Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 9 October 2005

Various big media television networks ^ | 9 October 2005 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, October 9th, 2005

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich; Texas Supreme Court Judge Nathan Hecht; Gary Bauer, president of the American Values Coalition; Dr. Steven Rosenberg, chief surgeon with the National Institutes of Health.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Pat Buchanan, former presidential candidate; Richard Land, president, Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., and Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sens. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., chairman of the Judiciary Committee, and Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., ranking Democrat of the committee; Mike Leavitt, secretary, Health and Human Services.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Sens. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and Richard Durbin, D-Ill.; Mowaffak al-Rubaie, Iraqi national security adviser; the Rev. Pat Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition; Dr. David Nabarro, U.N. bird flu envoy.

[rodguy911]

Can't quite reach that straw over there.

[Pharmboy]

My strategy (were I an advisor to the president) would have been to nominate a rock-rib Republican Conservative woman such as Judge Janice Rogers Brown.

She is of high intellect, and I would have enjoyed watching all the demorats such as Schumer jousting with her; and, if it got ugly, it would be all those white boys on the subcommittee going after an incredible AA woman who came out of very humble beginnings.

Then, if things were hopelessly deadlocked, withdraw the name and pick someone a tad less conservative. That's how we could have won big.

[Fudd Fan]

Ken Starr gave a very enthusiastic endorsement of her a couple of days ago. He has worked with her on several legal cases and thinks she is an excellent choice.

Now THAT is disturbing.

[Phsstpok]

Otherwise media would have reported this. Supreme Court refused to hear librarians associations opposition to turn over library records under Patriot Act. The interesting thing - it was supported by ACLU and more interesting the Justice who dismissed this case is none other than Ruth Bader Ginsburg (previous ACLU lawyer herself) who is incharge of the Connecticut region.

My immediate cynical reaction is that she would not grant cert for this case because she knew the facts of the case would not have won a majority for the ACLU position and that would have set a national precedent, eliminating the possibility of cutting the heart out of the Patriot Act without violating Stare Decisis.

But that's just decades of cynicism talking.

[Fishtalk]

Its the chapter in my book designed to make me feel bad because Im termed Middle Class. Sociology is a study of haves and have nots, and how it is the fault of the haves that that the have nots have not. Make any sense?

Sorta.

But I'm a bit confused.

So you are writing a book? Do tell. I am mine own wise self a writer, one of the better ones. Insert wink here.

And I know what Sociology is. You give a definition of sociology that is what? Your tongue-in-cheek definition? I kinda like it.

Also, you are right about the popular notion that the haves HAVE because they took from the have-nots. Which is not true of course.

Are you going to attempt to blast this notion to kingdom come?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[cardinal4]

Just another way of saying "the Democrat party."

I made that comparison on the class discussion board, and was attacked mercilessly..

[mathluv]

FYI. Chris was on Fox after the show and stated that it came on an hour later than it has been - 6 EDT.

It seemed the object of the panel today was to talk over Brit, making it hard to hear all he had to say.

[cardinal4]

Nothing so dramatic. Im finishing up college for a degree and SOC 101 is required to graduate..

[Pharmboy]

Since we do not have a jurist with a record of decisions and/or intellectual ruminations on key issues that may come before the court, but what we DO have is Dubya telling us she's one of us, looking for signs that she will remain true to these beliefs (with the history of Souter and Kennedy in mind) is a perfectly appropriate and reasonable issue. Reminding people of her major life shifts since we have NOTHING else to go on is FAR from "despicable." Sheesh.

[bray]

Wow, you nailed it and he is leading this lynch mob!!! What a dirtbag.

Pray for W and Harriet Miers

[Morgan in Denver]

That's funny. It does beg the question. Could they give you examples of this not being true? Or, are you now simply among the low class of indivisuals who dares to challenge them?

[Bahbah]

Demo to Pubbie...This does not speak for intellectual consistency--

Is it wise or a demonstration of intelligence to remain a dem in order to maintain intellectual consistency? Who was that famous fellow who said "I didn't leave the Democratic Pary, it left me." (I know the answer to that one.) There is a very large number of former dems who are now committed conservatives and you can find them here at FR. I have no problem with anyone chosing to worship God in any real church. She did not become an athiest or an agnostic, so I am not terribly troubled by a conversion of that kind.

[cardinal4]

Then, if things were hopelessly deadlocked, withdraw the name and pick someone a tad less conservative. That's how we could have won big.

Maybe. I still think we all should settle down and see what the hearings will bring. Fighting amongst ourselves achieves ends only for the kennedys, et al. I wont go to DU, but Im surprised no one has posted their reaction to our bickering..

[Cboldt]

We know nothing about Gonzales other than the media spin on the man.

OTOH, some (few) of us have read his judicial opinions and orders, rather than accept media spin. Gonzales is a judicial activist, given the opportunity. Gonzales and Owen squared off in the Texas parental notification case.

Hecht, Miers' friend, also penned an opinion in that case. It's a good read.

[Iwo Jima]

I assume that any nominee would be consulted and consent to be nominated before hand. But I can't imagine that Luttig or very many other possible nominees who have been in this fight for decades would flinch when duty calls.

If anyone who was asked chose not to be nominated, all they had to do is privately say so. No one need eveer know. And if their personality or circumstances is such that they could not fight the good fight, then it's best for all if they do bow out, because they're not going to be able to withstand the pressures to "go left" that any justice will have to withstand.

Duty to one's country comes in many forms. It's not just a Marine fighting in Fallujah who takes risks and makes sacrifices for his country. I would gladly, joyfully do it (I would have the fun of a lifetime, that's just the trial lawyer in me), but I'm not qualified. You probably cannot imagine anyone going through that ordeal and actually enjoying it, but it takes a certain type of person. There is no shortage of qualified perons who are just itching for the chance to do what you can only see as being a "sacrificial lamb."

That's why there has been such an ourcry. We Were Ready!!! to do battle. And then, the capitulation. And apparently for the rest of our lifetime, which IMO means for the life of the country.

[Seattle Conservative]

"I understand wanting a fight, but picking a fight and LOSING is not going to advance conservatism. It will only embolden the liberals and will possibly cause a real split in the party going into the 2006 elections."

Totally agree with you, Miss Marple. I would add that I think the President continually uses more strategery than most give him credit for. He has an MBA from a school that I suspect taught strategy as part of the program. I also suspect he has read Sun Tsu's book, 'The Art of War' (Tsu Lived: c.500–320. B.C) at least once. Here are some quotes from that book that seem to fit our President's strategery and tactics:

1. Maneuvering with an army is advantageous; with an undisciplined multitude, most dangerous. [RINOs in Senate = undisciplined multitude]

2. Military tactics are like unto water; for water in its natural course runs away from high places and hastens downwards... Water shapes its course according to the nature of the ground over which it flows; the soldier works out his victory in relation to the foe whom he is facing. Therefore, just as water retains no constant shape, so in warfare there are no constant conditions. He who can modify his tactics in relation to his opponent and thereby succeed in winning, may be called a heaven-born captain.

3. If we do not wish to fight, we can prevent the enemy from engaging us even though the lines of our encampment be merely traced out on the ground. All we need do is to throw something odd and unaccountable in his way.

4. Hence that general is skillful in attack whose opponent does not know what to defend; and he is skillful in defense whose opponent does not know what to attack.

5. He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight. He will win who knows how to handle both superior and inferior forces. He will win whose army is animated by the same spirit throughout all its ranks. He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.

6. To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.

7. If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant.

SC

[cake_crumb]

You DO have other information to go on besides her "life shifts". She has a long public history.

[Morgan in Denver]

It sure seems all the Miers complaints, such as church or elitism or female or anything else are all coming from the MSM and a few pundits. I have yet to hear those who know her make that kind of comment nor have I heard it coming from conservatives out here in the red states.

[cardinal4]

Or, are you now simply among the low class of indivisuals who dares to challenge them?

Actually, no. It is about evenly divided. The school, you see is in Orem, Utah, which lends itself to a more conservative campus. Not by much, mind you, but enough that the board evened itself out. Im a distant ed student, I couldnt take the time to attend class regularly (Im too busy working to be "middle class"!) and Utah Valley State has on of the best internet programs Nationwide..

[H.Akston]

LOL. I'm very tired now, of Billy Kristol.