The car identified as that of suicide bombing victim Joel Henry “Joe“ Hinrichs III, is parked in the parking lot behind his apartment in Norman Wednesday. Photo by Steve Sisney
Posted on 10/05/2005 6:03:56 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana
It's TEAM work.
Note to all...
One of the video links appears blank now, but it is a correct video link, so I left it in my links.
It may just be a bandwidth issue.
FYI.
You're welcome Ros.
Here we go again....hey..VIKING KITTIES only sit in the litter box so long. After we do our biz..we jump out and run like crazy throughout the house just because we feel like it. Don't upset our chaos and chattering with your reason right now. "I Feel Good..I knew that I would now..I Feel Good..I knew that I would..so good..so good..I feel good...LOL
ROFLOL!! That was a terrific analysis!
And still are now (2:23 AM EDT). Just viewed them myself. Interesting stuff, to be sure...
the infowarrior
Some people don't want others to have fun at almost 1:30 in the morning!
i know..it reminds me of that saturday night live sketch of the 'downer couple'...lol
Can you post a brief transcript please, infowarrior? A detailed one would be great but a brief one should do the trick considering the time right now. I am trying to replay the videos to transcribe them but am having absoluly no luck in getting the videos to play. The script text linns below the videos are just one-liners and are of no help.
TIA if it is not too much of a problem.
Move along!!
As I stated on another thread, "If people quit going to football games becasue they were afraid of being a terror victim, it would send this country into recession." This is a huge business.
Sorry if this is a repost:
http://www.newsok.com/article/1634950/?template=home/main
Thu October 6, 2005
Officer had clue before OU blast
By Randy Ellis and Ty McMahan
The Oklahoman
NORMAN - Police here last week missed a chance to investigate a University of Oklahoma student three days before he apparently blew himself up Saturday outside the university’s packed football stadium, The Oklahoman has confirmed.
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Joel “Joe” Henry Hinrichs III raised the suspicions of a Norman feed store manager and an off-duty Norman police officer Sept. 28 when he tried to buy the type of fertilizer used in the 1995 bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building.
The off-duty officer, who just happened to be in the store, was concerned enough about Hinrichs’ demeanor that he jotted down his license tag number and called the police department to check his identity, officials said.
“Normal protocol is for that officer to submit an intelligence report when he comes back on duty,” said Lt. Tom Easley, spokesman for the Norman Police Department. “My understanding is that when the officer did return to work, he did submit one, but that was after the fact.”
The bomb had already gone off.
Hinrichs, 21, is believed to have died in an explosion about 7:30 p.m. Saturday on a campus bench about 100 yards from Gaylord Family - Oklahoma Memorial Stadium. Investigators are treating the death as a suicide. He was a junior engineering major.
Easley declined to release the intelligence report or name the officer who filed it, saying intelligence reports are confidential. A copy of the report was turned over the FBI, he said.
Dustin Ellison, general manager of Ellison Feed & Seed, said Hinrichs came to his store about 4 p.m. Sept. 28 and said he was looking for a particular kind of fertilizer called ammonium nitrate.
“I told him I didn’t have that,” said Ellison, 25.
Ellison said he became suspicious when the young man couldn’t answer the most simple questions, such as how much he wanted or what he planned to do with it.
“I asked if he was trying to green up his yard, and he said, ‘Something like that,’” Ellison said.
Hinrichs was wearing blue jeans, a T-shirt and a light green vest with a number of pockets on each side when he visited the store, Ellison said.
“All the pockets were full,” Ellison said, adding that he saw what appeared to be a wire with headphones attached protruding from one pocket.
“I don’t have any reason to believe it was anything other than that,” he said.
Ellison said Hinrichs was alone and calm throughout his visit.
Hinrichs drove off in a blue Lincoln Towncar, Ellison said.
Ellison said FBI agents came by his store Sunday and he identified Hinrichs from photos.
Easley, the Norman police spokesman, said he is skeptical police could have stopped the bombing, even if they immediately had begun investigating when the officer first called in the license number.
“Seventy-two hours on a piece of intelligence like that, I don’t know what we could have done anyway,” he said.
Officers could have used the tag number to get an address and then checked to see whether it was current, Easley said.
If they could identify a current address, they could have tried to question him, but that doesn’t mean Hinrichs would have had to answer, he said.
Intelligence reports normally are forwarded to the police department’s special operations unit, which categorizes them and decides what to do next, Easley said.
The unit deals mostly with drug investigations, so the information probably would have been forwarded to counter-terrorism officials to evaluate, he said.
Hinrichs’ Towncar remained outside his Norman apartment Wednesday.
The FBI apparently collected 13 plastic bottles, one car title and one insurance form from the car, according to paperwork on the front seat.
There also was a large atlas and several road maps on the front seat.
Cesar Robledo, Hinrichs’ next-door neighbor, said FBI agents questioned him about Hinrichs’ personality and habits, but didn’t ask about his religion or any materials he may have taken into the house.
“We always say, ‘What do they do over there?’ They don’t talk to us, so we don’t know,” said Robledo, 22. “We have no idea what’s on that side of the wall.”
I see your point. I would like to think they could implement stronger security measures. Maybe not.
I've put a few thousand miles on the Mother Road myself, thus the name.
Actually, it was from some research I was doing a long time ago and I kept coming up with places all along Route 66, which was really coincidental. Then I realized that nearly all the members of my family, myself included, had at one time or another lived along or within a few miles of Route 66, plus the logo itself relates to the company I grew up within, as well as my name.
It has always held a special place in my heart and I have lots of books and memorabilia connected to it. Maybe someday will do the whole drive, like I've seen some on the 'Net have done. Now I'm a long ways from it, but lots of people know it as my hat.
NO..the American people would not quit going to games..UNLESS,they start feeling like the authorities have no care for their safety and want the bucks more than they want the fans to be safe. You tell me? No recession on the horizon..If games got that bad..they would only put it on TV to the masses for a fee and collect the monies that way.
Football will never give into terrorists!
Some other interesting facts about the Sikhs...
All adult males adopt the surname Singh, which in their language means "Lion"...
No adult Sikh male is clean shaven. They all wear beards...
So, if your local convenience store manager is a dark-complected, bearded guy in a turban, whose nametag reads Singh, breathe a sigh of relief, as he is (a 99.9% probability), a Sikh, and a devout one at that. And as indcon has stated, there is little love lost between the Sikhs and "La Cosa Islam"...
the infowarrior
Can any of you access the mp3 911 tapes listed at the bottom of the right-hand column on this page;
http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/5063479/detail.html
Same for the one video "Learning about Hinrichs" a little farther up in their video section?
Someone earlier mentioned saving these before they went away... looks like it's already starting to happen, at least at Ch. 5.
Thank you maggief for posting that informative article.
So the kid probably had an ipod, not some "wires" sticking out of his vest. Lots of kids keep their ipods in their pockets with the earphones hanging out.
Additionally, the article makes no mention of the kid talking to himself. Earlier there was mention that he had done that. Here he is "calm".
Finally, the neighbors were sufficiently suspicious to even wonder , "what do they do in there?". Normally, one doesn't think too much about neighbors unless something is unusual about their appearance, demeanor or behavior.
"I can't find anything about entering the stadium."
Video link:
http://newsok.com/video/1634950/
I was at the stadium in section 16 of the north endzone, row 58... it was really loud & everybody on the top rows looked over the edge to see what just blew up... at halftime, I went down to the concourse under the north side of the stadium for a cigarette and the stadium security wasn't letting anybody out.. I am very interested to see what comes of his conspirators, as I will be attending the OU/TEXAS game this weekend.
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