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Oct. 22: Anniversary of Edmund Fitzgerald
KSTP 5 news ^ | 10-21-05 | kstp news

Posted on 10/21/2005 8:49:42 PM PDT by Rakkasan1

On the 30th anniversary of her famous wreck, Jason Davis and "5 EYEWITNESS NEWS ON THE ROAD" show you how Minnesotans are remembering the Edmund Fitzgerald.

You'll hear how top Twin Cities musicians are paying tribute to her lost crew of 29. We'll also take you on the only voyage families of the victims ever made to the site of the disaster.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: anniversary; edmund; edmundfitzgerald; fitzgerald; maritime; martime
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also check out Great Lakes Maritime Institute Remembers the Edmund Fitzgerald on the 30th Anniversary of the Sinking: http://www.glmi.org/event/fitz2005.htm
1 posted on 10/21/2005 8:49:43 PM PDT by Rakkasan1
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To: Rakkasan1
Gordon Lightfoot wrote:

The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of November turn gloomy.

With a load of iron ore - 26,000 tons more
Than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty
That good ship and true was a bone to be chewed
When the gales of November came early

The ship was the pride of the American side
Coming back from some mill in Wisconson
As the big freighters go it was bigger than most
With a crew and the Captain well seasoned.

Concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms
When they left fully loaded for Cleveland
And later that night when the ships bell rang
Could it be the North Wind they'd been feeling.

The wind in the wires made a tattletale sound
And a wave broke over the railing
And every man knew, as the Captain did, too,
T'was the witch of November come stealing.

The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait
When the gales of November came slashing
When afternoon came it was freezing rain
In the face of a hurricane West Wind

When supper time came the old cook came on deck
Saying fellows it's too rough to feed ya
At 7PM a main hatchway caved in
He said fellas it's been good to know ya.

The Captain wired in he had water coming in
And the good ship and crew was in peril
And later that night when his lights went out of sight
Came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Does anyone know where the love of God goes
When the words turn the minutes to hours
The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay
If they'd fifteen more miles behind her.

They might have split up or they might have capsized
They may have broke deep and took water
And all that remains is the faces and the names
Of the wives and the sons and the daughters.

Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings
In the ruins of her ice water mansion
Old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams,
The islands and bays are for sportsmen.

And farther below Lake Ontario
Takes in what Lake Erie can send her
And the iron boats go as the mariners all know
With the gales of November remembered.

In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed
In the Maritime Sailors' Cathedral
The church bell chimed, 'til it rang 29 times
For each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald.

The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
Superior, they say, never gives up her dead
When the gales of November come early.

2 posted on 10/21/2005 8:54:13 PM PDT by quantim (I just reek of the antithesis of liberalism. They smell me and scatter like rats.)
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To: quantim

I used to play that song on the jukebox in a favorite youthful pizza parlor haunt. It really gave you your money's worth.


3 posted on 10/21/2005 9:01:08 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: Rakkasan1

Crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald

    

Twenty-nine brave men lost their lives on November 10, 1975.  Their names, ages, occupations, and hometowns are listed below. 

 

Name

Age

Occupation Onboard

Hometown

Michael E. Armagost

37

Third Mate

Iron River, Wisconsin

Fred J. Beetcher

56

Porter

Superior, Wisconsin

Thomas D. Bentsen

23

Oiler

St. Joseph, Michigan

Edward F. Bindon

47

First Asst. Engineer

Fairport Harbor, Ohio

Thomas D. Borgeson

41

Maintenance Man

Duluth, Minnesota

Oliver J. Champeau

41

Third Asst. Engineer

Milwaukee, Wisconsin

Nolan S. Church

55

Porter

Silver Bay, Minnesota

Ransom E. Cundy

53

Watchman

Superior, Wisconsin

Thomas E. Edwards

50

Second Asst. Engineer

Oregon, Ohio

Russell G. Haskell

40

Second Asst. Engineer

Millbury, Ohio

George J. Holl

60

Chief Engineer

Cabot, Pennsylvania

Bruce L. Hudson

22

Deck Hand

North Olmsted, Ohio

Allen G. Kalmon

43

Second Cook

Washburn, Wisconsin

Gordon F. MacLellan

30

Wiper

Clearwater, Florida

Joseph W. Mazes

59

Special Maintenance Man

Ashland, Wisconsin

John H. McCarthy

62

First Mate

Bay Village, Ohio

Ernest M. McSorley

63

Captain

Toledo, Ohio

Eugene W. O'Brien

50

Wheelsman

Toledo, Ohio

Karl A. Peckol

20

Watchman

Ashtabula, Ohio

John J. Poviach

59

Wheelsman

Bradenton, Florida

James A. Pratt

44

Second Mate

Lakewood, Ohio

Robert C. Rafferty

62

Steward

Toledo, Ohio

Paul M. Riippa

22

Deck Hand

Ashtabula, Ohio

John D. Simmons

63

Wheelsman

Ashland, Wisconsin

William J. Spengler

59

Watchman

Toledo, Ohio

Mark A. Thomas

21

Deck Hand

Richmond Heights, Ohio

Ralph G. Walton

58

Oiler

Fremont, Ohio

David E. Weiss

22

Cadet

Agoura, California

Blaine H. Wilhelm

52

Oiler

Moquah, Wisconsin

 


4 posted on 10/21/2005 9:03:35 PM PDT by lunarbicep (If your ship doesn't come in, swim out to it. –Jonathan Winters)
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To: quantim

I love that ballad. Thanks


5 posted on 10/21/2005 9:04:40 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm really BagdadBob under the witness protection program.)
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To: Rakkasan1

Did they ever figure out what caused the loss?


6 posted on 10/21/2005 9:04:54 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: hsalaw

My understanding is the hatch bungs came loose and they lost tbe main hatch. She started taking water very fast. There was another ship behind her that had her on radar. She just disappeared.


7 posted on 10/21/2005 9:08:04 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (LET ME KNOW WHERE HANOI JANE FONDA IS WHEN SHE TOURS)
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To: hsalaw
from: http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/wxwise/fitz.html

The ore was loaded through hatchways located top side. On October 31 routine damage was noted during an inspection and were scheduled for repair after the 1975 shipping season. The hatch covers were not sealed properly and were therefore not water tight, thus allowing water to enter the cargo areas. Once water entered it could migrate throughout the hold. There was no way to determine if flooding was occurring in the cargo bay until the ore was saturated, much like a sponge. Throughout the storm the ship was probably taking on water in the cargo hold though the hatches. Increased water loading, and the lower load line, made the ship sit lower in the water, allowing more water to board the ship. Eventually the "bow pitched down and dove into a wall of water and the vessel was unable to recover. Within a matter of seconds, the cargo rushed forward, the bow plowed into the bottom of the lake, and the midship's structure disintegrated, allowing the submerged stern section, now emptied of cargo, to roll over and override the other structure, finally coming to rest upside-down atop the disintegrated middle portion of the ship" (Marine Accident Report SS Edmund Fitzgerald Sinking in Lake Superior). This sequence of events would lead to a rapid sinking, with no time to make a distress call or attempt life-saving operations. The conditions of the recovered lifeboats support this in that they appear to have been torn from their storage racks.

8 posted on 10/21/2005 9:08:54 PM PDT by lunarbicep (If your ship doesn't come in, swim out to it. –Jonathan Winters)
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To: quantim

Sung by a Canuck, no less.


9 posted on 10/21/2005 9:18:03 PM PDT by happyathome
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To: Vigilanteman

It really gave you your money's worth.

In those days, so did the Pizza! =)


10 posted on 10/21/2005 9:23:01 PM PDT by Just Lori (Tony Schaeffer, Curt Weldon, Able Danger....... PAY ATTENTION.)
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To: U S Army EOD; lunarbicep

Many thanks to both of you for the helpful information. I asked because I thought the Edmund Fitzgerald was a Cleveland-Cliffs boat, and my brother was sailing for Cleveland-Cliffs in the 1970s. I heard on the radio that the Edmund Fitzgerald had gone down on the morning of my contracts mid-term exam in law school, promptly called my parents and found out my brother was on another boat, prayed for the lost souls and gave thanks for my brother's safety, and then went to class and took the exam. I can't recall how I did on the exam, but I clearly recall how horrified I was to hear about the Edmund Fitzgerald. November is indeed the most dangerous month on the Great Lakes; the boats all want to get in that one last trip before the season closes down. Sorry to babble on about this - trip down memory lane.


11 posted on 10/21/2005 9:27:19 PM PDT by hsalaw
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Edmund Fitzgerald Kennedy


12 posted on 10/21/2005 9:28:47 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (The search for someone to blame is always successful. - Robert Half)
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To: Rakkasan1

Gordon F. MacLellan

30

Wiper [?]

Clearwater, Florida

13 posted on 10/21/2005 9:50:31 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Rakkasan1
Maybe I was wrong about this, but I thought the Edmund Fitzgerald sank on November 10, 1975 -- not October 22.

I'll have to do some research on this and get back here.

15 posted on 10/21/2005 10:03:27 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: hsalaw

That must been a terrible time you went through. The not knowing.


16 posted on 10/21/2005 10:05:25 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (LET ME KNOW WHERE HANOI JANE FONDA IS WHEN SHE TOURS)
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To: hsalaw

One theory is that the Fitzgerald had partially grounded itself on Six Fathom Shoal and began taking on water - although it's highly likely that water has coming in already because of loose hatches.

This happened around 3:15PM. The captain of the Arthur M Anderson later testified that he commented (to someone on the bridge) that the Fitzgerald was closer to Six Fathom Shoal than he'd want to be.

There are a number of theories. Here's a link where they're briefly mentioned:

http://www.ssefo.com/info/theories.html


17 posted on 10/21/2005 10:13:31 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Alberta's Child
It was November 10th. I have no idea where the October 22nd date in the article at the top of this thread came from.
18 posted on 10/21/2005 10:15:24 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Alberta's Child

You are correct.

It was November 10, 1975 - but Channel 5 is doing a short segment on it on Saturday night at 10:35PM.


19 posted on 10/21/2005 10:15:53 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: zip; BOBWADE

ping


20 posted on 10/21/2005 10:17:13 PM PDT by Mrs Zip
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