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OK Bomber Update Coming Up on H&C!!!!!!
FNC | 10/14/05 | The Drowning Witch

Posted on 10/14/2005 6:03:52 PM PDT by The Drowning Witch

Might be the break!


TOPICS: US: Oklahoma; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: happyramadan; hinrichs; islamokazi; okbomber; oubombing; ramadan
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Comment #61 Removed by Moderator

To: OKSooner

Well stated my friend! If OK GOP had spent 1/10th of their time on the Largent race, he would have won, but that wasn't the case in 2002!

I think it is conservative against the establishment. If you notice all the conservatives are in the grassroots and the establishment here HATES the grassroots especially since we got Dr. Tom elected and defeated their establishment candidate. Never enjoyed working in a campaign so much in my life as I did Dr. Tom's.


62 posted on 10/14/2005 7:58:29 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: auboy

LOL!!! Norman is the largest city in the district followed by Lawton. He also is the Congressman for Tinker AFB which is north of us in Oklahoma County.


63 posted on 10/14/2005 8:00:38 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Battle Axe

Tenent is rumored to be but Cole is definitely not.


64 posted on 10/14/2005 8:02:02 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom; indcons

Just caught a short story on this on CNN Newsnight. Guest was Mark Tapscott along with some former FBI guy. Very brief story, but ti did raise the questions...

The story is maybe gaining some legs?


65 posted on 10/14/2005 8:02:33 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: auboy

J.C. is a conservative and couldn't thank the grassroots enough for his elections. J.C. is friendly with everyone in Oklahoma -- probably the most loved Congressman ever from OK.


66 posted on 10/14/2005 8:03:45 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: PhatHead

I hope so because what some folks are sitting on around here needs to see the light of day. Something has caused the bigwigs to try and get out in front of this story.


67 posted on 10/14/2005 8:05:31 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: PhatHead

Glad to hear the other networks are picking up on this story. FINALLY...


68 posted on 10/14/2005 8:10:50 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/13) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: All; origlonewolf; PhiKapMom; MizSterious; laz; Lizarde; Rte66; indcons; nw_arizona_granny
Thanks for providing the transcript for this. Seeing as it was Cole on I imagine the whole thing was devoted to trying to dismiss "rumors" and "theories" and such?

They can try as hard as they want to pretend that there is "nothing to see", but the more and more I dig and the more vociferous OU is becoming in, the greater the likelihood that there is MORE to see in this event. (There is that saying about only getting flak over the target...)

A coverup is definitely in the works, IMHO and has been since about 1 hour after the event - thanks to Boren. As someone on another thread pointed out the other day - the whole coverup only depends on one person at this point - the FBI investigator speaking to both Cole and Boren who are relaying the things they are hearing to their OU editors and now the MSM. Now, I'll admit that maybe the FBI has reason to keep some things quiet, but I think that perhaps they are both using each other to further their own agendas...
69 posted on 10/14/2005 8:19:50 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/13) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: SweetCaroline
so does that mean you don't need the video card if you have a cable modem?

No.

....where would one get a spliter for a cable line?

Radio Shack would be the best bet.

70 posted on 10/14/2005 8:31:23 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PhiKapMom

I thought so. J.C. has always impressed me as very genuine. And in his day, he was quite a QB. What a wonderful smile he has!


71 posted on 10/14/2005 9:05:10 PM PDT by auboy ("Don't get stuck on whiny")
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To: LibertyRocks
You know, anymore, I've learned to ditch Occam's razor and follow the money.

If there was a chance college football fan attendance could dive if this were covered, seems to me that's all the reason the sports concessions groups need to spike it.

Every idiot bureocrat (sp) knows the OKC-Moussaui-Saddam thing is eventually gonna break out.. which will then track to Waco... so we have groups that don't want Iraq's assets assuming liability judgments and those who don't want any socioeconomic ripples coming from Oklahoma and its many mysteries.

No politician wants anything to do with this, and the machine takes advantage of this.

God bless Jeana Davis.

72 posted on 10/14/2005 9:17:46 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: txflake

As far as the money angle it could also affect recruitment of foreign students which OU appears to have a lot of.

I think you meant to say track back to the OKC bombing - and I believe you are exactly right about that. Someone is dropping the ball in the FBI down there in OK, IMHO and now they are furiously trying to cover their bums.

I just hope Jayna sticks with this one like the OKC bombing and that witnesses and others come forward to speak with her. She's probably one of the ONLY people with enough experience regarding this subject that could connect the dots, and expose the FBI and others in this case.


73 posted on 10/14/2005 9:30:17 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/13) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: auboy

J.C. is terrific.


74 posted on 10/14/2005 10:49:16 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Battle Axe; The Drowning Witch; LibertyRocks; NapkinUser; rightwingintelligentsia; PhiKapMom; ...

Republican Congressman Tom Cole speaking on Hannity & Colmes on Fox News about OU Bomber [oubombing, normanbombing]

Following is a transcript from OCT 14 2005 9:18 ET
Lead-In, Alan Colmes: “An OK students suicide has set off a fire storm of debate whether this incident was part of a larger terror plot, we’ll talk to a congressman whose determined to get answers.” [Photo of Hinrich Head to waist with beard, Green shirt, blue jeans and what appears to be a cloth with blk criss cross patter w/White squares over a rock].

OCT 14 2005 9:22 ET
Lead-In, Sean Hannity: “A University of OK student blew himself up near a packed football stadium. Now was this a simple suicide or was it an attempted terrorist attack. Why isn’t it getting more media attention? We’re going to ask a congressman whose determined to get answers tonight.”

OCT 14 2005 9:31 ET
Colmes: “...but first University of Oklahoma [OK] student, Joel Hinrich[s] blew himself up just 100 yards away from the school’s packed football stadium on October first. Since then there have been a series of allegations about his motives and his crime.
Was he part of a larger terror plot, was it just an isolated incident?

Joining us now, OK Congressman who is demanding answers, Representative Tom Cole.
Thank you sir for being with us tonight.
Are we jumping to conclusions...”

Tom Cole: “Good to be with you.” [American flag on lapel]

Colmes: “...based on the fact that he had a Pakistani roommate and that he may have gone to buy some kind of explosion [verify if he said explosive]. Is there a little bit of paranoia or racism in jumping in to believe that this person might have other motives other than a lone suicide?”

Tom Cole: “Well I, I think its wise to be cautious.
You know we did have [Zacarias] Moussaoui in OK, the so called 20th hi-jacker, Nicholas Berg, the individual who was brutally murdered the past year, and, of course, had the largest incident of domestic terrorism with the OK city bombing, so I think there’s probably a heightened sensitivity...”

[Fox Facts: FBI is Conducting Probe into University of Oklahoma Bombing]

“...but, frankly I think the law enforcement officials here have done an excellent job and, uh, I got a great briefing by the special agent in charge; Hernandez and everything so far appears to indicate this was indeed an isolated incident, a very lonely and troubled young man who, uh had had a a rather disturbed adolescence and early childhood, and frankly resulted in a suicide, we don’t find any evidence of all, of a terrorist activity or any any plots.
[??] for the Islamic community”

[Fox Facts: 10/1: Student Died After Bomb Exploded at Football Stadium. Video footage of what appears to be a trooper? directing traffic past Yellow taped off area]

Colmes: I know you spoke with the F.B.I. He had a Pakistani roommate. He did suffer from depression as we found out. Also University of OK Instructor from Egypt was hand-cuffed at gunpoint and the roommate, the Pakistani roommate detained.

Again is this just being cautious and careful in a world of terrorism or are we too quick to make that connection because anyone connected with someone of foreign descent of certain countries and the possibility of terrorism.”

[Fox facts: Joel Hinrichs III was an Engineering Student]

Cole: “Well I think you ought to be careful. But I think actually the law enforcement people have been cautious and careful and there’s been no allegation of of inappropriate activity uh uh from um people that were detained. And frankly they deserve high marks. They were enormously cooperative. People here have been very helpful. The law enforcement I think responded quickly and professionally both locally and the federal officials as well.
And their on top of it. They’ve looked at it. Everyday that goes by, they’re more and more certain that this was indeed an isolated incident and uh, is being treated as such, so I frankly I think by and large people deserve high marks for the manner in which it’s being handled.”

[Fox facts: FBI: Found No Indication That Hinrichs had Links to Terrorists. Bomb Went Off About 100 Yards from the Football Stadium. Bomb Went Off During Second Quarter of Football Game. 85,000 Fans were Attending Oklahoma-Kansas State Game]

Hannity: “Hey Congressman, I want to talk specifically about conflicting reports that he [Hinrich] and his roommate [Fazal] Cheema, that they did attend this particular Mosque which was one block away from their house [apartment]. There was a local TV station and correspondent that said he [Hinrich] spent much of his time there, but that is being disputed by other people.
Do we know the answer to it, cause this is the one according to the Wall Street Journal said the Mosque that was attended by [Zacarias] Moussaoui that would be an an important pertinent fact in some peoples mind, and would it be in your mind, and what do you know about it?”

[Fox facts: Officials removed Explosive Materials from Hinrich’s Apt. FBI Questioned Hinrichs’ Pakistani-National Roommate]

Cole: “Well again I I could understand people being concerned and cautious but the reality is we don’t have any indication that he ever attended the Mosque, quite the opposite, there’s just, there’s no ‘Jahidist’ material uh in the apartment. The fact that he had a Pakistani roommate does indeed seem to be coincidental.
Just simply ah people looking for a way to cut their housing costs together. They weren’t close. They weren’t friends. Uh, we have no note that was left to indicate that, and there’s just simply no indication this was anything other than a suicide.”

“Again I could understand why people try and look at this an jump to conclusions quickly. But a...”

[Fox facts: Hinrichs’ Apt is Near Mosque Attended by Z. Moussaoui]

Hannity: “Well, Congressman, but he blew himself up a hundred, he blew himself up a hundred yards away from a football stadium packed with 85 thousand people, it is beyond rare the person that commits suicide with a bomb, uh,”

[Fox facts: Hinrichs Purchased Same Explosive Used by McVeigh and Richard Reid]

Cole: “Oh extrodinarily rare.”

Hannity: “Should it not raise suspicion and concern? I mean that seems logical to me?”

Cole: “Well I think concern, yes, and uh, this is an individual frankly that had a history of dealing with explosives back to the time he was a teenager, throughout his adolescence and I think that is worth noting and the F.B.I. actually made that point to me that it’s unfortunate, that’s an illegal activity that people don’t report it. They were a little bit amazed that this individual, troubled young man, had been handling explosives...”

Hannity: “Yeah”

Cole: “...for literally years and nobody had bothered to bring it to the attention of the authorities. Again no evidence of conspiracy. No evidence of, of any kind of involvement and frankly I’d point out normally when you have a terrorist incident, people are racing to claim credit for it as a terrorist incident.”

Colmes: “Congressman we...”

Cole: “Again we had a great cooperation from our Islamic community here. I don’t think there is any reason for concern.”

Colmes: “...we thank you very much for being here. Thank you for your time.”

Cole: “You bet.”
End 9:36 PM


76 posted on 10/15/2005 2:53:58 AM PDT by origlonewolf
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To: LibertyRocks

I posted the transcript, for those that may have missed the interview, and to reflect exactly what was said, including stutterings. Nothing to see, just keep moving along.

New info
"I got a great briefing by the special agent in charge; Hernandez".

The congressman said 'Jahidist’. Just typed it the way he pronounced it. Sent link to Ms. Malkin in case she missed the airing. He just spouted what the FBI said and the lead intro of "demanding answers" was a joke.

If I was Adam Smith and these people dismissed my story, I'd be yelling from the tops of the roof exactly what I saw and heard.

And congrats to Iraq and especially to our troops for passing another milestone!


77 posted on 10/15/2005 3:48:34 AM PDT by origlonewolf
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To: LibertyRocks; Alabama MOM; Shadow5644

Thank you for the Ping.

Bump.


78 posted on 10/15/2005 5:30:12 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (Lavender Essential Oil, should be in first aid kit,uses: headaches, sinus,insect bites,sore muscles)
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To: Battle Axe

Re the money trail -- didn't I read earlier that UO's new engineering building was financed by the Saudis?? Follow the money. Cannot offend the donors....


79 posted on 10/15/2005 5:53:01 AM PDT by bboop (Facts are your friend.)
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To: origlonewolf
We’re going to ask a congressman whose determined to get answers tonight.

This is a interview with a congressman who is "determined" to get answers? If Rep Cole was determined he would want the warrant unsealed and made public.

Cole: “Well again I I could understand people being concerned and cautious but the reality is we don’t have any indication that he ever attended the Mosque, quite the opposite, there’s just, there’s no ‘Jahidist’ material uh in the apartment. The fact that he had a Pakistani roommate does indeed seem to be coincidental.
Just simply ah people looking for a way to cut their housing costs together. They weren’t close. They weren’t friends. Uh, we have no note that was left to indicate that, and there’s just simply no indication this was anything other than a suicide.”

Translation: "I understand your concern, there's nothing to see here, just shut up and go away. By the way, pay your taxes and vote for me."
Congressman, just what did the suicide note of this troubled individual say?
80 posted on 10/15/2005 6:06:08 AM PDT by Burf (We'll all be drinkin that free Bubble Up and eatin that Rainbow Stew.)
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