This is where I get off

NRO - The Corner ^ | 10/22/2005 | Goldberg, Jonah

[Calpernia]

But do you like M&Ms?

[TAdams8591]

WOW, powerful post and exactly right!

[Cboldt]

This is an example of how Bush has hurt the conservative cause more than any president in my lifetime - he has his unapologetic defenders embracing liberal ideas.

You ignorant fool!

Not to argue where GWB falls on the spectrum, but perhaps he has unwittingly (maybe on purpose? who cares?) awakened the Constitutional spirit. The pick exposes the principles of the players, and that is ALWAYS a good thing. The pick is, in a way, a ray of sunshine, a cleaver.

The nomination has caused the party defenders to show what makes them tick - win at all costs, what the leader says, goes.

Whether traditional conservatism prevails or not is a crystal ball question. We can't know. But the battle has been clarified by this nomination, and for that, I am greatful.

[peyton randolph]

Heralding Miers as a quota supporter is not being her "advocate". Get real!

WaPo, like many others, realizes that a conventional pick as a replacement for Miers if she withdraws will be more conservative than Miers. Given that the WaPo is the Pravda on the Potomac, with fellow Dimwit travelers as its readership base, the article is in fact an advocacy piece. WaPos is telling the Dimwits to accept this Souter in a skirt. Except for the MoveOn moonbats, most lefties realize Miers is better for them than the alternative...a Luttig, McConnell, Rogers Brown, etc.

[ladyinred]

I am astounded at the criticism of this woman. It is of course your choice to say these things, but with each new member of the court, we don't actually know what they will do until they do it. I am giving her a chance, she can't be worse than the outright liberals up there.

[cgbg]

When you come up hard like she did, you either pull the ladder up behind you or you leave the ladder down and reach back and pull people up," he said. "Harriet reached back -- that's who she is."<<<<< Yeah, that sounds horrible to me. /sarc

I have been saying that her supporters will need a couple of weeks getting hit by two by fours before they "get it".

So, get ready to duck. :-)

The only ladder anyone should be offering is one based on merit.

Any other ladder, based by race or sex, is inherently unfair and counter-productive to the organization and the society as a whole.

Affirmative action hires often are under-qualified which is a dis-service to them as well as those who have to deal with them.

I will give you one anecdote where I have first-hand knowledge.

I used to work in cable television. That industry had a habit of promoting unqualified black individuals to positions of high visibility. They did so because they were not willing to pay the wages the few well-qualified black candidates could command, and they were regulated by the FCC which had and has a variety of affirmative action requirements.

(They still do affirmative action hiring today, by the way. The most well-known is Mayor "flooded buses" Nagin, formerly head of the New Orleans cable tv system.)

One person I knew well was an obvious affirmative action admission to an Ivy League Law School. He did graduate, but I do not know whether he passed the bar or not. He came to work for our cable company as an "Assistant to the President" and did a lot of glad-handing at social gatherings--our token black face.

He never seemed interested in learning about the industry, and his intelligence was average which put him well below the average of our high-powered executive team.

After a couple of years with us he was chosen as President of a medium sized cable television company. The company that hired him was primarily a newspaper company and didn't pay close attention to their cable subsidiary. It was a cash cow and they were used to having it run by itself. So now they had a black cable television president.

Two years later after losing millions of dollars in their cable tv subsidiary they sold it at far below market value.

This "affirmative action" baby cost shareholders a fortune.

From what I can discern Harriet Myers has not been the best qualified to lead the law firm she headed, the bar association she headed, and the White House staff positions she has held to date. Her primary qualification to serve on the Supreme Court of our land appears to be that she is Laura Bush's first choice.

Affirmative action is bad in the college and law school world, it is bad in the professional world, it is bad in the political world.

It is race and sex discrimination, pure and simple. It is pure evil.

It sickens me that any Freeper would defend it.

I hope you will sleep on this post before responding--because you need to reflect on what kind of world you want to live in, and what kind of Supreme Court you want to see.

[Calpernia]

>>>>most lefties realize Miers is better for them than the alternative

Oh really????

[Calpernia]

>>>>Affirmative action hires

That is EOE Quotas. Not goals.

[Yaelle]

P.O.E., this is your old 6th grade teacher, Mrs. Freudenhofer. I must say that I am very pleased and proud of your latest achievements. I will revise my Spring 1971 Language Studies grade of yours and pencil in a B+.

Keep up the good work!

[peyton randolph]

Oh really????

Yes. The usual suspects (excluding MoveOn moonbats) are strangely silent with this nomination. PAW, NAACP, La Raza, ACLU, etc. would be screaming if a conservative had been nominated. Remember that Harry Reid recommended Miers to Bush. He didn't do so because he thought Miers would be a conservative.

[Calpernia]

You have the nerve to post that to me after I started the thread showing Not In Our Name headed up the Anti Miers project from trying to back track the info on this thread?

[Stellar Dendrite]

yeah i posted the first thread yesterday afternoon that said such. then i was attacked because it was "irrelevant".

[peyton randolph]

You have the nerve to post that to me after I started the thread...

With all due respect, you started this by attacking my reply to another FReeper. I have not spent my day(s) reading your other threads. The only FReeper whose threads I make a point of reading (except those Ping lists I'm on) is Jim Robinson.

That being said, feel free to send me a link to your thread and I'll be happy to read it.

Note that until today, I've withheld judgment on the Miers nomination - hoping that she'd pull an Ollie North with the Senate during the confirmation hearings. Having attended the same law school as Miers, I have a personal vested interested in her being confirmed because it increases the prestige of my law degree. However, the affirmative action/reverse discrimination stuff is the straw that broke the camel's back. Our nation deserves better.

[Calpernia]

Doesn't change the fact that you are wrong. It is the Not In Our Name headed up the Anti Miers campaign :)

[peyton randolph]

Doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.

As I said, feel free to post the link to the thread to which you refer. I'll be happy to read it.

[Calpernia]

Already did.

[mrsmith]

"work hard, paper over differences for general comity, and "get along." "

These are admirable qualities for a President of the Texas Bar, or anyone who "herds cats".
Obviously it is significant that that is what she was doing in the examples you have seen.

There certainly is 'too much extrapolating going on out there' among her opponents and defenders! I've seen nothing to make a reasonable person not support her if she shows character at Specter's Kabuki dance.

[Map Kernow]

yeah i posted the first thread yesterday afternoon that said such. then i was attacked because it was "irrelevant".

It figures... :)

[Texas Federalist]

Whether traditional conservatism prevails or not is a crystal ball question. We can't know. But the battle has been clarified by this nomination, and for that, I am greatful.

I agree. Maybe this will whip the party back to the right.

[Hot Tabasco]

Boy, did Bush screw up on this!

Yep, he sure did!