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Transcript of Miers 14 page 1993 speech to Executive Women of Dallas (pdf format)
Washington Post ^ | 1993 | Harriet Miers

Posted on 10/26/2005 7:54:50 PM PDT by USAConstitution

...when you hear the Courts blamed for activism or intrusion where they do not belong...Stop and examine what the elected leadership has done to solve the problem at issue and whether abdication to courts to make the hard decisions is a not too prevalent tactic in today's world....

Where else do we hear a lot today about the Courts.[sic] The law and religion... Abortion clinic protestors have become synonymous with terrorists and the courts have been the refuge for the besieged... The ongoing debate continues surrounding the attempt to once again criminalize abortions or to once and for all guarantee the freedom of the individual women's right to decide for herself whether she will have an abortion. Questions about what can be taught or done in public places or public schools are presented frequently to the courts.

The law and religion make for interesting mixture but the mixture tends to evoke the strongest of emotions. The underlying theme in most of these case is the insistence of more self-determination. And the more I think about these issues, the more self-determination makes the most sense. Legislating religion or morality we gave up on a long time ago. Remembering that fact appears to offer the most effective solutions to these problems once the easier cases are disposed of... Where science determines the facts, the law can effectively govern. However, when science cannot determine the facts and decisions vary based upon religious belief, then government should not act...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: harrietmiers; miers; scotus
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To: phelanw
Maybe so, but why are you afraid of allowing her to have her day in court, so to speak?
121 posted on 10/26/2005 8:57:22 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: I got the rope
I bet that FR poll is burning you up...isn't it?

It is shaking the foundations of government ... All eyes are fixed on the next comment from "I got the rope." The fate of the Republic rests with you ...

122 posted on 10/26/2005 8:57:27 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981

"This speech by her is indefensible and a genuine cause for concern."

We're in complete agreement on that point, at least.


123 posted on 10/26/2005 8:57:39 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: rudy45
Good point, as in e.g. "what a terrible time we live in, when abortion clinic protestors have become synonymous with terrorists." It changes the whole picture, doesn't it? I'm not saying that's the context, but AM saying that context does matter.

The problem here is the rest of her wording on the abortion issue - talk of one side "criminalizing" abortion, vs. on the other side "letting a woman decide for herself". This gives me the context I need to understand what she meant by the "synonymous with terrorists" statement.

Of course, given Miers' writing skill, that may not be what she meant. No matter - it's how it came across. Can you imagine such poor and imflamatory writing on a Supreme Court ruling? SHUDDER!

124 posted on 10/26/2005 8:58:08 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: oceanview
It's hard to "go after" every heathen, though isn't it ?

It's not like you have a spiritual reason to guard your speech.

125 posted on 10/26/2005 8:59:17 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: oceanview

"we are both trying to express the same sentiment about her career mobility."

From what I've seen, the word "chameleon" would be an apt description. Looks like she just can't help but say what she thinks those in front of her at the time want to hear, whoever that might be.


126 posted on 10/26/2005 9:00:02 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: jdm
Uh-oh.

My, thought too.
but............

This is 2005, not 1993. Lots of water under the bridge since then. Eight years of Clinton, Argh, Islamowhackos running amok, 9-11, John f'n Kerry, Hillary f'n Clinton, I have a scream Dean, Swift Boat Veterans, MSM fully outed, 5 years of W, etc. I'm far more conservative than then, and I'm a lot older than Harriet. Let's hear what the lady has to say.
127 posted on 10/26/2005 9:00:11 PM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: carlo3b

Because she's ticking. If she goes off in the hearing it's bad for her, for my President, for my party, for my country. It's a big risk to take with the other problems my President, my party, and my country face right now.


128 posted on 10/26/2005 9:00:12 PM PDT by phelanw
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To: RegulatorCountry
We're in complete agreement on that point, at least.

Yes, that speech is terrible. It was a Clintonian speech.

129 posted on 10/26/2005 9:00:54 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: All
Miers statements' about abortion are notable for what is not mentioned in them: namely, the slaughtered innocent unborn.

Reading Miers on abortion is like reading about the World War II Holocaust and finding no mention of the men, women, and children who were gassed, shot, starved, and stuffed into the ovens.

130 posted on 10/26/2005 9:00:59 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: RegulatorCountry

its going to be interesting to see how this plays out.


131 posted on 10/26/2005 9:02:57 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: SerpentDove
Surf's up!
132 posted on 10/26/2005 9:03:08 PM PDT by curiosity (Cronyism is not conservative)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


133 posted on 10/26/2005 9:03:33 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: JCEccles
Reading Miers on abortion ...

Abortion is one of the least of my concerns because it is still voluntary. The Court has the capacity to do greater evil than can be done with abortion. That speech had several red flags in it.

134 posted on 10/26/2005 9:04:07 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Cicero
I'm not so sure. Apparently Bush and his loyal supporters want to watch her cook a little while longer.

She didn't return her questionnaire by the 6pm deadline today. Maybe a withdrawal is imminent and she didn't want to waste her time.

135 posted on 10/26/2005 9:04:07 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (qualified to serve on the United States Supreme Court)
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To: carlo3b
Here is were we may have a disagreement

Take it up with Ponnuru.

I cannot understand how we Republicans with the majority behind us, can allow a lone judge make laws that should be overturned by an elected officials.

Same way the GOP lays down to a DEM obstructionist minority when it comes to advise & consent in the Senate. The politicians support status quo.

136 posted on 10/26/2005 9:04:36 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: USAConstitution

Will administration whores like Hugh Hewitt continue to embarass themselves and make excuses for this steaming turd of a court pick?


137 posted on 10/26/2005 9:05:48 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: Esther Ruth
"When science cannot determine the facts and decisions vary based upon religious belief, then government should not act."

Science can determine the facts.

138 posted on 10/26/2005 9:05:59 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: flashbunny
Would the term "unprincipled opportunist" be too strong?
139 posted on 10/26/2005 9:06:53 PM PDT by isrul
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To: af_vet_1981
The person who gave that speech was not a conservative at the time.

You may be correct. That said, she was 48 years-old at the time.

140 posted on 10/26/2005 9:07:51 PM PDT by FreeReign
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