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The Miers Misstep: What was President Bush thinking?
WSJ Opinion Journal ^ | October 06, 2005 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 10/06/2005 2:24:09 AM PDT by AntiGuv

That having been said, the Meirs pick was another administration misstep. The president misread the field, the players, their mood and attitude. He called the play, they looked up from the huddle and balked. And debated. And dissed. Momentum was lost. The quarterback looked foolish.

The president would have been politically better served by what Pat Buchanan called a bench-clearing brawl. A fractious and sparring base would have come together arm in arm to fight for something all believe in: the beginning of the end of command-and-control liberalism on the U.S. Supreme Court. Senate Democrats, forced to confront a serious and principled conservative of known stature, would have damaged themselves in the fight. If in the end President Bush lost, he'd lose while advancing a cause that is right and doing serious damage to the other side. Then he could come back to win with the next nominee. And if he won he'd have won, rousing his base and reminding them why they're Republicans.

The headline lately is that conservatives are stiffing the president. They're in uproar over Ms. Meirs, in rebellion over spending, critical over cronyism. But the real story continues to be that the president feels so free to stiff conservatives. The White House is not full of stupid people. They knew conservatives would be disappointed that the president chose his lawyer for the high court. They knew conservatives would eventually awaken over spending. They knew someone would tag them on putting friends in high places. They knew conservatives would not like the big-government impulses revealed in the response to Hurricane Katrina. The headline is not that this White House endlessly bows to the right but that it is not at all afraid of the right. Why? This strikes me as the most interesting question.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: harrietemiers; harrietmiers; imvotinghillary; miers; noonan; scotus
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To: finnigan2
I believe that Meir's will turn out to be a stealth candidate for the fans of strict constitutional interpretations, and Bush will have put another slider over the outside corner of the plate.

Maybe he shouldn't be putting sliders on the outside corner of the plate when the people who voted for him are the ones at bat.

181 posted on 10/06/2005 6:15:26 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Stuck on Genius)
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To: beyond the sea

No. Has nothing to do with him.


182 posted on 10/06/2005 6:15:54 AM PDT by zook
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To: AntiGuv
I just resent people saying Reagan did this or that or would never do this or that.

That 1986 Tax Reform written by Bill Bradley was a disaster.

Listening to certain talk show hosts tho, Reagan is their deity, facts be ignored!!!

183 posted on 10/06/2005 6:18:10 AM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: unsycophant
There were dozens of references made about Miers being on the short list before her name was announced. It's not like President Bush just plucked her name out of thin air and pulled a fast one on the poor pundits.

Yep.  Could have been dozens, but I certainly do remember hearing more than a few.

I suppose our Republican intelligentsia simply didn't believe Bush might actually pick someone who lives and thrives outside their range of expectations.

I'm really disappointed in the talking heads that we've all come to rely on to be our public voices for so many years, because I never believed the clique would shout down their own side in such a shabby way.

Me too.

At the very least, the other side is giggling in the cloak room.  Some may even hope for an open civil war, one they can exploit next year.

The Meirs appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee will be incredibly important, I think.  Bet it gets better ratings than Desperate Housewives.

184 posted on 10/06/2005 6:20:27 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: saganite
Someday the bushbots are going to realize that calling everyone names that don't agree with the President is not a winning tactic.

Unintentionally hilarious.

185 posted on 10/06/2005 6:20:32 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: saganite
You consider the term bushbot a derogatory name? Interesting.

"Interesting"? It's blatantly obvious that "bushbot" is a derogatory name. If you disagree, care to define what you mean by "bushbot"?

186 posted on 10/06/2005 6:21:21 AM PDT by XJarhead
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To: OldFriend

Reagan had to deal with Dem congresses, and was working valiantly to shift the entire course of American politics. Moreover, the difference between Reagan and GWB is that when someone on the right wants to slam Reagan, they have to nitpick out a bare handful of policy items out of a grand 8 year record, but when someone on the right wants to slam Bush they just need to open their eyes for a quick glance at his actual policies..


187 posted on 10/06/2005 6:23:21 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv

Yeah, the outcry from the punditocracy has been pretty amazing. I love how the bots pile on Coulter, who they previously worshipped when she dared criticize the President. BTW, has Hannity weighed in for or against Miers yet?


188 posted on 10/06/2005 6:23:45 AM PDT by jjm2111 (99.7 FM Radio Kuwait)
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To: finnigan2
The real opposition is coming from the Pat Buchanan wing of the Republican Party who look on politics as some sort of gladiatorial combat to the death instead of being, "the art of the possible".

Nice philosophy. Good thing you weren't around for the Continental Congress, the Civil War, D-Day, the Manhattan Project, etc. etc. etc.

If it's not worth fighting for, it's not worth having. Or to put a biblical spin on it, "God spits out the lukewarm".

189 posted on 10/06/2005 6:26:10 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Stuck on Genius)
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To: unsycophant
****There were dozens of references made about Miers being on the short list before her name was announced. ****

That's baloney.

The only short list she was on was the one Harry Ried prepared for Dubya to pick from.

190 posted on 10/06/2005 6:26:43 AM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: AntiGuv

What was he thinking? He was thinking, "Man, I hate that bully Harry Reid. But maybe if I give him my lunch money one more time he'll leave me alone."


191 posted on 10/06/2005 6:27:04 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: goldstategop
"If the President owed any favors, it was to the base."

Poll: Support for Miers not as high as that for Roberts

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Americans, particularly conservatives, are less supportive of President Bush's nominee to the Supreme Court than they initially were for his nomination of John Roberts, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Tuesday night.

The poll, taken Monday and Tuesday, indicated many people are concerned about Miers' lack of judicial experience.

Asked to rate Bush's nomination of Miers, 44 percent of those polled described it as excellent or good, while 41 percent said it was fair or poor and 15 percent had no opinion.

Among respondents who described themselves as conservative, 58 percent said the Miers pick was excellent or good, and 29 percent thought it was only fair or poor. By contrast, 77 percent of conservatives in a July poll thought the Roberts nomination was excellent or good, and just 13 percent found it fair or poor. ( )

Fifty eight percent approval from those who identified themselves as conservatives...the base has been appeased.

192 posted on 10/06/2005 6:27:26 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: jjm2111
I love how the bots pile on Coulter, who they previously worshipped when she dared criticize the President.

Gawd, hope someone skips posting the obligatory picture of that scrawny caterwaul..

193 posted on 10/06/2005 6:27:41 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: AntiGuv
Raising taxes and granting amnesty to illegals is nitpicking?

I give up, logic eludes too many on this topic.

194 posted on 10/06/2005 6:28:20 AM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: jjm2111

Hannity has hosted discussion about Miers on his programs, but so far as I've seen he hasn't weighed in with his own view yet.


195 posted on 10/06/2005 6:29:11 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: ThirstyMan

Who went up against Goliath? It wasn't the mightiest. It was a boy. With God. And a rock.


196 posted on 10/06/2005 6:29:29 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: OldFriend
Reagan slashed taxes before he raised them, and never raised them to what they were before he slashed them. Not only that, but his policies totally reshaped the entire tax policy debate ever since.

The policy on illegals was wrong, and I thought so then, but in Reagan's defense I will say that it was a far lesser problem then than it is now.

But most important of all, Reagan had to deal with Democratic congresses, not with the Republican congresses Bush gets to have.

And, again, my point was that you look at the totality of Reagan's record by comparison to the totality of Bush's record and its not even in the same ballpark. Reagan's is the one way over to Bush's right..

197 posted on 10/06/2005 6:34:00 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: SolutionsOnly
I agree. If Peggy is a moonbat then count me in on this round. I strongly support Bush, worked on his campaign and contributed the maximum to his campaign.

But this is the most forseeable trainwreck I could ever imagine.

They know damn well in the Whitehouse that this nomination would tick off the base given the number of proven conservatives on the deep judicial bench.

Harriet Miers may turn out to be a terrific Justice; I hope she will.

But the President gave the finger to the conservative base as far as I'm concerned. Fool me one (Souter) shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Between this master stroke of stupidity combined with excessive spending, no immigration policy, etc., I'm wondering how long conservatives (not Republicans) but CONSERVATIVES will fall on their swords out of loyalty.

Principle, not party my friends.

198 posted on 10/06/2005 6:36:52 AM PDT by CWW (Mark Sanford for President on 2008!)
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To: safisoft; AntiGuv
If Janice Rogers Brown were the nominee the acclaim would be virtually unanimous around here. Just something to ponder.

You are so correct. It is too bad that the White House has such calloused, or such idiotic advisors that they did not tell our "compassionate conservative" President that was the case.

I just re-read Janice Rogers Brown's Whiter Shade of Pale, and it triggered a germ of an idea.

Janice Rogers Brown thinks big government is a problem. She also has a history of judicial restraint. In comparison, assuming that Ms. Miers would practice judicial restraint, I am not sure that she sees a problem with big government. That difference in attitude could color her judicial opinions.

For me, I object to big/centralized domestic control in general. Of course it is more objectionable when the control comes from the Court rather than from Congress, but judicial restraint may not be "enough" to reverse the course of government growth.

199 posted on 10/06/2005 6:38:51 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Mo1
Mo1 writes:
Why can't you all just believe that he thinks Harriet Miers is the best person for the bench?

Because she obviously _is not_.

There is never "a best" person for the bench. There _is_ a pool of qualified candidates, depending on your own personal political persuasion. Draw from that pool, and you _may_ end up with a very good appointment.

To pick a crony and ignore the pool reflects upon the decision-maker as well as the choice.

When G. Bush the first picked Souter, he gave the perfect example of what happens when one ignores the pool of qualified conservative candidates and makes a choice that one _hopes_ will work out. In that case, it didn't.

Maybe Ms. Miers will surprise us all. I hope so. But I expect otherwise.

- John

200 posted on 10/06/2005 6:43:02 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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