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Muslims feel vindicated by report finding profiling by New Jersey anti-terror cops
AP ^ | 10/7/5 | Wayne Parry

Posted on 10/08/2005 3:58:18 AM PDT by Crackingham

Muslims say a federal report supporting charges that New Jersey counterterrorism officials were compiling reports on Muslims solely because of their religion confirms what they have been claiming for years.

"This shouldn't surprise anyone," said Yaser El-Menshawy, chairman of the Majlis Ash-Shura of New Jersey, the state's council of mosques. "Although it's wrong and it's bad law enforcement, Muslims understand that we have fewer rights than anyone else right now. I'm sure people in law enforcement realize that and know they can get away with things with Muslims that they can't with any other group."

The Institute for Intergovernmental Research, at the request of the U.S. Justice Department, reviewed a dispute in New Jersey over state counterterrorism investigators entering 140 reports into a law-enforcement database.

Fearing they would be accused of racial profiling after being ordered by the federal government to halt the practice of targeting motorists based on race, New Jersey state police prohibited the state's Office of Counter-Terrorism from entering any more of their intelligence reports into the database.

On Monday, state police yanked 14 troopers from the counterterror office, prompting acting Gov. Codey to intervene in what he called a turf war between state agencies, undoing some of the moves and stripping the state Attorney General's Office of much power over the anti-terror agency.

The report, obtained by The Star-Ledger of Newark and The Record of Bergen County, found no specific terrorist or criminal activity that would justify including the individuals and organizations in the anti-terror database. It added that state police "acted responsibly in removing the 140 submissions" from the database.

Auditors from the Florida-based Institute for Intergovernmental Research, which has several contracts to do similar review work for the Justice Department, met with representatives of New Jersey state police and the attorney general's office, who described the reports to them. The auditors did not view the actual reports because they do not have security clearance.

The counterterrorism office has denied that the reports constituted profiling, claiming the documents were incomplete and that state police misunderstood how they were being compiled. Spokesmen for the state police, attorney general's office and counterterrorism office declined to comment on the report Friday.

"How can American citizens be treated like this just because of their religion in the land of freedom?" asked Mohamed Younes, president of the American Muslim Union and an elder in Paterson's Muslim community. "This has been our biggest problem, and it is absolutely wrong."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: New Jersey; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; racialprofiling; terrorism
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1 posted on 10/08/2005 3:58:19 AM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham
New Jersey counterterrorism officials were compiling reports on Muslims solely because of their religion confirms what they have been claiming for years.

As a practical matter, this is a problem how. . .? They sure as hell profile us on the basis of our religion.

2 posted on 10/08/2005 4:02:24 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Crackingham
The auditors did not view the actual reports because they do not have security clearance.

IF they cannot view the actual reports how can they determine that there is something wrong? Auditors that can't audit the necessary paperwork to make appropriate determinations and then claim improper profiles are added to the database? Somebody needs to get these worthless fools off the payroll.

3 posted on 10/08/2005 4:05:56 AM PDT by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: Crackingham
Looking for Muslim terrorists amongst Muslims? Well who would have thought?
4 posted on 10/08/2005 4:13:17 AM PDT by been_lurking
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To: been_lurking

"Looking for Muslim terrorists amongst Muslims? Well who would have thought?"

Right ON!


5 posted on 10/08/2005 4:16:18 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: Crackingham

I think we should stop profiling these people , round them up and put them in intern camps.

Why don't they stop bitching about profiling and help us? Because they support the terrorist .

Screw them!


7 posted on 10/08/2005 4:24:03 AM PDT by RocketJsqurl
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"Although it's wrong and it's bad law enforcement..."

Uh, no it's not.


8 posted on 10/08/2005 4:40:05 AM PDT by Avenger
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9 posted on 10/08/2005 4:41:06 AM PDT by msnimje (If you suspect this post might need a sarcasm tag..... it does!)
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To: GBoettner
Kobar Towers - Muslim terrorists
USS Cole - Muslim terrorists
1st attempt @ WTC - Muslim terrorists
9/11 - Muslim terrorists
Spain train - Muslim terrorists
UK Subway - Muslim terrorists

Damn right they need profiled!

You got that right!

Lets see, what kind of police force would, after a murder has been committed by a black man, witnessed by several people, begin their search by looking for a white man? Hmmm?

Damit, it's not racial or religious profiling, it's CRIMINAL PROFILING for godssake.

10 posted on 10/08/2005 4:42:38 AM PDT by mc5cents
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The auditors did not view the actual reports because they do not have security clearance.

No need to read the article beyond that sentence. Amazing.

11 posted on 10/08/2005 4:47:52 AM PDT by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: Crackingham
In these times,not all Muslims are terrorists,but all terrorists are Muslims!
12 posted on 10/08/2005 4:57:36 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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I sure hope someone is profiling them, and I hop someone is listening in on their mosques. If they wish to be Americans thats fine, If they want to preach hate and aid to terrorists it needs to be torn down.


13 posted on 10/08/2005 5:07:19 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: mc5cents; RS
Lets see, what kind of police force would, after a murder has been committed by a black man, witnessed by several people, begin their search by looking for a white man? Hmmm?

That's right. Blacks have committed murders...stop looking at whites! Look at blacks solely based on their race.





need I add </sarc>?

14 posted on 10/08/2005 5:19:11 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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Beware, little old ladies in wheelchairs terrorists groups!


15 posted on 10/08/2005 5:29:13 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: mc5cents
"Lets see, what kind of police force would, after a murder has been committed by a black man, witnessed by several people, begin their search by looking for a white man? Hmmm?"

Paging Chief Moose, Paging Chief Moose
16 posted on 10/08/2005 5:39:14 AM PDT by sticker
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To: Crackingham
Until muslims get ticked about their own people that are out to destroy the world and then do something effective about it they will never be vindicated. These morons need to change their attitude and wake up.
17 posted on 10/08/2005 5:55:24 AM PDT by RDTF
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To: Crackingham
Muslims feel vindicated, and Americans feel better protected.
A fair exchange. What's more important? Hurt feelings or lost lives?

Stand by for more, LOL!

18 posted on 10/08/2005 5:58:20 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Gondring
Do you have AADS?
Are you and adult?
19 posted on 10/08/2005 6:00:54 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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-"This shouldn't surprise anyone," said Yaser El-Menshawy-

Actually, I'm surprised they had the sense to do it!


20 posted on 10/08/2005 7:40:25 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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