Posted on 10/30/2005 11:07:56 PM PST by mal
In September, federal prosecutors charged illegal alien Mahmoud Maawad, 29, with wire fraud and fraudulent use of a Social Security number. But their real worry was that the Egyptian student had just ordered $3,000 in aviation materials, including DVDs entitled Ups and Downs of Takeoffs and Landings, Mental Math for Pilots, and Mastering GPS Flying. Shortly after this Julys London bombings, U.S. antiterrorism authorities arrested five Egyptian menfour of them illegal immigrantsin a Newark, New Jersey, apartment, which contained maps of the New York City subway system, train schedules, videos of city landmarks, and $8,000 in twenties and fifties. A few weeks earlier, in the sleepy town of Lodi, California, about two hours north of where I live, the FBI arrested Umer and Hamid Hayat (father and son) on immigration charges and for lying to federal agents about ties with Islamic terrorist groups in Pakistan. Officials allege that Hamid visited an al-Qaida camp in Pakistan during 2003 and 2004 for training in weapons, explosives, and hand-to-hand combat. Last autumn, authorities broke up a terrorist cell in Portland, Oregon, charging four with plotting to set up a terrorist training organization and with traveling to Afghanistan to aid al-Qaida and the Taliban.
(Excerpt) Read more at city-journal.org ...
Then you just say "No, no, Islam is a religion of Peace". Then you proceed to aim at the wrong target and expect to be rewarded for a bullseye.
All we needed to learn about the Muslim terrorists in North American, we learned in spades on 9/11.
The denial and second guessing is a case of mass hypnosis and denial.
Immigration from terrorist training, hate-mongering regimes like the Palestinian Authority, Syria, Iran, and Egypt should have ceased completely on Sept 12, 2001 and kept that way for as many years as would take to defeat these enemies of democracy and peace.
There is no benefit and extreme harm to the U.S. in taking the poor risk of more pseudostudents, who come here to teach hate on campuses and learn how to make bomb, study Western patterns of daily life so as to catch Americans offguard, and to undermine computers and Internet sites and create high tech terrorist devices.
It will require only one strike against the Homeland with massive casualties such as could be caused by a variety of weapons, not excluding viruses, to give voice to a chorus of leftists and, later, "moderates," who will call for recognition, negotiation, and accomodation with such a powerful international force.
Then is your Democracy over and done.
Then we decide to toss out the multiculturalism BS, and hold the mohammedams accountable for the speach/training/indoctrination that is perpetrated in their schools.
If we know our enemy, then we fight that enemy, and we destroy it utterly.
No, I am not exaggerating. Click the pic, go to "last," and read backwards.
If you are not informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.
ping4later
http://awesternheart.blogspot.com/2005_03_06_awesternheart_archive.html
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What's that? They're just terrorists, you say? They're not representative of Islam? Then why is one of their constituent member groups (Lashkar-e-Taiba) being defended by an official with an Australian Muslim Public Affairs Committee?
Unlike other groups, LeT is characterised by its focus entirely on military targets in the Jammu-Kashmir region. LeT have never attacked Western interests nor expressed any animosity towards Australia. In 2000, the LeT leader, Professor Hafiz Muhammad Sayyid, told reporters from the American ABC network, that LeT has no interest in fighting American since America is not fighting the Muslims and this is the ruling of the Koran. He went on to say that Lashkar-e-Taiba is engaged in fighting against the occupying Indian army in Jammu and Kashmir and is fighting for the rights of all oppressed human beings: Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist, even Hindu.
It is possible that some members of LeT have had contact with al-Qaeda, although in the same ABC interview, Professor Sayyid went to lengths to explain that LeT has no organization affiliation or tie with Usama Bin Laden and that our organization is not involved, nor has it even been involved, in any activities in America or East Africa. He went on to repudiate the methodology of al-Qaeda, saying, We condemn all acts of violence against civilians and those who commit such acts, whether Muslim or non-Muslim. Islam does not allow the killing of peaceful, innocent, unarmed civilians.
There is a clear ideological distinction between LeT and al-Qaeda. LeT, for example, have demonstrated a willingness to speak out against Muslim terrorism and extremist behaviour. On Christmas Eve, 2000, LeT issued a communiqué to their followers and supporters explicitly condemning the attacks on Indonesias Christian minority that were taking place at the time. Abu Umar, the groups Director of Foreign Affairs, wrote, These bombings are a horrific and inhuman assault on innocent civilians who gathered solely for the sake of worship. Rebuking those who carried out the attacks, he wrote, the goal of the criminals who carried out these attacks was to tarnish the religion of Islam and cause the further deterioration of relations between Muslims and Christians. Whoever they are, the bombers are doing the work of the enemies of Islam. This funny fellow would like us to believe that the same organization that prints a map showing a world conquered by Islam has no interest in attacking the west, and its secular, democratic traditions.
Perhaps they imagine we will just join them out of love for their peaceful, tolerant ways.
Or, more likely, given the mood of the nation on this issue, the declaration that islam is inconsistant with human life, and is stripped of its status as a "religion". It is then banned, expelled, forbidden, and deported. Convert or leave. You have one year.
The idea that you can grant the protection of "religion" to anything as savage as Islam has to be discredited. Sadly, it will probably take something massive to do this.
Sooner or later either islam changes, or islam disappears.
If Detroit no longer exists apart from a glowing core, and Al Quaida, says "You have one day or we waste another city" what then will we do?
I am not arguing timing here but the absence of universal will and iron indifference to hundreds of thousands of casualties which will be necessary to resist the appeasers on the left in the wake of such a strike. Good luck convincing America's mothers that their children should be exposed and sacririced for abstractions of democracy. Ain't gonna happen.
You underestimate American Mothers. My mother was a better shot than my dad. See if you can even convince the leftist mothers of NYC to surrender. Not after 9/11.
You sir, are a defeatist. Be gone.
Bugger off
An Islamist wants to kill you.
A Muslim merely wants you dead.
If they had to lay waste to somewhere...why Detroit? I'd probably wonder if they were going to go after our second crappiest city next...
The governmnet should long ago have banned all visas to Muslims except under very special diplomatic circumstances, and began deporting all non-citizens Muslims.
All the rest,together with their mosques and madrasshes should be under intense scrutiny and continual monitoring.
The death of every islamic man. woman, child, cat,dog, goat etc on the face of the earth. Starting with nukes over mecca, medina, and all the muslim capitals and cities over 50,000 in population. We should have done this on 9/12.
Then declare open season on moslems. No bag limit. and eradicate the plague from this planet.
The sad truth is that you can't trust a moslem even after they convert because tehir religion commands them to lie.
To be moslem is to be terrorist.
Start by rousting octogenarians at airports..
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