Posted on 10/09/2005 5:13:45 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
What!?!?! The Sunday talking face shows are being critical of the Bush Whitehouse!? Say it isn't so. Hell must have frozen over. That would be kind of like Bill Kristol or Pat Buchanan being critical of the Bush Whitehouse. Never thought I'd see the day. < sarcasm off >
So What.
We get one President at a time and it's his pick. Either you're for her or against her BUT if you're NOT a senator then who cares whar these maroons think?
David Frum was fired by this WH, do you think there might be just a little payback in his newfound fame?
Thanks, anita! I've been defending Bush's right to pick Miers for a week, but didn't point them out as eloquently. Now that you've pointed all the reasons to be pro Miers, here's are some additional reasons the President wants her on the court.
Bush knows full well that picking a staunch conservative will likely trigger a fillabuster and drag this thing out and will possibly result in not getting anyone on the court during the rest of his Presidency. We have too many RINOs in the Senate that he cannot count on and not enough numbers to over-ride a fillabuster.
I know many people argue that they want to have this fight, but I'm not confident we'll win it with the number of spineless GOPers & RINOs. Bush is comfortable with Miers and has put the future of the Supreme Court and his legacy in her hands. He obviously trusts that she'll be a conservative justice. Unless Miers makes huge boners during the hearings, I think it'll be a tragic mistake and weaken Bush if Republicans vote against him to put her on the court.
The majority of posters on this thread are praising and defending the Miers selection.
Her "nays" and "yeas" will be just as strong as Borks would have been, and she might be able to sway a few votes, instead of stodgily holing up in her chambers, as Bork would have done. Bush sensed he needed a Karen Hughes on the USSC. Lets cut him some slack. The bottm line is which side of 5-4 we are on.
Kristol is just COS for Dan Quayle. He tried to capitalise on that and worked to promote McCain. Not worked. Bush never allowed him anywhere near. He joined again with McCain calling Bush to fire Rumsfeld. Failed again. Why thinks Bush would listen to him for anything is a mystery.
Look at these names: Snowe, Chaffee, Collins, Voinovich, Graham, DeWine, Specter, Hagel, McCain, Warner,Lugar, and Vittner(the latter may be trying to bargain his vote for more Louisiana aid).
Are THOSE the troops you will count on to get a conservative judge? Half of them are in states where they either have safe seats or liberal constituents. Some are all about getting favorable press. Some don't like any conflict. A few are bitter that they aren't president.
This is who Bush has had to work with. Do you remember how they courageously passed John Bolton's nomination? Oh, that's right, they didn't, and we had to watch Voinovich crying on the senate floor about how mean John Bolton is.
I assume you also remember how these same courageous senators stood up to the environmentalists and opened drilling in the ANWR. And then we have their speedy confirmation of the conservative judges that President Bush appointed.
I understand wanting a fight, but picking a fight and LOSING is not going to advance conservatism. It will only embolden the liberals and will possibly cause a real split in the party going into the 2006 elections.
snugs, you aren't accounting for the massive EGOs of the "Inside the Beltway" crowd. It's all a very social game, who knows whom and what do they know about them, and what invitations do they receive. Hobnobbing is 'the job' for everyone who's anyone in DC, partisan or ideological positions notwithstanding. Meirs came to town with Pres Bush in '01, worked long days and nights at the WH, then went home. SO she is not part of that crowd, and they find it infuriating.
They are fools if they don't. George Bush and Karl Rove are going to be a force in republican and national politics for the next 25 years.
And some of those republican senators will live to regret the trouble they have caused him.
"but Souter was not GHWB's first choice. Don't recall the name of who he wanted right now (but IIRC it was a conservative).
Was it Bork?"
I'm not sure. I know Bork was President Regan's choice. After getting 'Borked' by the Swimmer, et al, we got Justice Kennedy'.
BTW - Warren Rudman was the other 1 that recommended Souter to GHWB.
The president of the Federalist Society for one, along with Hugh Hewitt for another. There are numerous people who actually know Miers, as opposed to those who don't but are complaining, who support her.
I believe the MSM is making this more of an issue than it deserves, supported by many pundits who don't know her either. The Senate hearings will prove her abilities one way or the other, without our having to rely on the same people who gave us more of Clinton than anyone wanted.
Extremely conservative legal groups are the ones praising her nomination. I'll take their professional opinion of her over a pundit's any day of the week.
You're either with Harriet, or you're with the terrorists. LOL!
Bush really is the Master Strategist! He's set in motion a dynamic in which virtually all the flack is coming from the Right. The Left is either mute or nominally pro-Miers, so far.
The, in the end, when ALL Republican Senators vote for Miers confirmation, voila, 20 years of pro-life, pro-gun, pro-private-property-rights decisions coming from the {Bush} Roberts Court!!
I suspect the poster believes supporting Bush's nomination, and Mier herself, is sufficient proof the supporter is not "really" conservative at all.
Steffie says that the Thomas hearings were a generation ago. I'm getting old fast.
"Miers qualifications for the Supreme Court are nonexistent"
Not only Miers (and reasonable people can argue), but on the Plamegate thing they are spreading crap as well.
Even on Fox News, Brit had his facts wrong. First he said Rove is being called back becasue of ooper's testimony and Rove saying he didn't remember talking to him. It's true during Rove's first GJ appearance he did not recall (no did anyone ask him about it, so he did not deny it). Then Rove was going through emails around the period of Plamegate and found his email to Hadley regarding the call. Rove brought this to the attention of the GJ at that point...well before Cooper testified.
Secondly, Brit said Fitz cut a deal with Miller not to discuss another case Fitz and Miller were involved in (Brit admitted he was guessing). But about a week ago, Miller's prior attorney Abrams admitted it was sources relating to Plame Gate.
Then Juan was just Juan...dense.
They are all doom and gloom on this certain there will be indictments against Rove and Libby. Well they know about as much on this case as we do...and it appears in some case less. I hope Fitz hurries up. There will probably be indictments, but I wouldn't be so sure it's against the WH.
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