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Russia Population Shrinks to 143 Million
Yahoo ^ | Oct 21 | AP

Posted on 10/22/2005 8:08:20 AM PDT by george76

Russia's population has shrunk by more than half a million people this year...

Russia's population — the largest in Europe — has been declining steadily since the 1991 breakup of the Soviet Union, with increased poverty, alcoholism, emigration and degradation of the health care system blamed for reducing birth rates and life expectancy.

Demographers predicted that Russia's population will fall to 100 million by 2050, and could even drop to 80 million.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: birthrate
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To: george76

That's good news.

They were overpopulated anyway.


41 posted on 10/22/2005 9:38:09 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: george76

United Nations experts have urged Russian authorities to boost social spending to improve health care and prevent the population decline.
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lol, yea people always flee to socialism, not away from it.. /sarc


42 posted on 10/22/2005 10:01:26 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/secondaryproblemsofsocialism.htm)
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To: Age of Reason

How do you figure, given the size of the former Soviet Union...that means we're way overpopulated and Europe more so? Huh?


43 posted on 10/22/2005 10:03:47 AM PDT by john drake (roman military maxim: "oderint dum metuant, i.e., let them hate, as long as they fear")
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To: sine_nomine

"I have met one or two beautiful Russian brides. I don't think they miss the poverty and Stone Age standard of living."

I am sure you are correct. Who would miss that? I don't blame them one bit for seeking something better. I do worry about the ones who fall into a bad situation, but I believe they are in the minority. I wish them good fortune and happiness.


44 posted on 10/22/2005 10:20:15 AM PDT by Virginia Queen (Virginia Queen)
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To: george76

Russia, meet Mexico.


45 posted on 10/22/2005 10:21:00 AM PDT by wardaddy (Peace and love and warm hugs to everyone...sandalwood and patchouli too)
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To: MrNatural

that is almost 3 times the US incidence

rumour here...never substantiated that I know of is one in four of Amereican women will have an abortion in their lifetimes


46 posted on 10/22/2005 10:24:05 AM PDT by wardaddy (Peace and love and warm hugs to everyone...sandalwood and patchouli too)
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To: muawiyah

Actually Tatarstan is considered predominantly Muslim Republic within Russia, and they are allowed to fly their state flag higher than the Russian flag. As well, street signs in Kazan are in both Arabic and Cyrillic lettering ( I have been there...).

Kazan was sacked more than a dozen times in it's 1000 year history- including by Ghengis Khan and his golden horde. As to whether their population was ever so large - do not forget that they lost about 26 million during WWII, and Stalin was responsible for executing or starving to death some 8 to 10 million Ukrainian Kulaks, and another 15 to 25 million other enemies of the state besides.

The revolution between the Red and the Whites, Leninists and Trotskyites was more costly for them than the Civil War was for the US (which was more costly for us than was WWII).

Just a few thoughts

A.A.C.

The Final Crusade has commenced.


47 posted on 10/22/2005 10:48:19 AM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: muawiyah
Ever stop to think that the Russian population wasn't as large as they claimed?

Good point. The statistics of Communist states generally aren't worth the low-grade paper they're printed on. Your observation reminds me of Pierre Chaunu,a French demographer who wrote in the 1970s that many African states inflated their populations in order to get more foreign aid (which the leaders then stole). Chaunu also thought that Chinese population figures were exaggerated, noting that the population of China under Chiang Kai-shek in the 1930s was estimated at about 300 million, but Mao's state then claimed a billion people in the 1950s.

48 posted on 10/22/2005 11:22:17 AM PDT by TheMole
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To: george76

My sympathies.


49 posted on 10/22/2005 12:04:36 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Virginia Queen

"Are you happy for you?"

Absolutely, took me 3 years, in the end I waited outside the embassy in Moscow and after success with the interview we headed back. That was Aug, 2004. Still dealing with wonderful DHS (USCIS)
and just got a notice from them after having our adjustment application in since last November; "we received your application, current processing time is between 270-360 days"

What a scam. Unfortunately there is no border for them to sneak across, I did everything by the book and paid 10's of thousands of dollars for it. This is why I am so angry at the illegal immigration issue here. I am becoming more activist about it every day. Will support the anti-Herndon, VA effort to use money (our taxes) I want to spend for my children's education to pay for welfare for illegals. Nothing makes me angrier. The minutemen are going to be there and I am going to support them, but that's another thread. Anyone in VA, please help with the Kilgore election. Do something, anything.

Best regards


50 posted on 10/22/2005 12:56:56 PM PDT by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: cynicom

A bunch of single Chinamen will invade Russia to find..... a bunch of single Russian men!


51 posted on 10/22/2005 1:00:45 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: InsureAmerica

Amen! And triple Dittos!!!!


52 posted on 10/22/2005 1:10:45 PM PDT by Virginia Queen (Virginia Queen)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
A bunch of single Chinamen will invade Russia to find..... a bunch of single Russian men!

Then they can get married and honeymoon at South Beach.

53 posted on 10/22/2005 1:14:54 PM PDT by reg45
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To: reg45
A truly disturbing scenario!
54 posted on 10/22/2005 1:35:07 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: george76

I remember some fictional nationalist in a Dostoevsky novel exuberant that Russia would be at 300 million by this time and the most powerful country in the world. How things change.


55 posted on 10/22/2005 2:42:32 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Be not Afraid. "Perfect love drives out fear.")
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To: cynicom

The can put 200 million into the field on an emergency basis, shades of armageddon!


56 posted on 10/22/2005 2:58:31 PM PDT by mdmathis6 ("It was not for nothing that you were named Ransom" from CS LEWIS' Perelandra!)
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic

You are right and I'll bet it explains all, and more, of the population decrease.


57 posted on 10/22/2005 3:01:50 PM PDT by TCats
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To: A message

Of course, nearly 80 years of mostly unrestricted abortion had nothing to do with their population decline.

Fertility rate in Italy is under 1.3 children per woman and abortion is illegal in Italy. Declining population is a problem all across Europe and would be in the US if not for immigrants.

58 posted on 10/22/2005 3:41:46 PM PDT by elli1
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To: elli1

Immigrants, Mormons, and guys like me with six kids....


59 posted on 10/22/2005 4:06:31 PM PDT by freebilly (Go USF Baseball!)
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To: JAWs
And guess what's gonna rush into the vacuum?

Lemme guess...Mooooslims?

60 posted on 10/22/2005 4:07:30 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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