Posted on 10/07/2005 7:35:38 AM PDT by Sopater
University of Idaho President Tim White has entered the debate pitting Charles Darwin's theories of life against religious-based alternatives by forbidding anything other than evolution from being taught in the Moscow school's life, earth and physical science classes.
"This (evolution) is the only curriculum that is appropriate to be taught in our biophysical sciences," he wrote. "Teaching of views that differ from evolution may occur in faculty-approved curricula in religion, sociology, philosophy, political science or similar courses. However, teaching of such views is inappropriate in our life, earth, and physical science courses."
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Liberals. (sigh)
Some things never change.
Evolution is a scientific theory, not a philosophical world view.
"if it can't offer a scientific response to the question of how the "intelligence" came to be."
Understood but I don't think that changes anything. Where did the matter and energy from the "Big Bang" come from? Anyone?
What does that have to do with the theory of evolution?
Merriam-Webster defines religion as:
a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith.
UI President Tim White has his own brand of religion: Evolution.
"so... if i get your reply (thank you btw), you are infavor of teaching people that the only way things happenned was by a manner that you beleive is incorrect.
so you advocate teaching falsehoods?"
No. Evolution is true. God is true.
I don't believe there is any conflict. There is clear evidence that more complex life eveolved from simpler life. God has not left proof that he guided this evolution that we can document sicntifically.
If we teach kids that whatever we don't understand must be God then that just encourages giving up on scientific exploration. What if that had been the attitude in 1800? Think of all the things we didnt understand then.
It's like that now too. If we close off science and use God as a reason to not try to understand we hurt ourselves and I can't believe that God wants that.
Poppycock. They can teach your belief in "religion, sociology, philosophy, political science or similar courses". How many classes covering your belief do you want?
Greedy.
Science classes are for science.
Evolution should be taught in science class, creationism / ID should be taught in religion or philosophy class.
Isn't this the same mentality which convicted Galileo to life imprisonment for arguing that Coppernicus was right and that the Earth and planets DID revolve around the Sun? Ironicly enough, this time it's the secular authorities repressing alternitive views becasue they may be tained with a religious componant, rather than the other way around as with Galileo.
a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith.
UI President Tim White has his own brand of religion: Evolution.
So your point is that religion shouldn't be taught in science classes, correct?
Did you miss that part where such discussions can be covered "in religion, sociology, philosophy, political science or similar courses"?
How long have you been reading?
There is political pressure being applied from some quarters to force them to do so.
Science ain't about philosophical worldviews genius. The university simply resricts its science classes to science. That's it. That's all there is to it.
The study of the universe cannot be separated into little compartments if it is to be fully understood. Science and metaphysics (not religion per se) can go hand in hand; I don't understand what's the big deal.
Are they still going to allow the teaching of cosmology? I'm no expert by any means, but I thought cosmology was both an age-old & born-again science which inquires about the physical origins of the universe, the grand & minute nature of the universe, and humanity's role in it. Isn't cosmology based on the presumption that the universe was created, and that there is a purpose for its creation?
(Please be gentle if responding; I'm just curious.)
"Otherwise we should all be microbes, single-celled creatures, and we wouldn't even be HAVING this conversation."
Where are the billions of transitional forms demonstrating the changes between the single-celled cretures and modern forms as seen today?
Universities are no longer about thought and education. They have become nothing but indoctrination centers for the stupid.
He simply stated the University's rule that the topics in the biophysical science class will contain only the relevant science. They'd do and say the same to address any other attempted corruption.
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