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Diplomat 'was real Shakespeare' (latest theory on "true" Shakespeare in new book)
The BBC ^ | October 4, 2005

Posted on 10/05/2005 11:38:17 AM PDT by Stoat

Diplomat 'was real Shakespeare'

 

William Shakespeare
The authorship of Shakespeare's plays has often been questioned
An Elizabethan diplomat named Sir Henry Neville was the real author of William Shakespeare's plays, a new book claims.

The Truth Will Out: Unmasking the Real Shakespeare says the courtier, nicknamed "Falstaff" by close friends, used Shakespeare as a "front man".

The book by Brenda James and Professor William Rubinstein contains a foreword by Mark Rylance, artistic director of Shakespeare's Globe Theatre in London.

Many experts remain sceptical at claims to have found the "real" Shakespeare.

Jonathan Bate, professor of Renaissance Literature at the University of Warwick, said there was "not the slightest shred of evidence" to back the book's argument.

The authors claim:

 

  • Neville's ancestors, including King Edward III and John of Gaunt, are described with such accuracy in the history plays that they could only have been written by someone with specialist knowledge.

     

  • As a director of the London Virginia Company, Neville had access to a 20,000-word letter about the Bermuda Shipwreck of 1609, thought to have inspired The Tempest two years later.

     

  • The plays attributed to Shakespeare could only have been written by someone deeply familiar with court life, Elizabethan politics, Italy and France.

"This is a pioneering book," wrote Mark Rylance in his foreword.

"No one has considered this candidate before as the author of the works attributed to Shakespeare.

"You will not be alone in having your image of the author shaken by these pages, as I have."

Mark Rylance
Actor Mark Rylance has written a foreword to The Truth Will Out
Ms James told Radio 4's Today programme: "Every step of Neville's life coincides with the themes and chronology of Shakespeare's plays.

"I did not go out to find another candidate - he found me."

Ms James is a former English lecturer at Portsmouth University and Professor Rubinstein is a history professor at the University of Wales, Aberystwyth.

But their claims were rubbished on Today by Professor Bate, a governor of the Royal Shakespeare Company.

"These arguments always fall back on verbal parallels, which never stand up," he said.

Henry Neville is one of several Elizabethan figures to have been mooted as the "real" Shakespeare.

Others include philosopher Francis Bacon, nobleman Edward de Vere and playwright and poet Christopher Marlowe.



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To: coconutt2000
Perhaps there is a possibility that Shakespeare was not the sole author of his plays, but that he had a muse... a patron or partner that provided Shakespeare with the stories that he turned into poetic plays.

Actually, many if not most of Shakespeare's plots came from old stories. Like any great artist, he built his work on the work of others. And like any great artist, it's what he did with that work that separates him.

21 posted on 10/05/2005 12:40:28 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Stoat

I have a theory about the identity of the real Shakespeare:








Shakespeare.


22 posted on 10/05/2005 12:44:09 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Stoat

Sorry they're all wrong, I was Shakespeare in one of my first incarnations. :)


23 posted on 10/05/2005 12:45:09 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: Stoat
Ridiculous. Everyone knows that the Earl of Oxford was Shakespeare.
24 posted on 10/05/2005 12:54:24 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: Stoat
I've been doing some reading on my own re this subject at this site. Check here also. I don't know yet if I subscribe to the 'Bacon was Shakespeare' theory, but it makes for very interesting reading.
25 posted on 10/05/2005 1:08:51 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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To: nickcarraway

Put me on your ping please.


26 posted on 10/05/2005 1:11:30 PM PDT by Borges
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To: twigs

I didn't say that I was still convinced.


27 posted on 10/05/2005 1:13:08 PM PDT by sine_nomine (CBS' Mary Mapes: "It dawned on me that I was present at the birth of a political jihad.")
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To: CATravelAgent

That went around a few years ago.


28 posted on 10/05/2005 8:20:45 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Free choice is not what it seems)
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To: nickcarraway
More details here ...

http://www.theage.com.au/news/arts/unmasked-the-real-shakespeare/2005/10/05/1128191785837.html#

29 posted on 10/06/2005 11:26:27 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: nickcarraway
"If you compare Shakespeare's writing to Bacons's, it's very clear the same person did not write both."

But they did say some of the same lines, e.g., "Love doth much mischief" and others. Now these expressions may have been the common currency of their time, like the maxim "a penny saved is a penny earned" is for our time, but it is shocking when you read Bacon saying the same lines as Shakespeare.
30 posted on 10/20/2005 12:46:37 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: nickcarraway; Berosus; ValerieUSA; blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Turns out that Sir Henry Neville's was just a case of life imitating art.

So, once we get the last name, we'll know who really wrote the plays. :')


31 posted on 12/02/2005 10:45:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Wednesday, November 2, 2005.)
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The Truth Will Out: Unmasking the Real Shakespeare by Brenda James and Professor William D. Rubinstein

32 posted on 12/02/2005 10:53:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Wednesday, November 2, 2005.)
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To: blam

David Keys alert.

aculeus wrote:
More details here ...

http://www.theage.com.au/news/arts/unmasked-the-real-shakespeare/2005/10/05/1128191785837.html


33 posted on 12/02/2005 10:54:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Wednesday, November 2, 2005.)
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