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Nazi March Canceled When Police Disperse Rock-throwing Protesters (ongoing looting)
nbc24.com ^ | 10/15/2005 | N/A

Posted on 10/15/2005 10:30:55 AM PDT by sageb1

TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) - Police used tear gas to break up a rock-throwing crowd that had gathered to protest a planned march Saturday by the National Socialist Movement.

At least two dozen members of a Roanoke, Va.-based group that calls itself "America's Nazi Party" had gathered at Wilson Park just before noon and were to march under police protection.

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TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: canadians; gangs; mediabias; nationalsocialists; nazisvscommies; notapeacemovement; oh; ohio; racewar; racialdivision; riot; socialists; toledo; toledoriot
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To: Mr. Rational

At least 816 people were crushed to death or drowned in a stampede on a Baghdad bridge triggered by fears a suicide bomber was among vast crowds of Shiite pilgrims massed for a religious ceremony.

Who's to blame, who's to blame. Those pilgrims, and only them, that's who.

Have I come around to your way of thinking?


841 posted on 10/15/2005 10:09:19 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: ruoflaw
Yikes!

The leader of the National Socialist Movement's chapter in Roanoke, Va., said the rally won't sway the movement's support base.

"We stated repeatedly ... that the local blacks and their political leaders are a bunch of loudmouthed cowards, and that we expect that, when confronted with their criminal behavior by strong and organized white people, would run, hide, and whine. And it appears that is exactly what is happening," Bill White said in a statement.

A white resident's complaints to police about gang violence in the neighborhood got the movement interested in Toledo, White said.

The neighbor, Thomas Szych, has said he did not solicit the group's support, and he doesn't expect its march will alleviate the racial tensions.

Toledo groups plan rally to counter neo-Nazi march

842 posted on 10/15/2005 10:10:02 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Mr. Rational

Please don't put words in my mouth.
If you don't understand what it is I am saying, please ask for clarification, thank you.


843 posted on 10/15/2005 10:12:25 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Mr. Rational
"Only the rioters can riot. They are responsible. Yes - it is just that simple."

You are correct, of course.

It will be interesting to listen to the media follow-ups on this incident. Already, FNC ceems to have chosen sides. And we already know what the 3 stooges will say.

844 posted on 10/15/2005 10:13:44 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: dsc

Don't most Nazi movements have small members?


845 posted on 10/15/2005 10:15:28 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Mr. Rational
That sure is a lot of "escalation". He must have written one mean letter!

You're clueless. He never wrote a letter. He pulled a gun on his neighbor and her children.

Don't address me again. And this is a formal request. According to FR rules, I can hit the abuse button if you continue.

846 posted on 10/15/2005 10:16:21 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Wow, they went there to confront them with their criminal behavior......sounds like a vigilantes to me. Just think they went there to cause trouble and bring attention to themselves. Free Speech....where they going to call them loud mouth cowards?

Instigation, Incite to riot, all in a day's work.


847 posted on 10/15/2005 10:17:06 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: ruoflaw
"I want to get to the bottom of the situation and I want all those responsible to be brought to justice"

As we all do. No one is saying otherwise.

848 posted on 10/15/2005 10:17:22 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: freema

Radical political groups have had their right to free speech protected by U.S. Supreme Court decisions since around the end of WWI.

It's better for society, I think, to treat kook groups like the "Nazis," as the strange folks they are. They should be encouraged to change their views, mocked with some laughter, and confronted in a civilized way. This National Socialist Movement is unlikely to go anywhere because it is really too laughable. Someone donning a swastika armband isn't telling us very much other than that they are very much out of the mainstream and possibly mentally unbalanced. They might just get a perverse kick out of tweaking society's nose; I don't think any of us know. I think you're confusing the Nazis of WWII with these oddballs.

There are dangerous "right-wing" maniacs like Tom Metzger whom I would consider a much more serious threat than these clowns. They seem more into the Nazi 'fetish" than anything else.


849 posted on 10/15/2005 10:18:49 PM PDT by Lessingham ( "When the Kissing Had to Stop" - Best Anti-Communist Novel I've Read)
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To: sageb1

my argument is not with you.


850 posted on 10/15/2005 10:19:27 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: freema

That analogy is not applicable to the situtation in Toledo.


851 posted on 10/15/2005 10:19:59 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: ruoflaw

Oh - thank you for the wide berth - you are so kind to us newbies.

Please remember to explain it all to me when you figure it out. How long does it usually take to figure out who is responsible for throwing large stones at rescue vehicles? Did they think it was self defence?

I can't wait for the part where you explain how one person controls another's actions. Because, in the end, that is what any excuse for the rioters is about. Who is responsible for the person's actions.


852 posted on 10/15/2005 10:21:01 PM PDT by Mr. Rational (God gave me a brain and expects me to use it)
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To: ruoflaw
Wow, they went there to confront them with their criminal behavior......sounds like a vigilantes to me.

Now dear! It was just to be a "peaceful protest".

Instigation, Incite to riot, all in a day's work.

Unfortunately, it worked.

853 posted on 10/15/2005 10:21:02 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Spktyr

"Nazism is the preaching of genocide. Freedom of speech should not apply to people who think it's OK to kill off everyone that's not like them."............OK now when do we ban Islam in the USA?


854 posted on 10/15/2005 10:21:16 PM PDT by JABBERBONK
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To: freema

Another straw man for October porches.

Please identify the imminent threat posed by the few Nazis and Mr Szych to the rioters.

Who rioted for hours.

No comparison.


855 posted on 10/15/2005 10:25:43 PM PDT by Mr. Rational (God gave me a brain and expects me to use it)
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To: ruoflaw
"my argument is not with you."

I happen to agree with some of Mr. Rationa's statements. For instance, the fact that this group came to town was not a reason to riot. That being said, no one here is attempting to remove responsibility from any group or individual involved.

856 posted on 10/15/2005 10:28:39 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Mr. Rational

"The fault and responsibility for the riot rest solely with the rioters"..........Great now tell it to the Black mayor of Toledo who blamed the Nazis { They knew this would happen}..So who are the racists here?


857 posted on 10/15/2005 10:30:23 PM PDT by JABBERBONK
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To: freema
I don't think I'd be more comfortable in Europe, thank you. Speech is protected until it harms, darlin'.

Sorry, wrong. If that were true, those who threaten violence against speech they don't like, could shut down anyone.

The First Amendment says what it says, deal with it. The Nazis had a legal permit to march. They have done nothing illegal. The only people who should be prosecuted are those committing actual crimes: the rioters, and maybe some of the leftists who egged them on and advocated/encouraged/provoked violence. If the Nazis were advocating violence and making specific threats, the local prosecutors would be all over them. The fact is, the nazis haven't done anything wrong and the mere threat of violence against them, just because violent people don't like them, cannot be used as legal justification to silence them.

It's put up or shut up time: show where the nazis advocated actual violence against actual people (not vague theoretical palaver) and you have a case, and the federal, state and local prosecutors can prosecute them. Until then, you have no case. End of story.

858 posted on 10/15/2005 10:31:46 PM PDT by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: freema

qoute"I never thought I'd see an American give Nazis a right to free speech. I sure didn't think I'd see it here at Free Republic."


No American can "give" a right to another.Those rights are inherant at birth and endowed by the creator.No one grants or gives rights to another.We all have the same rights.All of us.

Free speech IS offensive speech,and protected by law.Restricting anothers' right to speak offensively because it is presumed to cause a violent offensive reaction in others is illegal and unconstitutional.

The people in that neighborhood who had been victimised by crime for years went to the cops and got no protection,they didnt belong to the correct victim group.They reached out to someone willing to make a public statement about it.Today we see the result.


859 posted on 10/15/2005 10:34:28 PM PDT by mediawatcher44
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To: JABBERBONK
"So who are the racists here?"

Good question, although Mr. Rational didn't mention anything about racism in that post. He simply said rioters were responsible for the riot.

860 posted on 10/15/2005 10:35:15 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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