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1 posted on 10/18/2005 3:00:16 PM PDT by Hadean
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... a larger comprehensive immigration reform program ...

SEAL the borders. That big enough?

2 posted on 10/18/2005 3:01:53 PM PDT by 4CJ (Tu ne cede malis!)
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How about one guest worker permit for every confirmed deportee? Show the clampdown before the guest worker permits are authorized.

If guest workers are really needed, there are many potential deportees to authorize the work permits. Start by taking a paddy wagon to an illegal immigration enabling rally. If that doesn't collect enough, you can pick up those using phony IDs.

4 posted on 10/18/2005 3:04:31 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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"We're going to need more than just brute enforcement," Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told the Senate Judiciary Committee. "We're going to need a temporary worker program as well."

Too bad we can't deport Chertoff and Bush from Washington.

5 posted on 10/18/2005 3:04:53 PM PDT by Mini-14
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Here's the loophole for all the recent deportation rhetoric.


6 posted on 10/18/2005 3:04:58 PM PDT by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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"Obtuse" doesn't begin to describe this guy.


7 posted on 10/18/2005 3:05:04 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Hadean

There are merits for a guest worker program if properly administered.

Beats the chit out of amnesty for illegals.

I shall now don my armor plated flame resistant suit and go to the bunker.


8 posted on 10/18/2005 3:05:38 PM PDT by mmercier (all God's creatures)
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We have workers here now. Run off the illegals and put the dead beats to work. No work, no pay, no money, no booze, no drugs, no party, no couch dances. Work or starve. No one promised you a life. Life is your responsibility. You have to earn your keep. No one voted you a freebie life. Your inability to prepare yourself for life is not my fault or problem. Let the dead beats work.
10 posted on 10/18/2005 3:05:49 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Socialist Dems, the MSM and Islamic murderers, ALL threats to the Republic!)
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""If an employer has a job that no American is willing to take..."

Then let the employer raise the compensation for said job or innovate or automate.
11 posted on 10/18/2005 3:06:03 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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What part of HELL NO, does the man I contributed, walked my precinct and voted for not understand?

Send all illegals back home President Bush and let them apply in an acceptable manner with the requsite background checks (their expense, of course.)

12 posted on 10/18/2005 3:08:02 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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With the conservative base roiling already, Bush just ought to knock off talking about immigration for a while. Is Rove so preoccupied with the Grand Jury that he isn't doing politics right now?


15 posted on 10/18/2005 3:12:47 PM PDT by colorado tanker (I can't comment on things that might come before the Court, but I can tell you my Pinochle strategy)
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Wow. He's gone full tilt this month. What's next?


16 posted on 10/18/2005 3:13:06 PM PDT by riri
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Not a good moment to ask for favors.


20 posted on 10/18/2005 3:15:46 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


21 posted on 10/18/2005 3:15:54 PM PDT by gubamyster
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a pledge to clamp down on illegal immigration

Just do it, already!

Put up or shut up.

Actions speak louder than words.


GW has been pushing amnesty since 2001. Had it not been for the 9-11-01 attacks and one Senator Robert Byrd stopping the amnesty bill then, Bush would have gotten amnesty for illegals early in his administration.

After 9-11, it became an uphill battle, but GW keeps pushing for it, just like Sisyphus kept rolling the boulder up the mountain.
22 posted on 10/18/2005 3:18:46 PM PDT by TomGuy
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"As we improve and expand our efforts to secure our borders,

Since when? Then why the need for Vigilantes Minutemen?

"we must also recognize that that enforcement cannot work unless it is part of a larger comprehensive immigration reform program," Bush said.

You've never tried enforcement! How do you know it won't work!

"If an employer has a job that no American is willing to take, we need to find a way to fill that demand by matching willing employers with willing workers from foreign countries on a temporary and legal basis."

If foreign workers have to be hired legally and paid a decent wage with benefits and payroll taxes, many Americans would probably take those jobs to begin with. The fact that these foreign workers are here ILLEGALLY is why Americans won't take those artificially sub-market wage jobs. Legalize the foreign workers and they are no longer needed in the U.S.

Enforcement First!

Thanks Prime Choice !

23 posted on 10/18/2005 3:19:35 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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President Bush sought support Tuesday for his guest worker plan for foreigners, hoping to win over skeptical conservatives with a pledge to clamp down on illegal immigration — one of a growing number of issues causing friction between the White House and fellow Republicans.

Hhhmm is it possible for poll numbers to go any lower? We're going to find out soon enough.

24 posted on 10/18/2005 3:20:12 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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Fence!

Good thing Bush isn't running again.


25 posted on 10/18/2005 3:21:24 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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As long as there is welfare and unemployment there are no jobs that Americans should be refusing.


30 posted on 10/18/2005 3:30:43 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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Bush Said: "As we improve and expand our efforts to secure our borders...."

Who's we sucker? Are you talking about the Minutemen, El Busho?
31 posted on 10/18/2005 3:32:16 PM PDT by Mulch (tm)
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Let me put it this way, Mr. President:

NO!

32 posted on 10/18/2005 3:32:39 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!)
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