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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

You know I won’t tell, so don’t bother asking me for names, links, or further information. I trust these individuals, and have received accurate information from them before and shared it here on Free Republic. Of course, all are free to either accept or reject what I am about to share, but if you know anything about the Dog, I don’t change my mind often, and my only goal is to pass on information that can help support the Conservative agenda.

Issue 1.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The reasons for this are numerous, and would be embarrassing to the Conservative movement should one or many of the ‘stars’ who we hoped Bush would select be shot down in Committee, which again, if true, would be a certainty.

More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, but the only hint I will provide is that data mining works too damn well these days. What we saw back when Clarence Thomas was nominated would seem like a walk in the park, compared to what would be done to some of our most popular jurists.

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined. There is no one among us who has not done (or had a family member do) things that we either regret, or would rather keep to ourselves. Because none of us are perfect, it is possible that had one of our choices been selected, we might have lived to regret that day for a very long time.

Issue 2.

Arlen Specter is in my opinion, a traitor to the Conservative movement. He has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade. What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election. This promise was made when there was strong consideration for removing Specter’s pending chairmanship in favor of John Coryn, or an extension to the term of Orrin Hatch.

The removal of Specter from the Chairmanship would have been disastrous, because he would have remained a committee member, and would have sided with Democrats against the President’s selections out of spite. So, why not simply remove Specter from the committee? That would have been really bad PR, considering Specter’s health issues at the time these decisions were being made.

One could argue that it might have been best to send up nominee after nominee, even if eventually defeated, but remember that O’Conner is only around hoping for a quick confirmation so that she can be with her ill husband. Bush was under the gun to come up with a confirmable candidate, or risk a Supreme Court not running at full strength as important rulings came under review.

I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, and feels untouchable now that he is ill, because any punitive measures taken against him would be seen as ‘less than compassionate’ by the MSM and Democrats, who admittedly would have a field day, were Specter punished for his duplicity. The sad thing is that after “Scottish Law” or even the “Magic Bullet theory” that some think that anything that Arlen Specter says can be trusted. Sure, he supported Clarence Thomas, but does anyone believe that Specter would still be a Senator if he had not?

Issue 3.

Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Our Republican Senate has as members at least 7 Democrats who could have never gotten elected as Democrats, who nonetheless support the Democrat agenda whenever they can get away with it, which unfortunately due to the weakness of Frist, is all too often. I find myself wishing Tom Delay would run for the Senate against Hutchinson, just so we can have someone in the Senate not afraid to break some heads to get things done. Why can’t we have a Republican Lyndon Johnson when we need one?

Because our Republican Senate is so weak, President Bush cannot rely on them for much. He could not have gotten majority support in this current Senate for any judicial nominee that would have made us proud. The usual suspects have made it clear to the President that any nominee who would have put their re-election prospects at risk would vote against that nominee. The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work. The only job they see before them is that of getting re-elected to another six year term.

Luttig, McConnell, JRB, Owen, Alito, or anyone else you want to name, would have been defeated, and probably defeated in committee, in order to save other Senators from having to vote them down on the floor. Of this, I am now convinced. Only two names were considered allowable for Senate confirmation; Miers and Gonzales. When Bush met with Senators, he was reportedly told that these two names were the only ones that stood a chance to be confirmed, but Gonzales would face pointed questions about Abu Gharab, Gitmo, and the administration’s policy on torture. It would have been ugly, but he would have been confirmed against the added damage done by dejected a dejected conservative base, and liberal attacks on the President’s agenda. There would have also had to be a new search for an Attorney General, which would have been just as ugly.

Had Bush put up selections that would have been defeated, the chorus of ‘Lame Duck’ chanting coming out of Washington would have drowned out the President’s agenda. A defeat in the Senate would have also signaled to Congress that they were on their own, and no longer had to back up, support, or even listen to President Bush. They would have been free to play the political-calculation game that the Democrats have been playing for 6 years; avoiding tough votes that would be used against them in a future campaign.

So, what’s the bottom line?

The bottom line is that Bush did his best to give us what we want, in a way that will not hurt the prospects of the Conservative agenda. The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

In Miers, Bush has clearly taken what he can get, and our best hope now is for another vacancy on the court before this administration’s term is up. The current makeup of the Congress will just not allow our agenda to be passed at this time without major sacrifices and pragmatic thinking to overcome the inherit weakness of having traitors in our midst.

It appears to me that Harriet Miers is the best CONFIRMABLE candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. This fact is not the fault of the President. Indeed it is OUR fault. It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate. We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

Though they literally suck, we are stuck with these people because we must keep the majority to keep our agenda alive. There have been worse moments for us, but none would be worse than than the day we lose the Senate our House majorities. I now believe that although Bush disapointed many of us, that he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic.

Pukin Dog is back, so deal with it.


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To: lentulusgracchus
1. All well and good if you can get some judge nominees to "fall on their sword." I know at least two did not want to go through the confirmation process again.

2. How many times does the point have to be made that the squishy senators do NOT want a fight and won't vote with a conservative nominee, which means a LOSS, and increased prestige and perceived power for the democrats?

3. Any browbeating of a woman would not be shown on TV. The media is too smart for that. Selected clips of the hearings would be shown with liberal "analysis."

All of this armchair strategizing is based on supposition. You suppose that the nominee would stand up to be trashed, you suppose that the Republican senators would vote to confirm (which didn't work too well with John Bolton) and you suppose the television networks would show a woman being browbeatten.

In fact, you ask us to follow your strategy based on faith that it will work. If I have to have faith in someone, I will stand with the President, rather than someone strategizing on his computer.

841 posted on 10/11/2005 7:02:03 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Terpfen; Howlin; Miss Marple; Peach; Congressman Billybob; writer33; concerned about politics; ...
Ping for new information: #840
842 posted on 10/11/2005 7:04:20 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: lentulusgracchus

During the 2000 election, there was much rhetoric about "taking back the Senate" so Conservatives could once again reshape the USSC.

The President declared, from his '04 re-election, he had aquired substantial political capital - so why he is now not willing to expend it upon one held more closely to the conservative right is at the least questionable. If he's reluctant to "spend" that capital NOW on such an important issue as shaping the USSC, what OTHER issue could possibly be more important for which to reserve it?

I'm with you - "There's a monkey's paw on the presidency somehow.."


843 posted on 10/11/2005 7:05:41 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Pukin Dog

kinda thought this might be in the works....

enter Janice.

tough, and would be hard for the Dems to gang up on without looking like lousy racist idiots.


844 posted on 10/11/2005 7:06:34 AM PDT by bitt (THE PRESIDENT: "Ask the pollsters. My job is to lead and to solve problems. ")
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To: Pukin Dog

I won't believe this until it's posted in a thread that begins with "I got this e-mail...." :)


845 posted on 10/11/2005 7:06:56 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: bray
You can bet that every one of those nominees the self appointed Conservative gods wanted are thanking God that GW didn't nominate them.

Absolutely.

846 posted on 10/11/2005 7:07:45 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: bitt
My understanding is that Bush will not put up anyone else.
847 posted on 10/11/2005 7:08:32 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
The word is though, that Miers may be withdrawn by the end of the week.

What a turn around this thread just made!

848 posted on 10/11/2005 7:08:36 AM PDT by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Well, crap.

I guess the only good news out of this is that a Gonzalez nomination isn't going to happen.


849 posted on 10/11/2005 7:09:12 AM PDT by Terpfen (Bush is playing chess. Remember that, and stop playing checkers.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

If he withdraws her, I'm done with them all.

I'm sick of this crap -- and I'm sick of the Buchananites on this site that are intent on running this party in the ground.

Now they are trashing the First Lady; frankly, I don't want to be in a party with people like them running it.


850 posted on 10/11/2005 7:10:16 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Pukin Dog
My understanding is that Bush will not put up anyone else.

Now, that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard on this forum. Just the absolute dumbest.

851 posted on 10/11/2005 7:11:11 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Pukin Dog
Thanks for the update.

At this point I just want all of this gone. I think this is a situation where fubar is the only accurate description.

Sigh.
852 posted on 10/11/2005 7:11:31 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Pukin Dog

Dammit! Just when I was starting to get used to idea of her getting in...ugh! Now we have to go through this again?!?!? I hope the president can find someone in time that can be equal to, or better than, Judge Roberts. (Unfortunately, none of us FReepers could get in there, methinks...LOL.) Is there anyone else being considered for the position?


853 posted on 10/11/2005 7:11:42 AM PDT by Andonius_99
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To: Pukin Dog
I find this extremely disheartening.

I don't know what to think now, if this happens...

President Bush is known for his loyalty....

I hate politics!

854 posted on 10/11/2005 7:12:34 AM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: Guenevere

I'd wait for a credible source before I went off the deep end.


855 posted on 10/11/2005 7:13:39 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Thanks for sharing. I hope you know that I meant 'this year'.
856 posted on 10/11/2005 7:14:34 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
Thanks for sharing. I hope you know that I meant 'this year'.

You are out of your ever loving mind if you think he's going to withdraw her and not immediately put somebody up.

Whoever your "source" is, you need to have their IQ checked.

857 posted on 10/11/2005 7:16:18 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Pukin Dog

Glad you're back, PD, but it's absolute lunacy to believe the president wouldn't send anyone up to replace Connors. I'm not saying that isn't what your source told you, but they are wrong.


858 posted on 10/11/2005 7:17:19 AM PDT by Peach (Go Yankees!)
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To: Andonius_99
Is there anyone else being considered for the position?

Many were considered, most said no, some had 'baggage'. Sandra Day O'Conner will finish out the term. Then Senators can go through this next year RIGHT BEFORE the elections.

859 posted on 10/11/2005 7:17:31 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Guenevere

"I hate politics!"


I love it. More drama than the worst soap opera and, it effects you. Everyday a new story!


860 posted on 10/11/2005 7:17:45 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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