Internet Blocked By CIA (Your IP is being logged) (Vanity)

[md2576]

I'm not one to normally complain on FR about freedoms that have been lost since the 9/11 attacks.

But...

We talk about the communist country of China and how they don't have free internet access.

Last night I was reading through some threads and started doing some Jihad research and came up with one of Al-Qaeda's web site's called Jihad Media Battalion.

I typed the url www.k-j-i.tk and it said "could not be found"

So I Googled Jihad Media Battalion and came up with katiba.100free.com/default.html

When I went to this site it started to bring up there site but I was then immediately sent to the c.i.a. website which said in the url  bar that my I.P. was being logged.

Now this scares me because, not only have I been censored to  research against the terrorists that we are fighting, but now I am made to feel as if I am being examined as a criminal now because I was looking at that site.

So it makes me feel like the c.i.a. is wondering and perhaps investigating what my motives were for visiting the site.

Now I, like many, would normally feel grateful that the c.i.a. is ay least intelligent enough to know about the site and we would want them to do there best to find any home grown Jihadist's.

But.

I felt like my freedoms and right to privacy were smashed and that I could be a suspect by the "thought police".

Some other url's that I found through Google are below but I don't want to go research our enemy because it might incriminate me. I have not visited the below links so I have no clue what they are. I am sure they are all Al-Qaeda links.

 Use at own risk.

http://www.free-hoster.cc/users/aboyosef/
http://ansarnet.bluedomino.com/
http://irhaby007.ca/
http://alirhabyoon.net/
http://www.irhab.cnchost.com/
http://jehadelkoffar.100free.com/
http://www.egysite.com/ansary/
http://www.needshab.5gigs.com/news/
http://aboyosef.100free.com/
http://freelogs.com/stats/a/aboyosef911/
http://www.jeeran.com/.../username=kji911&GBID=182515

 

[Constitution Day]

Breaking:NSA Cold Busted On Free Republic!

[rit]

irhaby007.ca

Registrant:    stuart taylor
First Registered:    June 26, 2005
Last Updated:    June 26, 2005
Administrative Contact:
    Stuart Taylor (stuart_taylor2005@yahoo.com)
    Stuart Taylor
    30 Beck View
    Starston Norkolf IP209NN United Kingdom
    Phone: +44.1379855267
Technical Contact:
    Stuart Taylor (stuart_taylor2005@yahoo.com)
    Stuart Taylor
    30 Beck View
    Starston Norkolf IP209NN United Kingdom
    Phone: +44.1379855267
Name Servers:
    ns1.myhostcenter.com 	  	
    ns2.myhostcenter.com 	  	
Information Source:
    Canadian Internet Registration Authority

[Avenger]

"Also, you might enjoy the company of hairy, Saudi men in you cell. Get used to wearing a toilet paper "hijab" though."

Actually, I was more looking forward to the female interragators "torturing" me by putting panties on my head and taunting me by rubbing their breasts against me. Heck, I'd almost pay for that! ;-)

[md2576]

My dad was investigated by IRS after posting a tax thread.

[rit]

ALIRHABYOON.NET

   Domain Name: ALIRHABYOON.NET
   Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
   Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
   Referral URL: http://domainhelp.tucows.com
   Name Server: NS2.POWWEB.COM
   Name Server: NS3.POWWEB.COM
   Status: ACTIVE
   Updated Date: 25-jun-2005
   Creation Date: 25-jun-2005
   Expiration Date: 25-jun-2006

[Fury]

My dad was investigated by IRS after posting a tax thread.

On FR?

[foolscap]

I don't think you can get a warrant to block a website

They must be able to because the government can shut down child pron sites. Since I really do not know able the sites listed it is hard to say what they were shut down for. If the sites were used by terrorists to communicate with each other or to recruit new members it seems the government can and should shut them down. If they are just factual sites about terrorists then it might be a problem with censorship. That is a really fine line.

[Leatherneck_MT]

Privacy on the internet does not exist. If you want privacy, chuck your computer out the front door and move to the Mountains of Montana.

There's still plenty of wilderness to get lost in.

[rit]

Not saying it is fake, just showing the domain name registration info as an fyi.

[md2576]

Yup.

[md2576]

AH ty.

[Fury]

Geesh! That's the first I have heard of that. Did things work out OK? What did your father say?

[md2576]

Well, let's say it didn't go well and now he watches what he posts now-a-days.

[z3n]

"Maybe I'm making too much of a small matter. What do you think? Also, I hope I'm not banned for posting those links because I do not promote them. I only wanted to use them as research. I guess I'll see what the censors say."

Well, we've never been a truely "free" society anyway, no matter what the declaration of independence says. Some people equate pure freedom with pure anarchy.

Personally, it makes my heart all warm and fuzzy to know that my government has some vigilant and dedicated people working to make sure that 9/11 never happens again. I hope to god they never get as soft and lax as they were before 9/11.

Being someone whose philosophies are somewhat libertarian, it might suprise you to learn that I feel that our intelligence community needs a certain level of latitude when protecting our freedoms. Sure, I guess things get a little fuzzy when protecting your freedoms means infringing on them (privacy, unfettered access, etc).

Let me put it this way, if some branch of our intelligence community suspected that my neighbor was a part of a terrorist cell, even if just a recruiter or something like that, I would feel better knowing that people were snooping around my place than I would if no one ever investigated a thing. Frankly, I wouldn't want anyone thinking I was a part of it anyway. I say, investigate til your a$$ falls off.

[chgomac]

Could it be that the CIA doesn't have the budget, manpower or technology to instantly check out every hit on every questionable website so they do the next best thing by capturing user IDs for future checking and then blocking the usage to that website?

IMHO, the CIA and FBI are not perfect, yet that's what many expect to be.

[Avenger]

"My dad was investigated by IRS after posting a tax thread."

My Dad was investigated by the IRS after he screwed up on his taxes. I suspect there is a correlation between posting on a tax thread and being investigated by the IRS, but the relationship is not necessarily casual.

[SittinYonder]

though what "acceptable" means may vary widely from person to person.

Exactly. "Rational" may also vary widely from person to person.

[Beth528]

I find it even more amazing that you try to spin what I meant here..I am an American I love my country and my president and I do not believe for one minute that I am trading my liberty for security.. I will go with the liberties we have here any day rather than the liberties other countries have.I have nothing to hide..If there is any chance in the world that our government can catch these animals the I am all for it..

[JustDoItAlways]

We've seen over the past month the power of data mining in stopping these Jihadists (aka Able Danger.)

So now the CIA has woken up a bit more after realizing that a serious effort, like in Able Danger, could grab up these terrorists before they do something.

I think its great that they are logging attempts to get into Jihadists websites. The NSA has been monitoring all communications worldwide for decades now anyway.

[SittinYonder]

Logging hits at a website is different from hijacking a website, IMO. If they want to data mine, go for it, as far as I'm concerned. If there's good reason (ie. messages to jihadis on the website) to shut down a website then I alter my opinion, but if they're shutting it down or hijacking it without cause and without a warrant or some other form of judicial review, that bothers me.