Posted on 10/08/2005 4:03:10 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
"This disturbed individual did not attend our mosque and did not get any explosives from us or explosives training, and we did not provide him with target suggestions or promise him eternal reward in Paradise for killing infidels. Only an islamophobic bigot would look for a connection!"
I'm wondering what they found on Hinrich's computer and whether that had anything to do with learning of the threat to NY... I hope they've succeeded in foiling those plans. Last I saw they had 3 or 4 in custody. First reports of the NYC threat detailed looking for 19 operatives (per ABCNews).
Thanks- then I don't need to do that.
To speak bluntly, I'm tired of the whining, the blaming of everyone else, and all the other static from the Muslim community- a community whose more fanatical members bomb, maim, and terrorize the defenseless and innocent.
Go here, go to the "last," and work backwards. It's a lot of reading, but if you don't already have an awareness of this stuff, you will never again view "the religion of peace" in the same light:
As far as I know, this hasn't changed. And IMO, it's something that needs to be looked into very much. Perhaps Carol Cole can use her considerable investigative skills to determine just where Hinrichs was during that time, the same skills she employed to determine that Hinrichs wasn't at the mosque.
This should scare the hell out of all of us. The timing is a great concern. NYC is the target tomorrow and this last week. I think this idiot jumped the gun and blew the time line. ALL of the Norman OK connections AND the Feds are working under sealed warrants.
I'm cleaning my guns tomorrow and staying home. Yes I know that's what they want but I want to be around when the revenge is metered out.
Pass the Pepto, it sickens me too. Channel 9 this morning (despite the fact that they've broken the news of most of the facts we know right now) ran not one but two stories about how "nervous" the Muslim "community" (aka plotters) is and how they stand for "peace."
Has it occurred to these Islamics that maybe we wouldn't be so suspicious of them if only they would quit bombing Westerners and Americans? Even those who haven't bombed anybody (yet) have, either overtly or covertly supported those who have done the bombing. If they're not out in the streets demonstrating against suicide bombers, they're showing a form of support.
When was the last time anyone here heard a Muslim openly, publicly, and loudly denounce terrorists?
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It is all tied together somehow. I hope we find out in time to stop it.
They're trying, NavVet, but freepers are keeping the story on top of the rug so far. I noticed when visiting a verboten website that Jayna Davis is reporting again, and I know her to be a tenacious investigator--if she has anything to do with it, this story won't be easily swept under any rugs!
He was full of shi'ite.
You haven't been reading much about this case, have you?
If I had to speculate, I envision this guy, already depressed and disaffected and unsure of his direction in life, getting upset by the war in Afghanistan in the fall of 2001. Members of the Norman cell, or their fellow travellers at OU, spot the guy and see him as a perfect dupe to be befriended, recruited, and programmed.
By the time the 2002 photo is taken, Joel Henry Hinrichs III is now Jihad Joe.
By the time he returns to school, he is a trained operative going through the motions of continuing his life until he is activated and given orders.
The most recent Al Qaeda videotape, with the American convert issuing the threats, is the signal to his cell that the time has come for Jihad Joe, and other American converts, to wake up and perform their missions.
Muslims need to clean up their neighborhood.
PKM might have a better take on this, but in my experience, the Norman Transcript seems very liberal. I hardly ever buy the paper, unless someone I know is being written about. An article like this is pretty much what I would expect from them.
Norman, in general, seems more liberal than the outlying communities. If bumper stickers are any measure of politics, during the last election I saw a lot more pro-Kerry stickers than pro-Bush stickers. In my opinion, liberals will apologize for almost any outrage, including terrorism. It's all because of their difficult childhoods, or their poverty, etc., according to them.
Have posted the summary on your thread. I also added a few more things before doing it so it's the "updated" update! LOL
I too am tired of the whining... Given the history in Norman you would think they would be putting forth word into the community condemning every act of terrorism that takes place anywhere in the world. But, after all according to their own doctrine lying during a Jihad is "holy".
I pride myself on being non-judgemental, and anti-racist. This whole thing is putting a severe strain on those feelings in regards to followers of this religion. God, please forgive me if I am wrong in my perspective on these things! I am trying to keep in mind that there has GOT to be some in the religion who don't view all followers of other religion as infidels, but all I hear is the same old thing...
I'll try to find the report. I remember hearing it several times, but most notably in a video report. I hope to God it's not the one that's conveniently missing at Ch. 5 now...
I'll have to look for the last message from Zaqwawi? These messages usually come two weeks before an attack. I'll have to go back and read it.
Your last paragraph is excellent. Kissinger agrees with you. This was NOT a pre-emptive strike.
-"...and I hoped that no Muslims were connected to that because we don't need that here," Elyazgi said.-
Sounds like a RUSH TO JUDGEMENT to me.
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