxide therefore probably started before the industrial age.

The traditional view was that human beings affected the environment little in ancient times and that it was not human beings but climate change or catastrophes that promoted or vanquished ancient cultures.

"What we have found has refuted the conception," said Luan. Enditem


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KEYWORDS: 5000; ago; archaeologists; archaeology; effect; globalwarming; globalwarmingping; greenhouse; history; occurred; years
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1 posted on 10/31/2005 3:59:50 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 10/31/2005 4:00:23 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Bush's fault.


3 posted on 10/31/2005 4:02:59 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: blam

damn bush/rove time machine!


4 posted on 10/31/2005 4:03:05 PM PST by flashbunny (Ask yourself why some posters here use the term "uber conservative" like it's some kind of slur.)
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To: blam

I'm guessing "China View" is not a MSM rag.


5 posted on 10/31/2005 4:04:56 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: blam

What effect would a worldwide Noahs Flood have on the trees? or the co2? I'm betting plenty.


6 posted on 10/31/2005 4:04:57 PM PST by BipolarBob (All Israel shall be saved.)
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To: flashbunny

So they're saying that humans back then started the greenhouse effect? Right.


7 posted on 10/31/2005 4:05:23 PM PST by headstamp
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To: blam

8 posted on 10/31/2005 4:05:45 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: blam

bump


9 posted on 10/31/2005 4:06:51 PM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: Joe 6-pack

Well they didn't use solar energy to cook those bronto burgers!


10 posted on 10/31/2005 4:10:20 PM PST by frithguild (The CIA launched a covert operation against the President when it sent Wilson to Niger)
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To: blam
Luan concluded that the remains of plants and trees at the siteshowed that prehistoric humans had started lumbering and that the increase of carbon dioxide therefore probably started before the industrial age.

LOL! What it really shows is that climate change is a natural phenomenon and was not triggered by human activity. But they don't dare state such a conclusion.

11 posted on 10/31/2005 4:12:49 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (Speaking several languages is an asset; keeping your mouth shut in one is priceless.)
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To: blam

"about 5,000 years ago"

5000 years or so... let me check my calendar to see if there were any other climatic events claimed around then...

...oh, nevermind.


12 posted on 10/31/2005 4:17:32 PM PST by kpp_kpp
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To: blam

The total human population in 5000 BC is estimated at 5 million. I wonder if prehistoric man put out lightning induced forest fires? Was volcanic activity was more or less than it is today?


13 posted on 10/31/2005 4:24:02 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: blam

The amount of co2 produced by human fires back then could hardly have caused a greenhouse effect.


14 posted on 10/31/2005 4:28:54 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: blam

If only the US had implemented the Kyoto Protocol, none of this would have ever happened! Oh wait ... 5000 years ago ... nevermind.


15 posted on 10/31/2005 4:30:47 PM PST by crusadersoldier
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"Prehistoric human beings probably burned wood in cooking, lighting, molding pottery and even bronze smelting,

Duh!

large quantities of relics of ancient housing facilities indicate that people of that time lumbered much to build houses,"

Duh!

The team also deduced that prehistoric human beings used plantsfor other purposes, such as curing diseases, making furniture or tools and feeding animals,

Duh!

16 posted on 10/31/2005 4:36:18 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Mohamophages of the world, unite!)
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To: All

It must have had something to do with their outrageous demand for petroleum or those prehistoric SUVs.

Oh, wait...


17 posted on 10/31/2005 4:37:30 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: popdonnelly
"The amount of co2 produced by human fires back then could hardly have caused a greenhouse effect."

Considering that one(1) volcano equals about a trillion camp fires I would tend to agree.

18 posted on 10/31/2005 4:45:07 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: blam
It is common sense nowadays that excessive carbon dioxide in the air caused by excessive lumbering leads to global greenhouse effects.

It is??

"Prehistoric human beings probably burned wood in cooking, lighting, molding pottery and even bronze smelting, while large quantities of relics of ancient housing facilities indicate that people of that time lumbered much to build houses," said Kuan Fengshi, head of the Archaeological Research Center of the Shandong University and a member of the excavation group.

Anyone with a lick of sense knows that one decent unfought forest fire, complete with an active volcano or two, would outdo a continent's worth of people's campfires. Environmentalism is a religion, it often makes no logical sense, and it's adherent's don't care if it doesn't.

19 posted on 10/31/2005 4:45:41 PM PST by SoDak
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"The total human population in 5000 BC is estimated at 5 million. "

75,000 years ago it was 2,000-10,000.

"Was volcanic activity was more or less than it is today?"

More, due to the continuing weight redistribution of the ice from the Ice Age. Same with tsunamis and earthquakes.

20 posted on 10/31/2005 4:49:36 PM PST by blam
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