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I was wrong; so please join me in supporting Harriet Miers.

Posted on 10/09/2005 3:28:25 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I decided to end my self-imposed exile from posting due to information that I received this past weekend from ‘a little birdie’ in Washington, which I subsequently had confirmed by another ‘insider’ if you can call him that.

You know I won’t tell, so don’t bother asking me for names, links, or further information. I trust these individuals, and have received accurate information from them before and shared it here on Free Republic. Of course, all are free to either accept or reject what I am about to share, but if you know anything about the Dog, I don’t change my mind often, and my only goal is to pass on information that can help support the Conservative agenda.

Issue 1.

Information was shared with me on Saturday, which described in no uncertain terms that Harriet Miers stands as the only nominee on Bush’s list which has any chance of confirmation by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The reasons for this are numerous, and would be embarrassing to the Conservative movement should one or many of the ‘stars’ who we hoped Bush would select be shot down in Committee, which again, if true, would be a certainty.

More than one of the persons we might have wanted made it clear to the President that they would not accept his nomination if selected. You can draw your own conclusions as to why, but the only hint I will provide is that data mining works too damn well these days. What we saw back when Clarence Thomas was nominated would seem like a walk in the park, compared to what would be done to some of our most popular jurists.

Our Democrat opponents have been quite busy, especially after John Roberts embarrassed them, searching for any information that would allow an open personal attack on a nominee. Sadly, many of the folks we wanted badly would have had their lives destroyed had they attempted confirmation to the bench, and wisely declined. There is no one among us who has not done (or had a family member do) things that we either regret, or would rather keep to ourselves. Because none of us are perfect, it is possible that had one of our choices been selected, we might have lived to regret that day for a very long time.

Issue 2.

Arlen Specter is in my opinion, a traitor to the Conservative movement. He has made it clear to the White House that he is determined to protect his legacy, by NOT supporting any name among those who might make it possible to overturn Rowe V. Wade. What that means, is that had Bush put up someone who might make us proud, Specter reneged on a PROMISE to support Bush’s judicial nominees in return for his, (and especially Rick Santorum’s) support for his re-election. This promise was made when there was strong consideration for removing Specter’s pending chairmanship in favor of John Coryn, or an extension to the term of Orrin Hatch.

The removal of Specter from the Chairmanship would have been disastrous, because he would have remained a committee member, and would have sided with Democrats against the President’s selections out of spite. So, why not simply remove Specter from the committee? That would have been really bad PR, considering Specter’s health issues at the time these decisions were being made.

One could argue that it might have been best to send up nominee after nominee, even if eventually defeated, but remember that O’Conner is only around hoping for a quick confirmation so that she can be with her ill husband. Bush was under the gun to come up with a confirmable candidate, or risk a Supreme Court not running at full strength as important rulings came under review.

I am told that Arlen Specter has gone back on every single promise he made when his chairmanship was still a question, and feels untouchable now that he is ill, because any punitive measures taken against him would be seen as ‘less than compassionate’ by the MSM and Democrats, who admittedly would have a field day, were Specter punished for his duplicity. The sad thing is that after “Scottish Law” or even the “Magic Bullet theory” that some think that anything that Arlen Specter says can be trusted. Sure, he supported Clarence Thomas, but does anyone believe that Specter would still be a Senator if he had not?

Issue 3.

Let’s face it; our Republican Senate is an embarrassment. From the weakness of Frist, to the petulance of the dude who ‘thinks he is leader’ McCain, down to his McCainiac compadre Lindsey (tinker-bell) Graham, to the nut from Mississippi who thinks he can actually get his leadership position back by actively rebelling against the President, we aint looking to good at all.

Our Republican Senate has as members at least 7 Democrats who could have never gotten elected as Democrats, who nonetheless support the Democrat agenda whenever they can get away with it, which unfortunately due to the weakness of Frist, is all too often. I find myself wishing Tom Delay would run for the Senate against Hutchinson, just so we can have someone in the Senate not afraid to break some heads to get things done. Why can’t we have a Republican Lyndon Johnson when we need one?

Because our Republican Senate is so weak, President Bush cannot rely on them for much. He could not have gotten majority support in this current Senate for any judicial nominee that would have made us proud. The usual suspects have made it clear to the President that any nominee who would have put their re-election prospects at risk would vote against that nominee. The bottom line, is that the Republican Senate is made up of too many who want the job, but not the work. The only job they see before them is that of getting re-elected to another six year term.

Luttig, McConnell, JRB, Owen, Alito, or anyone else you want to name, would have been defeated, and probably defeated in committee, in order to save other Senators from having to vote them down on the floor. Of this, I am now convinced. Only two names were considered allowable for Senate confirmation; Miers and Gonzales. When Bush met with Senators, he was reportedly told that these two names were the only ones that stood a chance to be confirmed, but Gonzales would face pointed questions about Abu Gharab, Gitmo, and the administration’s policy on torture. It would have been ugly, but he would have been confirmed against the added damage done by dejected a dejected conservative base, and liberal attacks on the President’s agenda. There would have also had to be a new search for an Attorney General, which would have been just as ugly.

Had Bush put up selections that would have been defeated, the chorus of ‘Lame Duck’ chanting coming out of Washington would have drowned out the President’s agenda. A defeat in the Senate would have also signaled to Congress that they were on their own, and no longer had to back up, support, or even listen to President Bush. They would have been free to play the political-calculation game that the Democrats have been playing for 6 years; avoiding tough votes that would be used against them in a future campaign.

So, what’s the bottom line?

The bottom line is that Bush did his best to give us what we want, in a way that will not hurt the prospects of the Conservative agenda. The primary thing that must be considered, is that the Congress can NEVER be put back in Democrat hands, for that would destroy all progress made up to now. Our day will come, but this aint it. If we had a Republican Senate made up of real patriots without the odd liberal in Republican clothing, things would be a lot better.

In Miers, Bush has clearly taken what he can get, and our best hope now is for another vacancy on the court before this administration’s term is up. The current makeup of the Congress will just not allow our agenda to be passed at this time without major sacrifices and pragmatic thinking to overcome the inherit weakness of having traitors in our midst.

It appears to me that Harriet Miers is the best CONFIRMABLE candidate for the Supreme Court at this time. This fact is not the fault of the President. Indeed it is OUR fault. It is us who have supported less than the best candidates for the Senate. We are responsible for Chaffee, Snowe, McCain, Graham, Lott, Frist and other persons of questionable courage. We should not be blaming Bush for our own votes. We selected the people that the President must rely upon to move his agenda forward. If they are losers, then he loses too.

Though they literally suck, we are stuck with these people because we must keep the majority to keep our agenda alive. There have been worse moments for us, but none would be worse than than the day we lose the Senate our House majorities. I now believe that although Bush disapointed many of us, that he did the very best he could do without destroying our momentum.

Yes, like Rush Limbaugh said, it was a choice made from weakness.

But the thing to remember, is that it was not Bush’s weakness, but our own, and that of the people we have elected to Congress that made this happen. Had they been strong, Bush could have selected anyone we wanted.

Because of what I now know about how and why Harriet Miers was selected, I withdraw my earlier statements against her, my statements suggesting anything less than my strong support of the President, and finally, my self imposed exile from Free Republic.

Pukin Dog is back, so deal with it.


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To: Pukin Dog
If everything you say is true, then what concerns me is that NO consideration was given to OUR reaction. There was no respect for a powerful conservative movement that when allowed greater national articulation, would generate more converts and possibly another great SC justice. So if Bush had indeed picked Brown (my favorite) or one of the many other fabulous choices, she/he would be leading a debate on conservatism and the nature of the Supreme Court, not his sucky pick.
1,061 posted on 10/11/2005 1:12:56 PM PDT by mom.mom
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To: Pukin Dog

Which is why i no longer give to the RNC, etc. Spineless.


1,062 posted on 10/11/2005 1:15:30 PM PDT by bella1
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To: Jim Noble
Jim, you are thinking too much.

Priority one for the Democrats is to deny Bush anything he wants, just because he wants it. That is the only reason they need. They would never give Miers 45 votes. If this week goes like suggested, they wont give her any votes at all.

The information that John Fund has decided to give more clues about than I did, might cause you to rethink this once that ball starts rolling.
1,063 posted on 10/11/2005 1:18:46 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: jla

Laura Bush is a classy woman who played no small role in her husband's election, but the sexism spin is beneath her.


1,064 posted on 10/11/2005 1:22:04 PM PDT by nerdgirl (just say NO to posters who are "stuck on mean")
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To: jla
Uh...the illegal drugs part is not a fact, but a rumor. Probably from the same place as many other unsubstantiated rumors...like his NG record recorded in special Kinkos originated memos.

I think what Miss Marple said is that it got worse during the Reagan administration has become increasingly worse since the Clinton era.

Well...let's be clear. It's gotten significantly worse since the 2000 election. There are an awful lot of people who STILL haven't gotten over that.

If you take a look at major political shifts, the reason is clear. After the Nixon debacle, the left began to believe that absolute power in government was entitled to them. That they were pure and untouchable. That their opposition was not just wrong, but evil.

And then they started to loose.

We need to take a lesson from that, right here, right now.
1,065 posted on 10/11/2005 1:24:09 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Miss Marple
Chaffee will no doubt have a more-conservative primary opponent. If that opponent has half a brain, he will force Chaffee to either commit to supporting Bush's nominees or losing in the primaries, which is what will happen if he does not. If he then turns around and votes against a Bush nominee, then he will lose the general election for lying.

And this is not just about elections, there are spending issues, earmarkes and other considerations like BRAC to be considered as well. Thune gave lots of senators ideas about how to win against the President. Dont think the President didnt learn from that little episode.
1,066 posted on 10/11/2005 1:25:41 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: nerdgirl
I concur. She's not only classy, but pretty and feminine. And as a former librarian she belongs in the nerd category.
1,067 posted on 10/11/2005 1:27:37 PM PDT by jla (I support Aunt Harriet Miers)
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To: nerdgirl

Forgive me, I forgot this: :^)


1,068 posted on 10/11/2005 1:28:31 PM PDT by jla (I support Aunt Harriet Miers)
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To: Pukin Dog
There is interest in the Senate in assigning "lame-duck" status to President Bush to enhance their chances in the mid-term elections.

GOP stupidity is indeed infinite. Conservatives are starting to blame the Senate already, for this pick. And the Senators think that further intrusions on presidential prerogative are going to win them points with constitutional conservatives?

1,069 posted on 10/11/2005 1:30:12 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Pukin Dog
Priority one for the Democrats is to deny Bush anything he wants, just because he wants it. That is the only reason they need.

There is a negative corollary to your excellent point, however.

They want to deny Bush anything he wants, just because he wants it, except if getting what he wants hastens his destruction.

1,070 posted on 10/11/2005 1:30:47 PM PDT by Jim Noble (In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: pollyannaish
Uh...the illegal drugs part is not a fact, but a rumor.

You believe what you wish. GWB has never denied it, he just wouldn't comment.
I know if I hadn't done something I was accused of doing I would say so.
GWB, to his credit, didn't want to lie, so he refused to answer.

It's ok, Pollyannaish, Dubya isn't no Reagan, we all know that. He grew up in a different era. Not that an earlier existence on this planet would have made him comparable to our greatest-ever President.

1,071 posted on 10/11/2005 1:40:50 PM PDT by jla (I support Aunt Harriet Miers)
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To: Jim Noble
except if getting what he wants hastens his destruction.

If Democrats were smart enough to know the difference, they would not be Democrats.

1,072 posted on 10/11/2005 1:42:30 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Excellent Explanation!
Now I can see it very Clearly.
Thanks


1,073 posted on 10/11/2005 1:43:07 PM PDT by NobleEagle2004 ("You Are The 1st Brigade!"StoneWall Jackson)
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To: Pukin Dog
You don't know much about Rhode Island, do you? Your strategy would be exactly right in Indiana (my state). It is a doubtful one in Rhode Island for a couple of reasons.

1. RI GOP is very liberal. Chaffee promising to oppose conservative Bush nominees would probably not cost him the primary.

2. If he got boxed into that promise in the primary, and went ahead and voted against a Bush nominee, he would probably gain a few votes from democrats who figured he had seen the light. I doubt if many Republicans would consider him a liar, especially if he had a nice speech to explain his change of heart.

People like Chaffee are entrenched; they aren't going to leave office until death overtakes them (as it did his father).

1,074 posted on 10/11/2005 1:45:07 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: jla

Sorry I'm not familiar with that type of smiley. I do agree with you about LB - only good thoughts about the woman, and I hope the spinners that be will let her sit this one out.


1,075 posted on 10/11/2005 1:50:33 PM PDT by nerdgirl (just say NO to posters who are "stuck on mean")
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To: Miss Marple
We will just have to disagree on that one. I believe that even if he survived the primary, he would be so damaged that his democrat opponent would carve him up like a roast. I can see the ads now:

"Lincoln Chaffee - If Republicans cant trust him, why should Democrats?"

1,076 posted on 10/11/2005 1:51:58 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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I should note for the record, that I would throw my support to ANYONE, Democrat or Republican who would see Lincoln Chaffee unemployed. That little weasel deserves to get fired.
1,077 posted on 10/11/2005 1:53:31 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: nerdgirl

It's the same as this :) but I insert a nose :^)


1,078 posted on 10/11/2005 1:57:34 PM PDT by jla (I support Aunt Harriet Miers)
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To: jla
Let's put it this way.

We know he was a drinker. We know he had a DUI. Those are facts.

We do NOT know if he experimented or was addicted to cocaine. Just because he didn't confirm or deny it doesn't mean it is true. It is an unknown. He just didn't want to get into that argument one way or another. No answer is not a positive answer.

And for that matter...we don't know, its possible that President Reagan experimented with drugs. He was in Hollywood after all. He never denied it.

And there are ongoing rumors about President Clinton. He's never denied it and even if he did—would we believe him?

So, while this argument is not germane to today's discussions...what IS a big deal is to be factual, and on the use of drugs issue we just don't know. To present that as a fact, is a tad disingenuous and smacks (pun not intended) of an agenda. That is all I am saying.
1,079 posted on 10/11/2005 2:03:07 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Pukin Dog

Told ya so! I still holding my "last" opinion till after the hearings.


1,080 posted on 10/11/2005 2:21:21 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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