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ACLU targets tiny cross on seal (Group takes on town of 500 over 30-year-old image)
World Net Daily ^ | October 25, 2005

Posted on 10/26/2005 5:55:27 AM PDT by NYer

Proving it does not discriminate against the size of the municipality it will take to court, the American Civil Liberties Union is locked in a legal battle with a small New Mexico town over a tiny cross on its seal – this after last year forcing the County of Los Angeles to remove a cross from its seal.

After being threatened with a lawsuit should it continue to use the seal, the city of Tijeras, N.M., – with a population of less than 500 – decided to place itself in a David and Goliath conflict with the ACLU to defend the presence of the cross.

In 1973, Tijeras adopted the seal, which was designed to symbolize the history of the town. It includes a conquistador's helmet and sword, a scroll, a desert plant, a fairly large religious symbol (the Native American zia) and a small Christian cross.

"Tiny cross inspectors are not permitted to fret about large non-Christian religious symbols, only undersized Christian ones," commented columnist John Leo about the case.

Since it is such a small town, Tijeras did not have the financial resources to battle the ACLU, so the Alliance Defense Fund, a pro-religious-liberty organization, has agreed to represent the municipality.

"The ACLU is once more specifically targeting a cross while it ignores Native American religious symbols," commented ADF senior counsel Gary McCaleb. "It reveals their desire to target all things Christian, regardless of the fact that the cross in the Tijeras seal is clearly an historic symbol and not an attempt to endorse any particular faith."

Wrote Silas Montgomery, tongue in cheek, in the Arizona Daily Wildcat, referencing the placement of the cross on the seal: "This heinous crime, committed more than 30 years ago, went unpunished until the righteous crusaders from the ACLU took note of it and decided that justice had to be served."


Old L.A. County seal

As WorldNetDaily reported, last year the American Civil Liberties Union, or ACLU, threatened to sue the county if the L.A. County Board of Supervisors did not redesign the seal, leading to a 3-2 vote to remove the small cross. The ACLU claimed it violated the First Amendment of the Constitution.

The Board subsequently voted to approve a new cross-less seal.

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New effort to restore cross to seal


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: aclu; antichristian; christian; cross; seal; secularjihad; stoptheaclu
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To: NYer
I've begun to think the ACLU is going to expire of its own inanity.

Are tiny crosses, Ten Commandments plaques, and preventing some little kid from saying a prayer really the great libertarian issues?
21 posted on 10/26/2005 6:37:24 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush

I'm wondering when the idjits at the ACLU are going to make the New Mexico town of Las Cruces change it's name.


22 posted on 10/26/2005 6:48:59 AM PDT by Pigsley
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To: Guenevere

So what would they do if the town just ignored the ruling?


23 posted on 10/26/2005 6:49:33 AM PDT by Luircin (Conservatives want to turn losers into winners. Liberals want them to feel good about being losers.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Those are very apt! I heard John Gibson's Word say (paraphrasing).... that the "Left" is very intolerant of the Right and Christians!. I think we need to start using that word.....intolerant.......to start describing the left when we see stuff like this come up!
24 posted on 10/26/2005 7:22:42 AM PDT by beachn4fun (T-minus 49 and counting.............)
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To: NYer

Well, I guess we made the big time.... :(


25 posted on 10/26/2005 7:23:24 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: Luircin
Would that we could...

..but thankfully, we now have the American Center for Law & Justice....and the Alliance Defense Fund, among others...fighting back.

26 posted on 10/26/2005 7:28:33 AM PDT by Guenevere (central Florida, east coast)
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To: NYer
The ACLU sure has been busy, filing lawsuits all over the country.

What a sick organization, supporting pedophiles and other perverts, trying to destroy anything that promotes good character, resorting extortion.

27 posted on 10/26/2005 7:28:42 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: NYer

Image of Jesus seen on city tree.

Posted on 10/26/2005 7:18:06 AM PDT by i cant stand it

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051026/NEWS01/510260329/1002/NEWS

The synchronicity was perfect. Right below this thread on the comment board was this one.

Next ACLU target - trees.


28 posted on 10/26/2005 7:33:10 AM PDT by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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To: Luircin
So what would they do if the town just ignored the ruling?

Some Clinton appointed federal judge would fine the city some big bucks, that the city/town can't afford to lose over this BS. And jail the local city gov't officials for contempt.

29 posted on 10/26/2005 7:55:38 AM PDT by rerat0120
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To: NYer

Ummm, that cross is on a Rosary if you look closely.


30 posted on 10/26/2005 7:56:58 AM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: George W. Bush
I've begun to think the ACLU is going to expire of its own inanity. Are tiny crosses, Ten Commandments plaques, and preventing some little kid from saying a prayer really the great libertarian issues?

The ACLU is not a "libertarian" organization.

31 posted on 10/26/2005 8:15:58 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Jay777

Ping


32 posted on 10/26/2005 8:17:20 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Luircin

You know... that's pretty much the answer. The courts can rule anything they want. But it's the executive branch that enforces the laws. We've already got tons of laws that nobody enforces. I would guess a little bit of case law mixed in with those that we dont' enforce wouldn't hurt anything.


33 posted on 10/26/2005 8:19:45 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: rerat0120

So the court rules... the city leaders write a note to the city manager... he writes a note to somebody else. Then they take bids from the contractors for removing the cross from the seal. And the bidding process is determined to take 9 months. And then there needs to be a study of the most efficient way to do it. And on and on... and 4 years from now nothing has been done. I'm not sure who the court then fines.


34 posted on 10/26/2005 8:22:36 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: xzins

What about Los Angeles, whose real name is "Queen of the Angels?" San Francisco, Santa Barbara, etal.


35 posted on 10/26/2005 8:40:55 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Desdemona

Great minds think alike! See reply #20.


36 posted on 10/26/2005 9:12:22 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

That must be Tijeras's 15 minutes of fame! Best wishes on the town's legal battle.


37 posted on 10/26/2005 9:57:31 AM PDT by Redcitizen (My tagline can beat up your honor tagline)
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To: RobbyS

Exactly. Those place names do testify to the religious faith of the settlers, don't they.


38 posted on 10/26/2005 10:15:50 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

And of cousre there is the Trinity River that I live next to.


39 posted on 10/26/2005 10:25:25 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: NYer; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...

thank the alliance defense fund

 

http://www.alliancedefensefund.org/main/default.aspx

40 posted on 10/26/2005 10:42:17 AM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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