Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Transcript of Miers 14 page 1993 speech to Executive Women of Dallas (pdf format)
Washington Post ^ | 1993 | Harriet Miers

Posted on 10/26/2005 7:54:50 PM PDT by USAConstitution

...when you hear the Courts blamed for activism or intrusion where they do not belong...Stop and examine what the elected leadership has done to solve the problem at issue and whether abdication to courts to make the hard decisions is a not too prevalent tactic in today's world....

Where else do we hear a lot today about the Courts.[sic] The law and religion... Abortion clinic protestors have become synonymous with terrorists and the courts have been the refuge for the besieged... The ongoing debate continues surrounding the attempt to once again criminalize abortions or to once and for all guarantee the freedom of the individual women's right to decide for herself whether she will have an abortion. Questions about what can be taught or done in public places or public schools are presented frequently to the courts.

The law and religion make for interesting mixture but the mixture tends to evoke the strongest of emotions. The underlying theme in most of these case is the insistence of more self-determination. And the more I think about these issues, the more self-determination makes the most sense. Legislating religion or morality we gave up on a long time ago. Remembering that fact appears to offer the most effective solutions to these problems once the easier cases are disposed of... Where science determines the facts, the law can effectively govern. However, when science cannot determine the facts and decisions vary based upon religious belief, then government should not act...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: harrietmiers; miers; scotus
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 121-140141-160161-180 ... 241-259 next last
To: oceanview

"its going to be interesting to see how this plays out."

I hope I'm wrong, but I've got a sinking feeling that this is Bush's "read my lips" moment, no matter how it turns out. That's why I'm so adamant that some lasting good comes out of all the effort. Jones, Brown, Luttig or McConnell, any one of the four, would work out fine in my estimation. But, certainly not Miers. God only knows what opinions she'd begin to take, once out from under having to please this particular boss.


141 posted on 10/26/2005 9:08:26 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 131 | View Replies]

To: af_vet_1981
Abortion is one of the least of my concerns because it is still voluntary.

It isn't the least of my concerns. Insensitivity to the value and worth of helpless innocent life is a huge red flag that puts all other red flags in its shadow.

Miers' supposed solidarity with the pro-life worldview was Bush's chief selling point for this nomination.

If abortion is Miers' strong point, this nomination threatens to set new standards for SCOTUS disasters.

142 posted on 10/26/2005 9:09:50 PM PDT by JCEccles
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 134 | View Replies]

To: USPatriette
Problem with that interpretation is the following sentences would make no sense. The following statements only make sense in the context of the plain reading of the comment.
143 posted on 10/26/2005 9:10:07 PM PDT by ALWAYSWELDING
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Yossarian

Actually, exhibit A was his believing certain of his advisors that the war in Iraq would be a cakewalk and that Iraqis would come cheering to greet the troops, ending a quick war with a long love-fest.


144 posted on 10/26/2005 9:11:02 PM PDT by Agrarian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 88 | View Replies]

To: Cboldt
Same way the GOP lays down to a DEM obstructionist minority when it comes to advise & consent in the Senate. The politicians support status quo.

That is exactly what Meirs said.. what is the problem? I believe we are in some kind of a feeding frenzy, that may have been started by some real concern, but I also believe it is being stirred up by DU lurkers, and I don't like the way it is going down..

I haven't made up my mind yet either because I am watching and reading everything, but this thread is just one more example of the misinformation BS that has been dominating the discussion..

145 posted on 10/26/2005 9:11:10 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 136 | View Replies]

To: USAConstitution

Your thread title is an insult to people that would like to read the speech and form an opinion based on what she said. Not some snippet to incite a riot against Miers.

Your graphic is an excellent representation of yourself.


146 posted on 10/26/2005 9:13:28 PM PDT by Registered (They couldn't find the artist, so they hung the picture)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

I just checked to correlate the timing of this speech with her conversion. The speech is WAY post-conversion.

While the rest of the country debates the merits of Miss Miers' judicial qualifications, her Christian friends and confidants says she is a solid believer who, like President Bush, had a religious conversion in her 30s.

This was in June 1979. Within a few days of her decision, she was baptized at Valley View Christian Church, a conservative Protestant congregation in north Dallas with 1,200 members. The church is not affiliated with the similarly named Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), a liberal mainline denomination.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20051005-122400-8922r.htm


147 posted on 10/26/2005 9:14:18 PM PDT by Cboldt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 137 | View Replies]

To: USAConstitution

Hold on, now. Was this written before or after she was 'saved' and became a member of an evangelical church?

VERY important question.


148 posted on 10/26/2005 9:15:19 PM PDT by RightOnline
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Registered

Like it or not it is the stand-out line of the speech. Making that line the title of the thread is fair, imho.


149 posted on 10/26/2005 9:16:36 PM PDT by Yossarian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 146 | View Replies]

To: Texas Federalist
She didn't return her questionnaire by the 6pm deadline today.

The WH asked for extensions to 7 PM and 8 PM. I don't know whether or not the Judiciary Committee would release the supplemental today, and it may well have been submitted by the 8 PM deadline. I suspect that even if it's not tendered until tomorrrow, the Senators won't make the timing an issue - nor should they, IMO.

The substance, OTOH, deserves all the steely-eyed criticism it gets.

150 posted on 10/26/2005 9:17:25 PM PDT by Cboldt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 135 | View Replies]

To: RightOnline

see #147


151 posted on 10/26/2005 9:18:21 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 148 | View Replies]

To: isrul
Would the term "unprincipled opportunist" be too strong?

Maybe. "Opportunist" alone conveys the point. "Principled opportunist" is a bit of an oxymoron.

152 posted on 10/26/2005 9:18:40 PM PDT by Cboldt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 139 | View Replies]

To: phelanw
PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeee.. That is a streach even for this topic.. How can it be any worse for OUR PRESIDENT then being called a jerk, idiot and a sneak by his own party LOYALIST.. Give me a friggin break.. What are you afraid of allowing this nominee to get to say her piece?.. REALLY?

Everyone on the offensive, doubting Bush will choose a real winner knowing that his only real legacy, the future Supreme court, is riding on his word re: Meirs.. He hasn't given us any bad nominees yet, most of his new detractors are begging him to pick one of his most resent choices that he has placed on the court.. GET IT?

153 posted on 10/26/2005 9:20:08 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 128 | View Replies]

To: carlo3b
That is exactly what Meirs said.. what is the problem?

The problem is that Miers says the Courts should act to fill the gaps left by the legislature. THAT is the epitome of judicial activism.

154 posted on 10/26/2005 9:20:18 PM PDT by Cboldt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 145 | View Replies]

To: af_vet_1981
I always wanted to go over Niagara Falls in a barrel.

LOL. I like your gallows humor.

155 posted on 10/26/2005 9:20:47 PM PDT by Maynerd
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: Registered
Did you even bother to read the speech?

I did. It is ghastly in form and content. And it is clear that she was solidly pro-choice at least as recently as 1993.

Of course she's only 60. With a little more maturity she may come around and grow into the job.

156 posted on 10/26/2005 9:20:58 PM PDT by JCEccles
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 146 | View Replies]

To: Petronski

Radicalized in what respect?


157 posted on 10/26/2005 9:21:42 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | View Replies]

To: RightOnline

The speech was in 1993. She was "saved" in the 1980's, or late 1070's, in fact prior to her supporting Al Gore, after Al Gore had his epiphany about abortion, but prior to Gore going hard left.


158 posted on 10/26/2005 9:21:45 PM PDT by Torie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 148 | View Replies]

To: FreeReign
The person who gave that speech was not a conservative at the time. You may be correct. That said, she was 48 years-old at the time.

Oh yeah, I forgot how many Miers' there were in the past. I loose track.

The Miers that voted Reagan

The Miers that gave to Algore.

The Miers for affirmative action.

The constructionist Miers.

Miers the conservative.

Miers the feminist.

The Pro-Life Miers.

The Pro-Choice Miers.

The worldly Miers.

The Christian Miers.

Who were we talking about now?........Oh yeah Miers.

159 posted on 10/26/2005 9:22:01 PM PDT by ALWAYSWELDING
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 140 | View Replies]

To: carlo3b

"What are you afraid of allowing this nominee to get to say her piece?"

From what I've read in the past several days of Miers, I'd say that a fear of there being any chance whatsoever of her being confirmed is pretty rational, from a conservative point of view.


160 posted on 10/26/2005 9:22:43 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 153 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 121-140141-160161-180 ... 241-259 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson