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Scientist: Comets Blasted Early Americans
ap on Yahoo ^ | 10/28/05 | Meg Kinnard - ap

Posted on 10/28/2005 6:33:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

COLUMBIA, S.C. - A supernova could be the "quick and dirty" explanation for what may have happened to an early North American culture, a nuclear scientist here said Thursday.

Richard Firestone said at the "Clovis in the Southeast" conference that he thinks "impact regions" on mammoth tusks found in Gainey, Mich., were caused by magnetic particles rich in elements like titanium and uranium. This composition, the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory scientist said, resembles rocks that were discovered on the moon and have also been found in lunar meteorites that fell to Earth about 10,000 years ago.

Firestone said that, based on his discovery of similar material at Clovis sites, he estimates that comets struck the solar system during the Clovis period, which was roughly 13,000 years ago. These comets would have hit the Earth at 1,000 kilometers an hour, he said, obliterating many life forms and causing mutations in others.

"I'm not going to tell you that there's Clovis people on the moon, or that they had a space program," Firestone said. But these particles look "very much like the material that comes from the moon, which is the only place we've found with this same high titanium concentration."

Amateur archaeologist Richard Callaway said he was surprised by Firestone's theory.

"I've always considered myself a pretty open-minded person," Callaway said, while browsing some of the artifacts on display at the conference. "And it's kind of shocking to hear that something from the solar system could have done something like this."

Callaway, an Episcopal priest from Atlanta, said that he and his wife have volunteered at the Topper site in Allendale County for the past two summers.

"To be a part of this ... and find something no human being has touched in 15,000 years — that's something," Callaway said. "That's what I like about what we do. You don't find the next answer. You find the next question."

Earlier Thursday, University of South Carolina archaeologist Al Goodyear lectured on his discoveries at Topper, where he says he has found evidence that man existed in North America much earlier than previously thought. Goodyear showed slides of the many tools he has recovered from Topper, as well as a charcoal strip he discovered in soil two meters beneath a 16,000-year-old level of the site.

"Topper's like a box of chocolates," Goodyear said. "Every time we dig a hole, something new comes up."

As the final event of the four-day conference, partially sponsored by USC, Goodyear will lead attendees on a visit to Topper on Saturday.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: americans; archaeology; blasted; catastrophism; clovis; clovisimpact; comets; early; godsgravesglyphs; goodyear; history; impact; scientist; stuffhappens; topper
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To: drlevy88
Disaster That Struck The Ancients
21 posted on 10/29/2005 3:47:58 PM PDT by blam
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To: drlevy88
Did Asteroids And Comets Turn The Tides Of Civilization?
22 posted on 10/29/2005 3:49:43 PM PDT by blam
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To: drlevy88
Evidence Of Major Impact Events In The Late 3rd Millenium BC
23 posted on 10/29/2005 3:52:25 PM PDT by blam
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To: neal1960
Another good reason to be a Clemson Tiger fan.

But I wish the Clemson Tigers would give us a few reasons too! A frustrating season that held so much potential.

Able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
24 posted on 10/29/2005 7:54:47 PM PDT by NonLinear (He's dead, Jim)
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To: de Buillion

Sorry I missed that requirement. I have read all of IV's books they are very interesting.


25 posted on 10/29/2005 8:11:03 PM PDT by redangus
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To: NormsRevenge

btt


26 posted on 10/29/2005 8:13:41 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: blam; NormsRevenge; redangus; de Buillion

Thanks for the ping, Blam.

NR, I'm right behind Blam in enjoying a good old fashioned catastrophe.

redangus, debuillion, glad to meet ya. :')


27 posted on 10/29/2005 8:40:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; StayAt HomeMother; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; asp1; ...
Thanks Blam. Buncha Americans got blasted, so what's the big deal? ;')

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on or off the
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28 posted on 10/29/2005 8:46:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

LOL.. I got ya covered re: catastrophes, etc. ;-)


29 posted on 10/29/2005 9:07:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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of course, the most important related topic is...

Loss of Musk Ox Genetic Diversity at the Pleistocene-Holocene Transition
BioMed Central via Eureka Alert | 5-Oct-2005 | Juliette Savin
Posted on 10/10/2005 5:13:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1500172/posts

impacts, recent and not so much...

A Celestial Collision
Alaska Science Forum | February 10, 1983 | Larry Gedney
Posted on 09/15/2004 9:04:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1216757/posts
Lake Michigan Impact in 1919:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1216757/posts?page=3#3

Giordano Bruno, the June 1975 Meteoroid Storm, Encke, and Other Taurid Complex Objects
Icarus (Volume 104, Issue 2 , pp 280-290) | August 1993 | Jack B. Hartung
Posted on 12/27/2004 2:37:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1309198/posts

Small Asteroid Passes Between Satellites and Earth
Space dot com | 22 December 2004 | Robert Roy Britt
Posted on 12/23/2004 7:36:30 AM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1307286/posts

Cosmic Hole-in-One Captured Over Antarctica
RedNova | Monday, 5 September 2005, 20:43 CDT | staff / press release
Posted on 09/05/2005 9:36:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1478231/posts

Giant asteroid rocked Antarctica
Near Earth Object Information Centre | 8/20/2004 | staff
Posted on 10/17/2004 9:26:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1248406/posts

Grains Found in Ga. Traced to Asteroid
Yahoo / AP | August 24 2004 | editors
Posted on 08/24/2004 11:32:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1198414/posts

The Hazard of Near-Earth Asteroid Impacts on Earth
Frontiers | 4 March 2004 | Clark R. Chapman
Posted on 12/02/2004 10:51:16 AM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1292915/posts


30 posted on 10/29/2005 9:43:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: Grut
Incoherent reporting.

LOL. I did a quick reading, which is usually sufficient, and then thought, "I have no idea what these people are talking about." Then I scrolled down and found your comment. Most reassuring, to know that when I am not grasping something it is still almost certainly somebody else's fault. :O)

31 posted on 10/29/2005 9:44:57 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: NormsRevenge; blam

Wait a minute... Firestone and Goodyear?

Thanks for posting it, and thanks again to Blam for the ping. It's unusually coherent and lucid, and while I'd disagree with Firestone's suggestion of the cause (supernova), as said before, I enjoy a good catastrophe.


32 posted on 10/29/2005 9:50:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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earlier topics, same Richard Firestone, different sources:

Supernova Storm Wiped Out Mammoths?
Discovery News | 09/28/05 | Jennifer Viegas
Posted on 10/04/2005 11:47:27 PM PDT by planetesimal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1496844/posts

Supernova Storm Wiped Out Mammoths?
Discovery News | Sept. 28, 2005 | Jennifer Viegas
Posted on 10/17/2005 8:57:32 AM PDT by Fzob
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1503957/posts

sidebar:

Supernova debris found on Earth
NEWS@NATURE.COM | 02 November 2004 | Mark Peplow
Posted on 11/24/2004 1:22:08 PM PST by Phsstpok
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287848/posts

(I guess Peplow never heard of the Eltanin impact?)


33 posted on 10/29/2005 9:55:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: feedback doctor
Didn't realize they'd been around that long.


34 posted on 10/29/2005 9:55:51 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: SunkenCiv
"It's unusually coherent and lucid, and while I'd disagree with Firestone's suggestion of the cause (supernova)."

I liked it because of it's fit with the end of the Ice Age.

Let me see...I have an article around her somewhere by Michelin, he says that...

35 posted on 10/29/2005 11:53:07 PM PDT by blam
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To: redangus
"Sorry I missed that requirement. I have read all of IV's books they are very interesting. "

I read "Ages In Chaos', "Worlds In Collision", and "Earth in Upheaval", (I believe). Were there any more?

I believe that much of what Velikovsky predicted has been proven, despite Carl Sagan's desperate and disingenuous attempt to silence him

36 posted on 10/30/2005 12:15:57 AM PDT by de Buillion (Perspective: 2000 dead Heroes in 3 +yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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To: NormsRevenge

One speaker named Firestone, and another speaker named Goodyear. Hmmmm......


37 posted on 10/30/2005 12:43:40 AM PDT by Wampus SC (Serf City here we come!)
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To: blam
Let me see...I have an article around her somewhere by Michelin, he says that...

I'm going to wait and see what Prof. Pirelli has to say. His theories are always highly provacative. Well worth hours of study to get every jot and tittle.

38 posted on 10/30/2005 5:41:39 AM PST by Snake65 (Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun!)
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To: Jessarah
I thought they were finally going to tell us what happened to Virginia Dare and the lost colony.

I'm convinced that they moved westward and became the ancestors of the Melungeons. (http://www.melungeon.org/?BISKIT=2772535491&CONTEXT=cat&cat=10005)

39 posted on 10/30/2005 9:14:08 PM PST by BostonianRightist (I looted New Orleans and all I got was 40 of these lousy taglines.)
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Catastrophism

40 posted on 05/09/2006 9:17:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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