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1 posted on 10/04/2005 10:37:26 AM PDT by traumer
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"Rene Perezgarcia, 22; Mario Lopez Luis, 19; Herman Sanchez Salas, 28; Ovidio Lopez Funez, 19; Napoleon Perez Lopez, 29; Edwin Albaladego Rivera, 28; Ermitanio Lopez Salas, 18; Israel Santiago, 56; Rolando Perez Claudio, 23; Alvarado Perez Luis, 21; Augusto Perez Lopez, 32; Cesar Perez Lopez, 29; Gabino Garcia Godinez, 24; and Augusto Garcia Velasquez, 30...."

Hey - I said no profiling... !


2 posted on 10/04/2005 10:38:42 AM PDT by traumer
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I would have no problem with this being treated like a capital crime.


3 posted on 10/04/2005 10:38:54 AM PDT by gondramB ( The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates. – Tacitus)
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Just committing the rapes that Americans won't commit.


4 posted on 10/04/2005 10:39:27 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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5 posted on 10/04/2005 10:40:24 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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ping!


6 posted on 10/04/2005 10:40:58 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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"Telemundo, television for creating perverts"


9 posted on 10/04/2005 10:42:22 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo ("When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!")
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The article states that their immigration status is unknown but I bet they're illegals.
Unless its someone I know (like a friend, neighbor, family, or the mailman) I NEVER go to the front door without a pistol in my hand. Most times if I don't know the person I don't even bother to answer the door.


11 posted on 10/04/2005 10:44:27 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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I hope they can get enough forensic evidence to indict these people or once the liberal crybabies get involved they will walk free.


14 posted on 10/04/2005 10:48:03 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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Get a rope!


15 posted on 10/04/2005 10:48:27 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terrorists-beyond your expectations!)
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Wonder what their immigration status is? Not that it matters. As long as they work for minimum wage or for less than the true American man, they are allowed to do whatever they want as far as the law is concerned. If they are legal, then try and convict them. If they are illegals, try, convict, serve time, then give 'em a one way bus ticket back to the whole they crawled out of.



16 posted on 10/04/2005 10:48:46 AM PDT by WasDougsLamb (Just my opinion.Go easy on me........)
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>> When she opened the door,

I’m surprised anyone still opens their door without knowing who is out there.


>> There was no word on their immigration status


I’m betting 14 of them are illegal.


18 posted on 10/04/2005 10:49:20 AM PDT by InsensitiveConservative
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Upon conviction, Hang them then deport them.


26 posted on 10/04/2005 10:54:17 AM PDT by Horatio Gates (The pen is mightier than the sword...when it's stuck in the skull of the dude with the sword)
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Although this is tragic (if true) I would suggest 18 year old women not open the door at 2AM on Saturday night to strangers.


27 posted on 10/04/2005 10:54:25 AM PDT by SF Republican
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"The men arrested and charged are: Rene Perezgarcia, 22; Mario Lopez Luis, 19; Herman Sanchez Salas, 28; Ovidio Lopez Funez, 19; Napoleon Perez Lopez, 29; Edwin Albaladego Rivera, 28; Ermitanio Lopez Salas, 18; Israel Santiago, 56; Rolando Perez Claudio, 23; Alvarado Perez Luis, 21; Augusto Perez Lopez, 32; Cesar Perez Lopez, 29; Gabino Garcia Godinez, 24; and Augusto Garcia Velasquez, 30."

"They each are charged with sexual battery, a first-degree felony, and kidnapping/false imprisonment, according to sheriff's reports."

"Each of the men told deputies they reside at the trailer, except for Perezgarcia, who said he lives nearby. All of the men told deputies they are field laborers. There was no word on their immigration status.

Want to bet that at least half are illegals. Death Penalty, please.

31 posted on 10/04/2005 10:57:43 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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When predators feel they have nothing to fear...they are emboldend...

We have sent them a message...they can come and go as they
please and they have nothing to fear from American men protecting or avenging their women folk...

imo


40 posted on 10/04/2005 11:00:22 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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Deport them to the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.


43 posted on 10/04/2005 11:00:56 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!)
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Open the borders wider...let more in...hire them in NO...
give them cash cards....they don't even need ID...just claim
it was lost en el torementa grande.


48 posted on 10/04/2005 11:05:15 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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One slap on the wrist because illegals right to privacy trumps citizens right to know. See FR article posted on Oct 1.

Federal judge says illegal aliens’ privacy trumps public’s right to know

By Mark Tapscott

Oct 1, 2005

Manager of Media Programs, Center for Media and Public Policy, The Heritage Foundation

A federal District Court Judge has ruled that the privacy rights of illegal aliens convicted of heinous crimes in this country are more important than the public’s right to know if the government is properly enforcing a key immigration law.

Amazing as the ruling itself may be, what is even more stunning is the fact that U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia Judge Richard J. Leon was affirming the Bush administration’s position in the case. President Bush nominated Leon in 2001 and the Senate confirmed him in February 2002.

Leon’s Sept. 27 ruling was in response to an appeal by Cox Newspapers Washington Bureau of the Justice Department’s refusal to make public information and data about thousands of aliens convicted of serious crimes in virtually every state.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials are required by federal law to escort these criminals out of the country as soon as they are released from jail, but a 2002 investigation by Cox found hundreds who were released from Georgia jails but not deported.

Despite having been convicted of crimes like murder, rape and armed robbery, the aliens who served time in Georgia jails were simply let go, free to roam the country and possibly commit more crimes.

Cox reporters Eliot Jaspin and Julia Malone knew the federal government reimburses local and state governments for much of their expenses in jailing convicted illegal aliens, so the journalists filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the Justice Department, seeking names and other information about the released criminals. Justice refused, claiming release would violate the convicted aliens’ privacy rights.

Cox appealed in 2003 because Jaspin and Malone believed, based on what they found in Georgia and the amount of money spent every year by Washington reimbursing lower level governments, that there could easily be thousands of cases across the country like that of convicted pedophile Miguel Angel Gordoba, who served a four-year sentence for molesting a 2-year-old girl in Alma, Ga., then disappeared following his release.

There are also concerns that there could be sleeper-cell terrorists among those released who came here in recent years and were subsequently convicted of crimes as they awaited orders to carry out their deadly plans.

Cox argued in its appeal, according to Judge Leon, that disclosure of the information would “… help determine whether governmental agencies are effectively communicating with each other in the management of the incarceration and removal of criminal aliens," and that "the public benefit of government oversight in this instance outweighs the privacy interests …” of the convicted aliens.

Leon's response? "I disagree." He held that “these privacy interests, and the privacy intrusion associated with disclosing this information clearly outweighs the public disclosure of this information."

Leon further argued that that criminal aliens have "a substantial personal privacy interest" in their FBI case numbers and that interest also outweighs the public's interest in being able to assess the performance of government officials required by the law to meet criminal aliens when released from jail to escort them out of the country.

This decision defies logic and common sense. How can somebody who is not even a U.S. citizen have rights that outweigh the most fundamental right of every American to know if the government is enforcing the law properly? Criminal records are public documents in every state. Many states publish the names and addresses of sex offenders. But facts about murderers, rapists and thieves who aren’t citizens can’t be published?

As unbelievable as Leon’s decision is – and I pray he is reversed on appeal - it would never have been delivered if the Justice Department had not given Cox so much unnecessary difficulty on its FOIA request in the first place.

Unfortunately, this case is too typical of the experience journalists too often have in seeking official documents, data and other government records that ought to be available under the FOIA. Virtually all of the approximately 3-4 million FOIAs sent to the government every year are handled only by career bureaucrats, not by political appointees of elected officials like Bush.

So nobody should be surprised that career bureaucrats at the Justice Department aren’t eager to release documents that will embarrass career bureaucrats in the immigration agency who failed to escort those criminal aliens out of our country.


53 posted on 10/04/2005 11:10:24 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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55 posted on 10/04/2005 11:10:38 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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56 posted on 10/04/2005 11:11:42 AM PDT by gubamyster
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